AI Art Seething General

[linchan]

Artists don't produce slop?

See that doesn't help the case of the artists, I was probably more supportive of the writers strike when it happened a decade and a half ago, we were in the middle of the new golden age of television, and there was a noticeable dip in quality of several celebrated shows in the middle of it. But nowadays?

90% of my entertainment is from social media or Youtube, I probably haven't watched television outside of being in a restaurant. I only keep up with around one show a year, with most shows I watch was already completed years ago.

Trying to frame the battle against AI as "Great Writers vs Machine Generated Slop" is kinda half hearted for a lot of people. If anything I feel like the best source of creative entertainment are nowadays independent and small, this is at least true for video games. I don't think corporations producing more slop through AI is really going to make things notably worse. This is why a lot of people are complacent with AI replacing localizers.

As petty it is to turn a blind eye on the job loss in the creative field because it impacts a lot of artists that are annoying, that sentiment is probably going to be more of a reason why people are turning more apathetic as they lose faith in the quality of the media we are exposed to.

 

[Girahira]

I feel like there's only so many types of artists in western nowadays:

It’s time to admit that even those types are eons more diverse in creativity and style than the Asian market. It shouldn’t be a surprise that AI, if it sweeps a market, it‘ll be anime. Nevermind that it’s all cardboard, yes all of it, it‘d be piss easy to mimic because the same, bland uniformity had always been in demand there.

 

[GunCar Gary]

I understand if people with fewer technical skills do it for fun (or make said AI art represent them if they can't pay or reach out to artists) or if artists adapt to it and use AI as a tool to help them. I just see a problem if corporations replace all artists with AI-generated slop and said artists are left with nothing, along with people trying to scam others with realistic AI media. Don't look at me as if I'm a rabid AI hater from Twitter who screams at people making AI memes purely for fun, I hate those kinds of people.

i keep seeing every single AI art argument boil down to one thing: if AI tools are easy enough for plebians to use them you shouldn't be able to earn money from that tool because it's taking money away from me, a proper artist. the common people can have fun with their little toys but only tools that cater to me and help me create my art, as a proper artist, should be able to make money

every time it shows the priority of even reasonable artists is securing their paycheck. it's understandable, but it's ultimately a losing battle

 

[weirdMcGee]

Well... You do have a point right there. There are certain artists I wouldn't mind being replaced by AI at all. People who make slop like this (courtesy of cannonsinmyhead):

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I would rather have AI art or "boring generic attractive skinny white designs" than whatever this cancer is.

Dafuq am I looking at? my stomach just reflexively grimaced man. JFC.

 

[Baraadmirer]

Well... You do have a point right there. There are certain artists I wouldn't mind being replaced by AI at all. People who make slop like this (courtesy of cannonsinmyhead):

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I would rather have AI art or "boring generic attractive skinny white designs" than whatever this cancer is.

It took me a while to realise that they're the anthropomorphised versions of the Mane Six, and the designs are not flattering. This ( PreserveTube ), while rougher in design, comes off as less gayer than whatever the above is.

 

[Po's Cootah]

i keep seeing every single AI art argument boil down to one thing: if AI tools are easy enough for plebians to use them you shouldn't be able to earn money from that tool because it's taking money away from me, a proper artist. the common people can have fun with their little toys but only tools that cater to me and help me create my art, as a proper artist, should be able to make money

every time it shows the priority of even reasonable artists is securing their paycheck. it's understandable, but it's ultimately a losing battle

If it's a losing battle... The future seems really bleak and dystopic.

In my opinion, if you pay someone to generate custom AI art for you (as if it was a commission) with public AI assets, you're getting scammed, if you can easily do it yourself and get the same results.

 

[Mr.Miyagi]

The upper echelons of online artistry are still going to leverage their million follower social media accounts to get paid lavish commission fees for artwork that an AI can't generate. The artists working at Facebook and Google are still going to be told to draw up sketches of purple-skinned, bizarrely proportioned humanoids for their corporate messaging.

I think the rise of AIgen allowing people (who previously had lacked the practical knowledge) to bring what they imagine into digital reality is something worth praising. It's not a death knell. I believe both artists in the industry and artists working on their own are still going to exist, it's just going to be, for many of them, a different set of tools and a different workflow.

In my opinion, if you pay someone to generate custom AI art for you (as if it was a commission) with public AI assets, you're getting scammed, if it's easy enough for anyone to use it.

I'd also just suggest that anyone doing so simply learn how to make the artwork themselves, but some people value the convenience of other people doing it for them, same as in other areas of life.

Personally, I think most of the people I see in these artist circles who lament this change as being "the death of human creativity" are massively blowing things out of proportion. Not only do these tools have no bearing on physical crafts, but they're extremely limited in their current state. Too many online artists treat things like Stable Diffusion as total anathema, as if running the program would stain their artist's soul. But if they sat down for a day and actually tried using them, they'd see the quite obvious areas where a human touch is necessary to fix or improve the generative output. We're still a far cry from being able to type in one sentence and getting a perfectly crafted image with no defects or faults whatsoever.

That's one of the reasons why I think the artist outcry is so funny, as I've said before: AI-generated artwork is treated as simultaneously so terrible that it warrants no praise and no attention, but then also a horrifying existential threat that will reduce mankind into soulless automata by murdering the hopes and dreams of every child who aspires to put brush to canvas. It's absurd.

 

[Po's Cootah]

Okay. I sure hope the future doesn't turn out to be mankind being reduced into soulless automata by greedy corporations... That idea from the artist outcry is absurd, but it also makes my imagination from my anxious brain go wild. After all, greedy megacorporations and the powerful have done many heinous things for centuries now, but I feel like they're going off limits nowadays with the evolution of technology and globalization.

Or maybe the internet (along with the school I used to study in and graduated from) bombarding me with bad news about the world and my habits of doomscrolling on Twitter and Tumblr I used to have before made me too anxious.

 

[George Lucas]

I feel the war against AI is starting to turn against the anti-AI crowd. We are going through the stages of grief in real time.

 

[linchan]

I feel the war against AI is starting to turn against the anti-AI crowd. We are going through the stages of grief in real time.

I wouldn't call it too soon, as soon as we get a conclusion from any of the many lawsuits things might turn.

 

[GunCar Gary]

If it's a losing battle... The future seems really bleak and dystopic.

It's a losing battle for keeping things working the same as they do now. AI art being commonplace isn't going to turn the world into a cyberpunk dystopia, it will just make things different. that's why the synthesizer ban article i posted is important -- you had artists who were used to doing things one way fighting back against new technology, and now the technology is just kind of there and people use it all the time and don't think about it

musicians haven't disappeared because of synthesizers and drum machines. they just needed to use new tools to stay competitive. adapt or die

Or maybe the internet (along with the school I used to study in and graduated from) bombarding me with bad news about the world and my habits of doomscrolling on Twitter and Tumblr I used to have before made me too anxious.

yes. go touch grass, stalker child

 

[weirdMcGee]

It took me a while to realise that they're the anthropomorphised versions of the Mane Six, and the designs are not flattering. This ( PreserveTube ), while rougher in design, comes off as less gayer than whatever the above is.

I'd take this over disgusting sjw crap any day of the week.

 

[AnOminous]

Well... You do have a point right there. There are certain artists I wouldn't mind being replaced by AI at all. People who make slop like this (courtesy of cannonsinmyhead):

I wouldn't mind arutists like this launched into the Sun.

I don't think corporations producing more slop through AI is really going to make things notably worse.

There is certainly going to be collateral damage on some people who don't deserve it, but the people screeching loudest about it are talentless hacks and worthless people like "localizers" who are really nothing more than vandals imposing their white savior shit on art by actual pee-oh-sees like Asians.

 

[weirdMcGee]

It’s time to admit that even those types are eons more diverse in creativity and style than the Asian market. It shouldn’t be a surprise that AI, if it sweeps a market, it‘ll be anime. Nevermind that it’s all cardboard, yes all of it, it‘d be piss easy to mimic because the same, bland uniformity had always been in demand there.

Which I find confounding as the artist screaming loudest over it are usually from the west. Eastern ones either quietly disappear from the face of the earth or stay quiet with the loudest being some cease and desist letter. AI kinda sucks in a lot of fields like comics, certain fetishes, and art styles. Lord help you when getting it to do two characters without attributes bleeding to the other.

 

[Drain Todger]

The ones I really hate are those Tumblr mongs who draw every single one of their characters with vitiligo. We need AI art to fully replace this. Actually, we need Boston Dynamics bots to hunt these people down, knock them over with a hockey stick, and teabag them while dabbing.

Fluttershy is looking at them in the same way I feel about this art.
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I didn’t even realize who they were supposed to be, until your post made me do a double-take. Horrifying.

You know what the best part is? That eye-searing garbage probably took some retard eight hours to draw. This pic of Fluttershy being incredibly disgusted at all her friends being drawn as fat and androgynous mutants took me eight seconds:

Spoiler: Tumblrified

 

[Girahira]

Which I find confounding as the artist screaming loudest over it are usually from the west. Eastern ones either quietly disappear from the face of the earth or stay quiet with the loudest being some cease and desist letter. AI kinda sucks in a lot of fields like comics, certain fetishes, and art styles. Lord help you when getting it to do two characters without attributes bleeding to the other.

Being a whiny bitch on social media has not yet caught on as a trend there.

 

[X Prime]

The upper echelons of online artistry are still going to leverage their million follower social media accounts to get paid lavish commission fees for artwork that an AI can't generate.

Related to this, people really, really need to understand that the primary metric for whether an artist is successful or not is having a connection.

It is not technical skill, though you do need to have a certain minimum of that (note that getting that is also gatekept). It is definitely not creativity. It is who you know, like every other job that leans leftward politically and has a massive underclass of toilers.

In the Twitter space, the connection is "who rewteets you."

In other words, Hunter Biden type situations are not actually an anomaly.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

This is not really an AI art Seething post, however, I am posting this to juxtapose the difference between actually educated and creative people vs starving artists that use MS paint for 50 bucks a pop's reaction to AI.

 

[AnOminous]

Being a whiny bitch on social media has not yet caught on as a trend there.

Someone ought to feed an AI a bunch of reddit and xitter to create an AI that takes the "jobs" of people being whiny bitches on social media. That would really piss them off.

Imagine an AI reddit supermod.

 

[weirdMcGee]

Someone ought to feed an AI a bunch of reddit and xitter to create an AI that takes the "jobs" of people being whiny bitches on social media. That would really piss them off.

Imagine an AI reddit supermod.

don't give them ideas