What makes destiny hateable is not his lukewarm establishment takes, which aren't notable, but rather his personality.
That dude will also double down on defending his centrist takes to the point he makes ridiculous statements, but again that's mostly a personality problem.
I want to clarify I do not like Destiny, I was just saying that Hasan and his fans paranoia about Destiny is so laughable. Hasan having to come up with inane reasoning to justify his anger at Destiny's bland politics is asinine. Hasan coined the phrase "debate perverts" to describe Destiny and his fans. What does that even mean ? What is a debate pervert ? What does debating have to do with being a pervert ? The answer is nothing it's just a transparently insane attempt by Hasan to shut down the notion of debate because Hasan knows that his ideas are incoherent and have a lot of holes in them. Yes Destiny is not that smart, but Hasan is so retarded that Destiny looks like a genius by comparison.
I have talked about this before that Hasan's ideology makes no sense and it's obvious that he just buys into grand narratives. I used the example of how in his debate with Ethan Klein he never outlined even in the vaguest sense what his vision for socialism looks like. He rattled off the benefits of economic democracy, worker ownership and central planning, but these ideas have contradictions. A fully planned economy could never work in a system where the people's vote has a lot of sway ( something Hasan supports given his criticism of things like America's electoral college). Let's say that the supreme leader of the gay niggers people's republic gets elected. He wants to build nuclear power plants. So he allocates a bunch of funds,starts building and buys a bunch of uranium. Then shaqonda jakson the biggest streamer in the GNPR says that nuclear power is racist because Pierre Curie stared at an Asian woman for 3 seconds and this reflects White supremacy. So now the opposition to the current premier runs of a platform of being anti nuclear power and wins. All the money the last government put into the nuclear plants now was wasted. To highlight how worker ownership and central planning contradict each other. If the central government was to cap the price of a life saving medicine, but the worker coop that makes the medicine doesn't want to sell it that low. Who wins out ? Should the workers not have full sovereignty to be paid in a way they see as fair ?
If it sounds like I was running cover for Destiny I wasn't. I just think Hasan is a bigger problem. Destiny is not very popular and he is even banned on Twitch and where most zoomers congregate. Hasan by contras is a mainstream celebrity with a following well in the millions. If you want to ignore Destiny or Destiny influence you can, Hasan fans by virtue of their numbers have influence.
I have a bit of a conspiracy about Hasan. I think it's very likely that Hasan was the reason cloudflare dropped this website. I know that sounds stupid but please hear me out.
Hasan said
This on September 1st 2022
( small edit this vod was uploaded on September 1st, he might have said this on the previous day august 31st as the
football match on his twitter trending bar happened on August 31st and the
California heatwave article also on the sidebar was also published on the 31st. To be fair these 2 things could have stayed on the trending bar the next day but still if he did say this on the 31st one day earlier then that changes nothing as the timeline is still believable)
You want to know when Cloudflare dropped this site ?
September 3rd 2022
Maybe it happened a little earlier and I am not aware but as far as I can tell September 3rd 2022 is when cloudflare officially dropped this forum.
Cloudflare's decision to block the site was done without any discussion. The message I've received is a vague suspension notice. The message from Matthew Prince is unclear. If there is any threat to life on the site, I have received no communication from any law enforcement.
It is early morning hours here. I am going to repair the Tor URL tonight before going back to bed. My thoughts will be articulated better in the morning.
This message From the officially Kiwifarms Telegram channel on September 3rd. Again if I am wrong about the date please correct me.
Also while searching for this message I found these messages from the official Nick Fuentes'telegram channel
Really good to see Cloudflare’s response to the pressure campaign against Kiwifarms. I just wish they would reinstate Andrew Anglin then if they finally had this epiphany about deplatforming.
Obviously not a fan of KF or Josh Moon by any stretch but if Cloudflare starts deplatforming then it's over for everybody.
Ultimately, AF is the only viable movement that opposes deplatforming and the kind of insanity coming from Keffals. There's a lesson in this.
You want to know when these were posted ? September 1st 2022. These post clearly imply that this forum hasn't been dropped yet. So even if it wasn't the 3rd exactly it had to be on the 2nd.
I know this sounds asinine and I am not claiming this as solid fact, however Hasan is in with Twitch, he is invited to Twitch con he knows all the big streamers and knows a bunch of people at the company. This probably extends to all of Amazon Twitch's owner. We all know silicone valley is very incestuous. Is it really that hard to believe that Hasan talked to someone he knows that works at Twitch who knows people that work at cloudflare and could be the reason this forum got shut down ? Remember how initially it felt like the dropkiwifarms campaign would blow over ? To repeat once again Hasan is a mainstream celebrity at this point. People talk about him in the same conversation as fringe political people like Destiny,Vaush,Nick Fuentes and the Serfs when he is orders of magnitude more popular then them. Maybe Hasan's both very big and very rabbid fanbse contacting cloudflare was what did this forum in. Obviously Lucas got the ball rolling but still I think I have a decent theory.
Once again don't put to much stock into this schizo post of mine, but I still think it's something interesting to think about.
@Vectra Great find man, this is so funny. Hasan is legitimately sinking to the levels of BossmanJack LMAO. this is truly some excellent content