How come so few of you put real effort into presenting yourselves?
What's the hold up? Is it considered gay to care too much about that stuff?
I don't think so. I make an effort to look presentable when i leave my house, wether with or without my girlfriend. I am not as deep into fashion as i used to when i was younger (Spending up to 400 DM,- on wool sweaters or ~200 DM,- on a pair of pants wasn't unusual for me) but i still spend a pretty penny on stuff that i know looks nice on me, the most expensive being jeans (only certain cuts fit me, currently i only wear jeans of one brand and they're around 80€) and shoes (not a sneakerfag but i mostly wear Airmax 90's and Airforce 1's). I just like looking nice and the men in my social circle are much the same, it's also normal for us to complement each other on our looks when we meet, nothing gay about it.
Then again, the men in my culture greet each other with kisses on the cheek and some uncultured men from inferior cultures see that as gay already.
What i do see as bordering gay territory is men who spend longer than their girlfriends/wives in the bathroom getting primped up or going to beauty salons and shit, that is definitely for women and i will judge you as a man if your eyebrows look more done up than my girlfriend's
Edit: Skinny jeans are mad gay and i hate the whole trend with a passion, if your jeans are tighter than your girlfriend's jeans you're a faggot, 100%.
>inb4 lol fat
The weird thing to me is that suits or dressing up nice is a sign of status and therefore is something to be mocked.
Definitly have seen/heard that before, on both sides of the spectrum, the blue collar guy mocking the prissy dude and the rich bitch kids mocking the less affluent for not being able to afford expensive clothing on mommy's dime. While i judge people harshly on how they look and how they dress i keep this shit to myself and do it in my head, like a civilized person. I also judge myself (too) harshly on how i look and what i wear, which, i admit, is kind of a womanly thing to do.
in my experience the majority of *women* are suspicious of men who groom too much and/or overdress. Either they suspect they might be gay, or that they're overcompensating for something/might be a pick-up artist.
I agree to that.
You guys are tripping, you can definitely go overboard and look like a fag but taking care of your skin, knowing what clothing compliments you, fragrances, etc. That shit will level you up. It's 1/10th of what my girl does for herself and it helped me appreciate that more.
My nigga.
Women recognise when a woman simply isn't wearing makeup, but men don't.
#NOTALLMEN. It's easily recognizable if you're not completely ignorant. I will always prefer make-up over no make-up. As i said before, if it's well-applied it improves a woman's look tenfold.