Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Some dude posted this just to get clown for his :politisperg:. Had he posted about just how fucking ugly some of these designs are, he likely would've opened a door and moved the window for people.

However, he didn't, so he just looks like a retard, even to people who might laugh at the funny captions.
The image still suckass.
The protagonist design still have subtle changes like the chest area they just fucking suckass now but there still difference.
Fucking safe horny who fucking coined that for pokemon designs of all things they don't make any design outright horny or even marketed them as horny at all they still market it towards children also that's a hiker npc not a swimmer npc.
Penny is outright female it just anime not woke shit.
Weightress is funny but there already fat female characters in pokemon like https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Baker_(Trainer_class).
That's not a hijab that's a hoodie.
Old lady.
Even older lady not a fucking troon.
There not black or even asian to begin with there from paldea there called paldean (also if there from other region they will be called like kantonian , kalosian, etc).
Again paldean they don't called them black , white , asian or other shit they just called them on what region they came from.
 
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Lord help me, I'm actually going to watch that Mageknight White playthru. My curiosity got the best of me, I have to see how autistic this is going to be.
It's so much better when you remember that he's voicing both characters(poorly), if the plot twist in the final episode is that Hilda goes full schizo and gets admitted into an asylum, babbling about the voice in her head, I will commend this sperg.
 
The image still suckass.
The protagonist design still have subtle changes like the chest area they just fucking suckass now but there still difference.
Fucking safe horny who fucking coined that for pokemon designs of all things they don't make any design outright horny or even marketed them as horny at all they still market it towards children also that's a hiker npc not a swimmer npc.
Penny is outright female it just anime not woke shit.
Weightress is funny but there already fat female characters in pokemon like https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Baker_(Trainer_class).
That's not a hijab that's a hoodie.
Old lady.
Even older lady not a fucking troon.
There not black or even asian to begin with there from paldea there called paldean (also if there from other region they will be called like kantonian , kalosian, etc).
Again paldean they don't called them black , white , asian or other shit they just called them on what region they came from.
I'd like you to define "woke" and what you feel is the tipping point between bad character types and fully going over the ledge into insanity.
Giving you perspective might be preferable.
 
So, I'm ready to do my write up about Pokemon Gale of Darkness ROMhack known as Pokemon XG: NeXt Gen. First of all, here are a few posts to refer to while reading this one:
An addendum since I completed Mt. Battle:

*Game has a post game quest hidden behind doing at least one round of Orre Colosseum. In Gale of Darkness, that quest gave you a Lucky Egg, here it gives you TM21: Zen Headbutt. I needed it for my Metang, who was still running Psychic at the time.
*Battles here use 6 Pokemon rather than 4 and you can set the format to be Singles or Doubles(Doubles only in Gale of Darkness, no difference to Pokemon sets you just select which format you like)
*Teams seem to be based off which Pokemon the NPCs had in Single Player, which are all changed compared to Gale of Darkness. Other than that, the AI is smarter than in the base game and uses the Stadium/Battle Spot/Battle Tower ruleset with no usable items like Potions, just like in Gale of Darkness

I didn't actually complete even one full set of Orre Colosseum as my Pokemon aren't evenly leveled, and the closest I had to being all the same level(the game doesn't auto level you like in later gens) had an unfortunate lack of effectiveness and synergy against the trainers I had to fight.
It's clear that this is going to take some time and I will need a proper team to tackle a competitive facility, so I am leaving this part of the game for later. Thankfully, I didn't need TM21 as I found something else:

*Mt. Battle is a bit different here than it is in Grand Colosseum: In that game, the first 6 Areas were pure EV training grounds, where the enemy Pokemon could not attack. This would also net you a ton of EXP at the cost of not earning any money. The last 3 areas were the toughest fights in the game, including Legendary Pokemon.
*In XG, Areas 1-9 are pseudo Gyms: Every 5 trainers have the same type specialization, with the final one having a full set of 6 Pokemon like a Gym Leader would(10 trainers per Area means two full type "Gyms" per Area). This goes on until Area 10, which has the toughest 10 battles in the game with Legendary Pokemon. EV training in XG is fulfilled in Pyrite City's Duel Square, while in Grand Colosseum the Colosseum challenges themselves act as "Gyms" with specialized typing, with later Colosseums having two type trainers.
*While Pokemon in XG Mt. Battle always fight back, they start out really weak at Lv 20, with every Area increasing the number by 5(Up to 60 in Area 9 and jumping to Lv 70 in Area 10). This means that this is a viable training ground since the early portions of the game, especially since...
*...Mt. Battle has a Move Relearner that teaches any move that a Pokemon can learn, including ones that it is not leveled enough to know yet(like in later games). I didn't know about this as this NPC only teaches Mew moves exclusively in Gale of Darkness. This is a very useful utility that you will want as soon as you can, and I did indeed teach Metang a different Physical Psychic move(Psycho Cut) over Zen Headbutt via TM. This is why I decided to abandon Orre Colosseum until I can get a more professional team together.

Move Relearner only uses the unique currency Mt. Battle has(basically this game's BP), but he takes so little of it per move that once you get thru the first 10 trainers(one Area) then you're set for the entire game. This is why you should not do what I did and ignore Mt. Battle until the end, it should be an integral part of your playthru if you play along.
Speaking of which, I completed the first run of Mt. battle 100 battle challenge in one sitting and with one team of Pokemon, which nets me one of the three Mythical Pokemon(Mew/Celebi/Jiraichi). The enemy teams remain static, unlike in Battle Tower where they are randomized, so I have to do this 2 more times, with two different teams of Pokemon to give them unique Ribbons, in order to "finish" the game completely(minus Orre Colosseum that I am saving for later).
In case anyone is curious, the run took me 9 hours with breaks(but the game was on the whole time), and I was able to get past even the last Area filled with Legendary Pokemon without a single loss, with most of my Pokemon being slightly underlevelled. That team was: Sharpedo, Lanturn, Cloyster, Mr. Mime, Arcanine and Metang(see my .txt document in the first post for more info) if you're curious about what kind of team building is required. As you can see you don't need a Smogon team of supermen here, altho I should add I did sweat a little during the last few battles. I used far fewer healing items than I was planning to(which you should pack just in case, obviously), but your mileage may vary depending on which team you bring in.

And with that I am actually (almost) done with the game. I have to repeat the challenge twice more technically, which will take at least 18 more hours(plus grinding) but since the trainers won't change there it will be less eventful than it was now, almost an excuse to play the GC era games a little bit longer before I jump to the GBA era titles. I hope my posts were able to properly summarize my experience and help (You) decide if this is a ROMhack that's worth your time. If you're going to take anything from this post specifically, it's that you shouldn't be a dumbass like me and ignore Mt. Battle until the end, trust me. Would have saved a whole lot of trouble if I knew I could teach Metang a Physical STAB Psychic move half a game ago.

Edit: I can still make changes to this post, for whatever reason, so I'm going to include a screenshot I forgot to attach when I was going thru the Mt. Battle challenge. This was pretty cute when it happened.
XG Mirror Match.png
 
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I'd like you to define "woke" and what you feel is the tipping point between bad character types and fully going over the ledge into insanity.
Giving you perspective might be preferable.
I defines "woke" as doing shit like "the first openly gay trans black non-binary character of the series" and it's the most retarded and most stereotypical shit ever made by a "open-minded woke person" and also villainized anybody who think this shit is stupid as fuck. That's one of my points of what "woke" is.
 
I am really honestly annoyed at the trans people for taking the classic genius super hacker in charge of a gang is in actuallity the most cute and girly person ever trope and insisting that must mean they are non binary. For some reason. Despite the fact them being binary and very much a girl is the point

Heck if anything Penny should be nothing but binary. Because she is hacker..,

Thank god Pokemon lacks voices. You know the obvious male filter that should be applied when using her hacker persona would make things 1000 times worse.
 
I defines "woke" as doing shit like "the first openly gay trans black non-binary character of the series" and it's the most retarded and most stereotypical shit ever made by a "open-minded woke person" and also villainized anybody who think this shit is stupid as fuck. That's one of my points of what "woke" is.
So there's no in between period of adopting these trends incrementally? Its either 0 or 100?
 
So there's no in between period of adopting these trends incrementally? Its either 0 or 100?
I’d say yes. Otherwise you’ll just look at anything diverse as woke.
Which is how you get all the screaming by people if stuff so much as has a female in it.

And considering Pokemon is translated into English, it’s source material is unlikely to ever turn woke.

There’s not going to be a gradual change it’s just going to be forced and only on one side.
 
And considering Pokemon is translated into English, it’s source material is unlikely to ever turn woke.

There’s not going to be a gradual change it’s just going to be forced and only on one side.
Correct, which is why SV is woke at it's core(and broke, too). Now Nintendo is hiring DEI consultants for Pokemon and we have ugly models for everybody. Japanese hate it, but the devs don't care because it will sell on the name lone. This is just what the franchise is now.
I don't know why this is a huge revelation to some people, Gen 8 was a disaster. They even had niggers in what was supposed to be Ancient Japanese setting, like they're pushing with other games like this now. Sword/Shield was nigger central and so was Gen 7, but nobody cared about that since the region was based of Hawaii. XY, on the other hand, was arguably even worse than Sword/Shield and that released 10 years ago, how ORAS came out unmolested is beyond me(oh yeah the Gen 4 remake added in niggers and censored some lines too, but that game was so shit that I barely even remember it).
Ugly models and troons are just the cherry on top, now you're not going to be called a waaaacist for calling this stuff out because it effects everybody's experience.

I am really honestly annoyed at the trans people for taking the classic genius super hacker in charge of a gang is in actuallity the most cute and girly person ever trope and insisting that must mean they are non binary. For some reason. Despite the fact them being binary and very much a girl is the point

Heck if anything Penny should be nothing but binary. Because she is hacker..,

Thank god Pokemon lacks voices. You know the obvious male filter that should be applied when using her hacker persona would make things 1000 times worse.
What in the hell are you even talking about? I haven't heard anyone calling Penny a troon, altho I have heard plenty of people calling that entire plotline falling flat and gameplay being shit. Because it is, Team Star is the sorriest excuse for an evil team I have ever seen and the plot twist that "they're not actually bad!" is like the third time in the row Gamefreak used it, if you count Team Skull. The idea of an entire group of "bullied, exiled" students is retarded too, not only would this paint the school as a horrific place to go to but it doesn't even make any sense, why not simply quit at that point? Gamefreak tried too hard to come up with something that would shock the players and only managed to create the worst part of what is already a shit game with almost no redeemable parts. Even their music and "boss fights" suck, the game would have been better off cutting out that entire portion, Penny included, completely and focusing on basic bug polishing instead.
 
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I was refering to the image I quoted with Penny as they/them and commenting how I’ve seen a lot of the community try to spin her as non binary or trans and I hate it.

As for why no one cared earlier. Probably because it’s a Pokemon game and people don’t care if it’s 100% accurate to the real world and the games weren’t so obviously broke. Like people don’t care how woke something is till the games become noticeably unplayable for entirely unrelated reasons.
 
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Like people don’t care how woke something is till the games become noticeably unplayable for entirely unrelated reasons.
Correct, this is why Sword/Shield did not get nearly as much pushback as Scarlet/Violet despite the two being almost as bad. Don't forget, Sword/Shield were the ones to introduce not only Dexit but also paid DLC, and yet most fans didn't care that much. I'm not going to even mention how BLACKED that region was for no reason, which it was(altho that did lead to a pretty funny controversy with Nessa that still gets /vp/ upset to this day).
Funny how much you can get away with if you simply make the characters pretty, that way instead of complaining the fans can make art/porn all season long and engage with the big money machine that is the Pokemon merch empire(that's on top of the money they skim off the games). What kind of fanart can you make in a game where half the NPCs are either non-white, ugly or troons? Hell the main characters are exactly the same with some minor differences since gender doesn't exist anymore(never mind that it quite literally does in Pokemon themselves, making this pandering moot). Remember Dawn/Lucas? May/Brendan? Pretty much every protagonist even up to Gen 8 was visually distinct and instantly recognizable, we can't even have that anymore. Of course, I'm not even getting into the technical problems Scarlet/Violet have that even normalfags can't ignore, we would be here all day.
If you've already forgotten how bad Sword/Shield was even outside it's controversies, here is a 4 hour refresher(that could go on even longer since he didn't cover the cashgrab DLC outside a quick glance). This is how most actual fans reacted to the game, but were drowned out by the sea of retards, shills and coomers.
 
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Don't forget, Sword/Shield were the ones to introduce not only Dexit but also paid DLC, and yet most fans didn't care that much.
I mean most people play with new mons and 3rd games were for all intense and purpose DLC. It makes sense why most people did not care, not even the majority of Pokemon fans. Problem with the DLC is unlike 3rd Games it did not fix the bugs or make it broken in a way that people found actually fun. It did nothing.
I'm not going to even mention how BLACKED that region was for no reason,
It’s the UK. It being blacked was not the issue. Issue is it was the wrong type of black people.

But doing the UK right would have required the ‘evil team’ to have been involved with heavy gang violence. If there was one game where you bring back having two teams like in RSE it was SwSh
which it was(altho that did lead to a pretty funny controversy with Nessa that still gets /vp/ upset to this day).
Indeed lol
Funny how much you can get away with if you simply make the characters pretty, that way instead of complaining the fans can make art/porn all season long and engage with the big money machine that is the Pokemon merch empire(that's on top of the money they skim off the games).
I blame Gardevoir.
What kind of fanart can you make in a game where half the NPCs are either non-white, ugly or troons?
Enough. And it’s horrifying. The R34 remains strong.
Of course, I'm not even getting into the technical problems Scarlet/Violet have that even normalfags can't ignore, we would be here all day.
Most of those issues would vanish if the Switch was allowed to overclock which is amusing.
 
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I mean most people play with new mons and 3rd games were for all intense and purpose DLC. It makes sense why most people did not care, not even the majority of Pokemon fans. Problem with the DLC is unlike 3rd Games it did not fix the bugs or make it broken in a way that people found actually fun. It did nothing.
Third versions offered genuine new content that made it a worthy purchase for hardcore fans even if they owned the originals. It is very clear that DLC for both games is quite literally just post game content cut out at the last minute to be sold for extra 70$, not third version equivalent. Just look how pathetic the post game for both is. DLC simply does not belong in a Pokemon game, it's bad enough that many Mons are locked behind buying another game or trading with another person, not even getting into the rabbithole of getting legendary or event Pokemon legit way. That's plenty enough time, resources and in some cases money, to balance that out. Everything the game has to offer should be there on day one and be free(minus seasonal events or what have you).

But doing the UK right would have required the ‘evil team’ to have been involved with heavy gang violence. If there was one game where you bring back having two teams like in RSE it was SwSh
Funny thing is that Team Yell was probably one of the best things about the game. Their music is badass, I like how they look, and they do that thing that Team Skull did where they're goofy and not all that intimidating despite being an actual gang. I don't mind them, altho you could also easily take them out of the game entirely and not lose out on much. Scarlet/Violet would greatly benefit from simply scrapping Team Star and focusing on whatever the hell the main theme of that game was.
 
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Third versions offered genuine new content that made it a worthy purchase for hardcore fans even if they owned the originals. It is very clear that DLC for both games is quite literally just post game content cut out at the last minute to be sold for extra 70$, not third version equivalent.
I’d argue they are exactly the same. Cost the same, have the same amount of content, takes just as long to release and makes thr base game feel incomplete without it.
or event Pokemon legit way.
Honestly they should just go ‘you can get them early by limited time event but when game shuts down we will update it so you can get them whenever’ best of both worlds.
That's plenty enough time, resources and in some cases money,
Especially now since the anime releases after the game and is largly disconnected to the plot of the game itself. They could totally spend the 3 year cycle making 2 games that are just complete.
 
I’d argue they are exactly the same. Cost the same, have the same amount of content, takes just as long to release and makes thr base game feel incomplete without it.
That's where you're wrong. First of all, the third versions offer the original game in it's entirety again, and there is little changes and fixes all around. Even something as simple as changing the trainer sets and what wild Pokemon you encounter make the game worth playing again. Then, there is all the extra content that either wasn't in the original or was there in a very limited form, sometimes including brand new gameplay elements or areas. Third, the story is usually different, and the Legendary Pokemon that was merely an extra encounter gets the spotlight this time around, usually with an improved dungeon and extra sequences. Next, there is massive improvements to battling facilities, Battle Frontier in Gen 3 and 4 for example as well as introduction of Battle Tower in Crystal. Lastly, visuals and performance is usually better in third versions compared to the initial titles, don't make me laugh by telling me that DLC improved the base game in Sw/Sh or S/V any.

DLC for Sw/Sh and S/V are clearly just post game episodes that were cut out, with added quality of life features to give incentive for suckers(by cutting them out of the base game). Just look at the poor excuses for base game post game content in both games with DLC, S/V doesn't even have Battle Tower anymore. People get blindsided by the new Pokemon and stories, but forget they quite literally got all that for free in previous games, even without the third versions(that simply made the post game even flashier or fleshed it out). Imagine if Episode Delta in ORAS or the Looker post game in XY was paid content, or hell the entire Ultra Beast plotline in all versions of Sun/Moon. This is exactly what we're looking at. Don't even get me started on introducing back Pokemon they cut out for no reason to shill the DLC even more, classic "create a problem to sell the solution". Even brand new Legendary Pokemon were not paywalled behind anything, you just needed to be there for an event that anyone could attend, now you need to pay up to get some of these Pokemon.

DLC format simply doesn't work because we already had an alternative that was better for delivering more content and polishing up what was there. Just like Dexit, this is a pure scam that aims to give Gamefreak more shekels at the cost of making everyone's experience worse. I assume they will continue to push the envelope to see just how much money they can charge out of the cattle while putting in as little effort as possible. Just look at Call of Duty, and how they went from having little 2$ personalization packs where you got gunsights and camos for every gun, to bloated 30$ Battle Passes and individual gun skins for one single gun that cost as much as 30-35$ each, on top of demanding 70$ up front for the game itself. This is the destiny of Pokemon at this rate, there is nearly an unlimited amount of ways to monetize the franchise, the only question is "will they let us get away with it?" We didn't have this problem with third versions, you got a brand new game and that was that.
 
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@30+GameOvers

3rd Games suffer the exact same issue you are saying DLC has. Cut contebt that should have been in the base game with qol to make you not think it was held back.

The only benefit to 3rd games offering you the whole game again was until the Switch, if you wanted more than one save you had to get a new game. Thanks to accounts you don’t have to do that any more.

Both DLCs also change the Pokemon you can meet and when. And are all focused on legendaries.

DLC has done exactly what 3rd games do.

The problem honestly was the games weren’t great to begin with. You can’t polish games that were fundamentaly broke.

Which is likely why we have Z as a Legends game where they csn just remake the entire game from scratch.
 
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3rd Games suffer the exact same issue you are saying DLC has. Cut contebt that should have been in the base game with qol to make you not think it was held back.

The only benefit to 3rd games offering you the whole game again was until the Switch, if you wanted more than one save you had to get a new game. Thanks to accounts you don’t have to do that any more.

Both DLCs also change the Pokemon you can meet and when. And are all focused on legendaries.

DLC has done exactly what 3rd games do.

The problem honestly was the games weren’t great to begin with. You can’t polish games that were fundamentaly broke.

Which is likely why we have Z as a Legends game where they csn just remake the entire game from scratch.
3rd games have a unique purpose: It's a new game. Pokemon has one savefile, you see, so many people will buy one game to bank their pokemon(extra storage space + transfer between two games with two consoles), one for serious play/campaign, and one for competitive. If you like playing Nuzlocke, you will want to buy an additional copy of the game which you can restart at any time(while banking your old Pokemon). That, combined with the third versions actually being a worthwhile enough purchase on it's own to warrant an entirely new playthru, means that they are not only justified in their existence but they also offer potentially hundreds of hours of extra gametime, just like any other Pokemon title. DLC adds maybe a few hours, at best, and you still need to buy another title to "start a new game" anyways unless you want to delete that savefile, plus any new game will jew you out of another 70$ for both DLC packs. Remember, this is for each copy of the game, if you buy both editions that will net you 140$ for DLCs alone. All for content worth several hours at best and that used to be bundled with every copy of every game for free, you're not getting a brand new title with extra features and a new story like you would with Crystal, Emerald, Platinum or Ultra Games. Even Yellow edition back in the day was a more worthwhile purchase than these scummy DLCs since you still got a new game out of it, despite being a glorified anime show ROMhack.

There is no excuse to give these games DLC on top of already expecting you to pay for Home and other versions of the game, same as there is absolutely no excuse for Dexit. It's all cope. Pokemon fans have to be even dumber than the nigger cattle defending SBMM and 35$ Microtransactions in COD if they really think this is a worthy replacement for Third versions.
 
So there's no in between period of adopting these trends incrementally? Its either 0 or 100?
"Nudging" is a thing they try to passively (and subconsciously) insert subjects that might be considered normal if they could be considered to abnormal.

We're at a stage, however, where any character with any simultaneous pink and blue accents starts creating lines in the sand. That's how it is with games now, and I'm honestly glad that trailers still exist. They are the only way people can air their grievances at the earliest in the game's cycle whenever they see some bullshit.
 
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I finished an FR/LG livingdex a couple of years ago, and I've been wanting to do one for Hoenn using Emerald, but I cannot get myself to follow through
 
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Team Star is the sorriest excuse for an evil team I have ever seen and the plot twist that "they're not actually bad!" is like the third time in the row Gamefreak used it, if you count Team Skull.
Team Skull was more a group of useful idiots for the Aether Foundation than villains, and in that regard they did pretty well in vanilla SM.
Funny thing is that Team Yell was probably one of the best things about the game.
SwSh did suffer from having a piss-poor villain setup. With tweaking the retarded twins with the fucked up hair could have led a team of their own trying to bring Galarian under their dominion, but they had to stick with a retard panicking about no energy in 1000 years.
 
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