Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

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According to Zigger logic this means everybody in America is a Nazi and their cities should be bombarded with cruise missiles.

SFGs are some of the non cucked holdouts that carry most of the weight these days in the Army. Funny enough the 20th did a lot of training missions with the AFU and helped them get rid of a lot of Ukraine's garbage USSR era tactics and SOPs and implement hardware like the Javelin and NLAW as well as use night vision effectively. It's probably how areas like the Kharkiv front overperformed and stacked zigger bodies like firewood with minimal equipment and manning. Another thing during the 2014-2022 period it was noted how much easier and more pleasant it was teaching AFU members over the low IQ subhumans in the Afghan National Army.

 

[East_Clintwood]

For some of them, I assume it's simply reaction to the mental acrobatics the western political establishment performed to suddenly start supporting Azov and the like. If you go back to about 2015 or 2016, or whenever it was that the Ukrainian military began formally incorporating paramilitary groups like Azov into the command structure, you can see a lot of hand-wringing in the western media about how they were all "ethno-nationalists", along with not-so-subtle attempts to shame Ukraine into cutting ties with them. There was some riffing off that early in older threads.

I'm not gonna lie, the mental gymnastics of Azov bad no wait Azov good, was kinda funny to watch, even as a staunch pro-Ukraine supporter. I remember Ian McCollum of Forgotten Weapons announced his publishing company was going to release the memoir of a Swedish Azov volunteer ~2 weeks before the invasion began and people lost their shit to the point where the entire thing got shitcanned by the end of the day due to the backlash. Fast forward a few weeks and suddenly Azov are actually heroes and the same people who were shitting on it were now fucking crowdfunding them and shit. Worst timing in history.

 

[Mikoyan]

I'm not gonna lie, the mental gymnastics of Azov bad no wait Azov good, was kinda funny to watch, even as a staunch pro-Ukraine supporter. I remember Ian McCollum of Forgotten Weapons announced his publishing company was going to release the memoir of a Swedish Azov volunteer ~2 weeks before the invasion began and people lost their shit to the point where the entire thing got shitcanned by the end of the day due to the backlash. Fast forward a few weeks and suddenly Azov are actually heroes and the same people who were shitting on it were now fucking crowdfunding them and shit. Worst timing in history.

At the time I thought two things. "Man if he'd just waited two months." And, "The only thing this is going to accomplish is an actual far right publisher will get the money for it."

And sure enough, Antelope Hill got your back.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I remember Ian McCollum of Forgotten Weapons announced his publishing company was going to release the memoir of a Swedish Azov volunteer ~2 weeks before the invasion began and people lost their shit to the point where the entire thing got shitcanned by the end of the day due to the backlash.

Yeah, I remember that. It was stupid too; the book looked super interesting. It was pretty clear that Ian wanted to publish it in spite of the backlash - iirc, he even said something along the lines of the stories never being as simple as everyone wants to believe - but he couldn't risk the effect it would have on his publisher and his business contacts, which would probably have been torn to shreds if he'd pushed forward with it.

People suck.

 

[otherdispair]

I'm not gonna lie, the mental gymnastics of Azov bad no wait Azov good, was kinda funny to watch, even as a staunch pro-Ukraine supporter. I remember Ian McCollum of Forgotten Weapons announced his publishing company was going to release the memoir of a Swedish Azov volunteer ~2 weeks before the invasion began and people lost their shit to the point where the entire thing got shitcanned by the end of the day due to the backlash. Fast forward a few weeks and suddenly Azov are actually heroes and the same people who were shitting on it were now fucking crowdfunding them and shit. Worst timing in history.

It was great time on /k/ with all the spastics that got angry over Ian "denying" the white genocide in SA because he is a super duper commy faggot suddenly having to /k/ope with Ian wanting to publish a book from a not so neo neo-nazi. (I do not deny the mistreatment of whites in SA, simply like he said that there isn't a active genocide going on. Not jet at least)

 

[Bunny Wigglesworth]

It is endlessly funny to me that they were in hysterics, pearl clutching, struck by agonizing paroxysms over the death of Coach Red Pill in Ukrainian custody because "HE WAS MURDERED AND TORTURED!!!!" even though catching fucking pneumonia in a [most likely] overcrowded prison is not uncommon, yet when the FSB is uploading videos of themselves putting alligator clips on some durka-durka's ballsack and electrocuting him, it's suddenly "THIS IS REAL JUSTICE THE DECADENT WEST COULD NEVER!"

Remember when these twats shrieked about looters & gypsy pickpockets getting taped to posts for police to pick up? Human rights activists when Ukrainian civilians tried to maintain order in chaos brought by Tsar Manlet’s invasion, bloodthirsty psychos when suspects are tortured w/o due process or when Russki missiles double-tap first responders.

Worth reading replies. Our based niggaz are wildin, yall
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“Look at how he was treated. You can just tell he is black”...
Fo sho. Lived with his moms at 33, invisible father, constantly getting in trouble with the authorities, always had grape-drank on hand, was an ass man who loved hoes.
Jesus was mad niggerish.

Other news...what Chins, Katsaps & Pajeets do w/ phones:


What Ukrainians do with phones:

(1:45) Ukrainians put 8,000 cellphones connected to mics on poles around the country to detect Russian drones. 84/84 drones detected, 80 downes with AA guns. Cost: $500 each.

 

[World in Scarlet]

To the point where you'll have dudes rocking the Kolovrat, and with basically fascist and WN views, going on about denazifying Ukraine.

The denazifiers have gigantic swastika tattoos, wear Waffen-SS patches and pose with Third Reich flags. This is completely normal and not worth mentioning for the pro-Russian side. Just like how Ukrainian public opinion swinging towards closer association with a western defensive alliance after Russia invaded in 2014 is an act of aggression against Russia that justifies the full scale invasion in 2022.

This kind of retardation is why there can't be one thread to discuss this. It would be interesting to have perspectives that are more sceptical of western claims and have a direct line to Russian sentiments and whatever actual data there is among all the garbage, but the pro-Russians are a mix of openly dishonest shills, and people who got brainwashed by said shills and just parrot dumb shit in the face of contradicting evidence. Everyone who has the ability to think for themselves and an inclination towards checking claims ends up being anti-Russia (which is not the same as being pro-Ukraine, not that ziggers have the mental capacity to understand that difference).

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Remember when these twats shrieked about looters & gypsy pickpockets getting taped to posts for police to pick up? Human rights activists when Ukrainian civilians tried to maintain order in chaos brought by Tsar Manlet’s invasion, bloodthirsty psychos when suspects are tortured w/o due process or when Russki missiles double-tap first responders.

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Reuters: Ryazan refinery launches AVT-4 unit suspended due to UAV attack

The Ryazan refinery (controlled by Rosneft (MOEX: ROSN)) has started up the AVT-4 primary oil refining unit, which was suspended after a drone attack on 13 March, Reuters reported citing sources. The unit's utilisation rate has been brought to 60 per cent of its pre-emergency level.

"Ryazan is running at a load of 60 per cent of normal. AT-4 has been put back into operation. AT-6 is being launched on 31 March and will reach the mode in a few days," the agency quoted one of the interlocutors as saying.

The drone attack on an oil refinery in the Ryazan region was reported by the region's governor Pavel Malkov in the morning of 13 March. Reuters found out that two of the four primary refining units - AVT-4 and AT-6 - were damaged as a result of the fire that broke out after the attack. The agency's information was later confirmed by a Kommersant interlocutor in the industry.

According to Reuters, Rosneft's Ryazan refinery processed 12.7 million tonnes of crude in 2023, which is 4.6% of Russia's total oil refining capacity. At the end of last year, the refinery produced 2.8 million tonnes of gasoline (6.4% of Russia's total), 3.64 million tonnes of diesel (4.1%), 3.12 million tonnes of fuel oil (7.7%) and 0.87 million tonnes of jet fuel (8%).

AVT-4 and AT-6 account for about 70% of the total primary refining capacity of the Ryazan Refinery. Production capacity of AVT-4 is 11.4 thousand tonnes of crude oil per day, AT-6 - 23.2 thousand tonnes per day.

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Arta, together with the FPV drones of the 47th Mechanised Brigade, is mixing the enemy with mud in the Avdiivka sector.

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Another failed golf cart assault. People were complaining about Ukrainians using MRAPs but this is a new level.

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[Clownish]

He underscored the importance of the Russian people in preserving the multinational Russian state, saying “Let no one scare us with Russian nationalism. Russian nationalism does not exist in nature, everyone knows that.” - Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill. RT link

Since the ISIS attack the Russian authorities have started spewing this nonsense. They don't want race riots, but I don't think these types of comments are going to help anything. Russian youth have been posting videos online of their harassment against Tajiks and other Asians.

 

[DumbDude43]

He underscored the importance of the Russian people in preserving the multinational Russian state, saying “Let no one scare us with Russian nationalism. Russian nationalism does not exist in nature, everyone knows that.” - Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill. RT link

Since the ISIS attack the Russian authorities have started spewing this nonsense. They don't want race riots, but I don't think these types of comments are going to help anything. Russian youth have been posting videos online of their harassment against Tajiks and other Asians.

the patriarch is not totally wrong, putins russia pretty openly and explicitly rejects the idea of russia as a nation-state.
i think it's mostly because the ruling elite prefer ruling over a vast multinational imperial state, which is more prestigious for them and gives them a bigger say in world affairs.
i've even heard people say that putin has been systematically destroying and rooting out ethnic russian nationalist organisations over the last two decades, though i can't tell how much truth there is to that.

 

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He underscored the importance of the Russian people in preserving the multinational Russian state, saying “Let no one scare us with Russian nationalism. Russian nationalism does not exist in nature, everyone knows that.” - Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill. RT link

Since the ISIS attack the Russian authorities have started spewing this nonsense. They don't want race riots, but I don't think these types of comments are going to help anything. Russian youth have been posting videos online of their harassment against Tajiks and other Asians.

Putin is an idiot if he thinks Muslims don't see themselves as Muslim first and Russian a far second.

 

[East_Clintwood]

Another failed golf cart assault. People were complaining about Ukrainians using MRAPs but this is a new level.

The fact they're going literally anywhere near active frontlines in something so flimsy is baffling to me, and this is coming from someone who spent the first couple of years driving round the middle east in a Snatch Land Rover.

 

[DumbDude43]

Putin is an idiot if he thinks Muslims don't see themselves as Muslim first and Russian a far second.

that's not what he cares about i think. the muslims he can handle, either with bribes in their pockets or boots on their necks.
he's more worried about a possible emergence of russian ethnic nationalism, that could inflame ethnic tensions a lot. and ethnic russians are far too numerous, they can't easily be bribed or trampled into compliance like the chechens and the other little churka republics.

 

[Clownish]

i've even heard people say that putin has been systematically destroying and rooting out ethnic russian nationalist organisations over the last two decades, though i can't tell how much truth there is to that.

That is true. The leader of Russian Volunteer Corps was friends with Tesak who was "found died in his prison cell". Tesak was the most popular nationalist in Russia, and they blame Putin for his murder.

 

[Ghostse]

This one was commissioned in 2018.

I was talking about the Minsk & the other ship that got hit.

Though that was one of the first ships to get drone'd, and it was way out there. I can see why Russia would want that ship back in action, for C&C/SIGINT, but I just wouldn't think it'd be worth it. Its not a well protected combatant.

 

[World in Scarlet]

but I just wouldn't think it'd be worth it. Its not a well protected combatant.

Does the Russian navy operate at all outside of the very east part of the Black Sea? It seems every time something sails out of the cuck zone it gets hit by a sea drone or missile.

During the last 7 days a group of Russian ships sailed south along the Atlantic side of the Iberian coast.

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I never thought about it, but the Russian navy has had a number of ships from other fleets locked in the Black Sea for years now, and they're forced to stay there until the war is over. I wonder whether that causes issues.

 

[DumbDude43]

I never thought about it, but the Russian navy has had a number of ships from other fleets locked in the Black Sea for years now, and they're forced to stay there until the war is over. I wonder whether that causes issues.

unless they get into another war that requires lots of naval attention, i don't see how it would be an issue beyond being a minor annoyance for their logistics

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Smekalka!

 

[teriyakiburns]

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Smekalka!

I cringed so hard, I'm about 4 inches shorter...

 

[World in Scarlet]

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What is going on there?

 

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What is going on there?

Classic case of unattended E-3s.