Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Radola Gajda]

Has anyone noticed that every single western history channel and academic have started replacing Kievan Rus with "Kyivan Rus" after February 2022? Whenever they say it I'm kept being reminded that these people literally are rewriting history and the name of places due to their petty hatred for anything that has to do with Russia or Moscow.

Other than that, it's a useful tool to know what channels and individuals are Ukro-shills.

Yeah and vast majority of them can't pronounce Kyiv "correct" Ukrainian way. So they sound really cringe.

 

[Strix454]

Poland should invade Lithuania. It's clear they're suffering from the inferiority complex of not being the Polish-Lithuania Commonwealth anymore.

They will get around to it eventually. After they got independence back at the end of the first world war, a project to overthrow the government of and absorb Lithuania was one of the first things they tried to do in 1919. They consider Lithuania, Belerus and Ukraine as "theirs" to this day.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Wouldn't it have been harder to get waringin if Russia timed the launches so they all struck at the same time?

Probably but it seems at best they had 3 minutes or less or warning that something was incoming.

Plus, land launched Zircon is still brand new so maybe a launcher or two had issues

 

[Slur Generator]

Yeah and vast majority of them can't pronounce Kyiv "correct" Ukrainian way. So they sound really cringe.

"I don't get it. Why should I care what they call Kiev? We don't call Germany Deutschland or Japan Nihon.
Turkey is still Turkey and I dont care what new name India has. Same goes for city names or anything else.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

"I don't get it. Why should I care what they call Kiev? We don't call Germany Deutschland or Japan Nihon.
Turkey is still Turkey and I dont care what new name India has. Same goes for city names or anything else.

I don't get it either really. Damn near every city in Ukraine already has multiple spellings depending on who you read, sometimes changing the spelling multiple times in a day. Adviidka or however the fuck its spelled being one great example. I've spelled it probably 5 different ways in my posts here during that battle. Ukrainian official's names too. Finally I just said gave up spelling any of it correctly.

 

[Betonhaus]

"I don't get it. Why should I care what they call Kiev? We don't call Germany Deutschland or Japan Nihon.
Turkey is still Turkey and I dont care what new name India has. Same goes for city names or anything else.

Is this like a Freedom Fries scenario?

Either way, the city of Addycat has too many names.

 

[Fatniggo1488]

"I don't get it. Why should I care what they call Kiev? We don't call Germany Deutschland or Japan Nihon.
Turkey is still Turkey and I dont care what new name India has. Same goes for city names or anything else.

It's basically the same thing niggers and faggots do in the US. The "appropriate" term for them changes whenever they want it to, and you better not use the wrong term.

 

[blackjack101]

 

[Strix454]

"I don't get it. Why should I care what they call Kiev? We don't call Germany Deutschland or Japan Nihon.
Turkey is still Turkey and I dont care what new name India has. Same goes for city names or anything else.

The people who decide these things are:

1) The United States Board on Geographic Names

2) The New York Times, Associated Press and Reuters

Nobody used to care much about transliteration issues. But suddenly it became very political in the 1970s and there was this attitude that the damn white man had no business telling others how to represent non-english names in English. Names should be spelled in english however some military junta wanted them spelled. To do otherwise was FascistRacistImperialism.

But it was always very selective and very political who they decided to listen to and why. If Turkey or Iran or many other countries brought up some issue, they would just ignore them. But if there were an underlying political reason for the change, it would be hammered through. That is what happened with the Ukraine name changes and the US board on Geographic Names. We ended up with "Beijing" in a similar way but it was the New York Times that forced the change on everyone else years ago.

Everyone else in academia and publishing yields to (1) and (2) as the proper authorities in these matters.

 

[Susanna]

Finally I just said gave up spelling any of it correctly.

As well you might, they can only be correctly spelled in the Cyrillic alphabet anyway. Any transliteration into an inferior alphabet will lose some sound or other, because alphabets evolve along with the languages that use them. The modern Latin alphabet evolved along the Romance languages, which is why English spelling is often kludgy, and the poles have to go to ridiculous extremes to cram all the sounds their language uses into a far too constrictive alphabet for it.
As long as the letters you use make a more or less comprehensible sound, your transliteration was successful.

 

[Male Idiot]

As well you might, they can only be correctly spelled in the Cyrillic alphabet anyway. Any transliteration into an inferior alphabet will lose some sound or other, because alphabets evolve along with the languages that use them. The modern Latin alphabet evolved along the Romance languages, which is why English spelling is often kludgy, and the poles have to go to ridiculous extremes to cram all the sounds their language uses into a far too constrictive alphabet for it.
As long as the letters you use make a more or less comprehensible sound, your transliteration was successful.

That is just poles making noises to communicate with toilet plungers.

 

[Gondolindrim]

This one got a chuckle out of me

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https://twitter.com/OlgaBazova/status/1773221488700645609

Maybe I'm giving the US government too much credit, but at this point it feels like Zelensky's going rogue. Ukraine is doing some really stupid shit lately and you can tell by the Ukie flags on Twitter constantly crying all the free money and equipment that they simply don't understand how good they have it.

 

[PrimeRadiant]

For fucks sake what air defenses are they using? if they dont humiliate themselves with their ships getting destroyed they will humiliate themselves a few weeks later with their aircrafts getting shot down. If they don't humiliate themselves with their aircrafts getting destroyed a few weeks later some of their ships will get destroyed. I guess it's easier to be a high-ranking military official in the army for Russia than the Airforce or Navy.
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Its war. things get destroyed. people die.

 

[Walrus and Carpenter 2.0]

As well you might, they can only be correctly spelled in the Cyrillic alphabet anyway. Any transliteration into an inferior alphabet will lose some sound or other, because alphabets evolve along with the languages that use them. The modern Latin alphabet evolved along the Romance languages, which is why English spelling is often kludgy, and the poles have to go to ridiculous extremes to cram all the sounds their language uses into a far too constrictive alphabet for it.
As long as the letters you use make a more or less comprehensible sound, your transliteration was successful.

You bring up a good point. There only a few alphabets widely in use worldwide, so most languages are written using an alphabet or set of characters that were not developed with that language in mind. My dad collects trench art from the first world war and had the good fortune to find a couple of French 75mm shells that had been decorated by an Ottoman POW. When I tried to do some research into the shells, I found out that the mottoes engraved on them were most likely the Turkish language but in Arabic script. This was always considered to be a very poor fit and was one of the reasons that Ataturk forced the Turks to start using the Latin alphabet.

 

[White_N]

A Ukrainian comedy show makes fun of 22 Ukrainians who drowned in the Tisa River in an attempt to escape mobilization

Articles about drowned men and video
https://hromadske.ua/en/posts/the-b...ow-the-schemes-of-trafficking-men-abroad-work
https://suspilne.media/655168-minul...i-namagaucis-nezakonno-peretnuti-kordon-dpsu/

I'm drowning in your eyes like an evader in the Tisa

The next Swimming Championship of Ukraine will be held in the Tisa River, and the winner of the championship will get a trip abroad

The full show

I would like to remind you that a Ukrainian border guard recently made a video showing how he shoots Ukrainian citizens fleeing mobilization to Romania on the Tisa River.

"'Evaders pay a thousand dollars each to swim across the Tisza!' And a border guard with an AK-74 does this."

 

[Eternal Gopnik]

Dunno there were rumors floating around that middle class families from Poland are on massive buying spree of real estate so they can go somewhere if things blow up . Couldn't find source but to me it feels exercise in futility. Of Poland goes to war the whole continent goes with it. And if anything to go by how they treated Ukraine and its populance it will be the same for rest of Europe. After all its not them thrown in the grinder .

That's not particularly special. Anyone who has liquid cash in Europe is looking to invest. The inflation here is brutal.

 

[The Ugly One]

I would like to remind you that a Ukrainian border guard recently made a video showing how he shoots Ukrainian citizens fleeing mobilization to Romania on the Tisa River.

Ukrainians are fighting because their government will shoot them if they don't.
Their government is paid for by the USA.

 

[Random Internet Person]

 

[Useful_Mistake]

CNN makes claims, their source provides no evidence

“Russia’s security services knew of ISIS threat before concert attack, new evidence from investigative body suggests”

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/29/europe/kremlins-aware-of-isis-threat-before-concert-attack-intl-hnk/index.html

https://dossier.center/teract/

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Kremenchug hydroelectric power station was hit in the morning. Ukraine is on its way to lose all its power. Looks like Russia has had enough and is turning the lights out. Link​

The Krivoy Rog thermal power plant, one of the largest in Ukraine, was set on fire after a night of bombing, which is still ongoing right now. Link​

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In the past several days nearly all major hydroelectric power plants have been bombed at least twice in the Ukraine, leaving the Kiev hydroelectric power station, the Kiev pumped storage power plant and the Dniester PSPP. The Ukraine's gas storage facilities, the largest in Europe, have been hit several times over. If and when all power facilities are bombed and made inoperative, a Russian offensive will come soon.