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That's just an...oddly specific couple of limits.

Oh, and gangbangs/threeways/orgies too, not just for the complexity.

The fact that I'd willingly draw oral, condoms, or anal even between married straight couples (for enough money) means I'm already failing at my own religion.
Things on my "I actually would draw that" list includes vore and weird transformations. But not sex change TF.

You could always try to break into the adoptable character racket.

Problem there is more or less that I'd wind up designing actual characters and put work into making their color schemes not terrible. Draw each one individually with a pose and whatever when the whole batch is the same species instead of copy/pasting. I'd be putting more work into them and they wouldn't sell as fast, haha.

Fuck, you guys are really going to give my Powerlevel rating button a workout today.

What does the scouter say?
 
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/7828897

I finally broke down and...gulp...browsed submissions.

I couldn't handle anymore than 17 pages before getting physically ill.


My overall impression is that people who come here, IN GENERAL, do so because this is the only meaningful life that they have. That is to say, this is the only gratification, the only source of positive emotions in most people's lives - of those who come here.

And it isn't so you can live out YOUR fantasy. No. Even here, you have to have your life dictated to you, as evidenced by the prevalence of "YCH" sales and auctions. You are so lacking in imagination, that you have to come here and "shop" among scenarios you want to see your characters in, because you lack the imagination to imagine it yourself, and are too lazy to make it happen for real.


You know, I've had a fantasy too, since I was probably 6 years old. And yes, it was a sexual fantasy, as I recently found out I was fondling a female dog at 8 years of age. So we have that much in common. But I was always more serious about my fantasy than anyone I've ever met. I've spent my life trying to make that fantasy a reality.

My fantasy: Well, it was there all the time, but it took me a long, long time to figure out what I really sought. Sexually, my fantasy is to suck my own canine cock. But realistically, it means being partially canine, which of course means being outside society. I mean, come on...what the hell does a half-man half-wolf need with a job? And how would I handle life in a country that shoots people for not being the same color as themselves? I mean, this from a country that has more people in prison than the rest of the world combined, and more guns than the rest of the world combined, and who are quite happy to use those guns to slaughter wolves in complete and utter ignorance of the consequences of destroying a member of a species who exists not as individuals, but as families.

No, I wasn't too fucking lazy to make my fantasy come true. And as a result, I'm not stuck in my mom and dad's fucking basement, or renting some shit apartment, or sharing a shit apartment or house or room or couch with other lazy flakes who are also too lazy to make their fantasies come true. No, I'm sitting on my boat, in Mexico, enjoying my partial fantasy where I can play with my doggies, take in my canine DNA, wack off three times a day, and continue to fantasize about my ulitimate fantasy and work on making progress towards that fantasy.

No, I'm not there yet. I don't have a canine cock of my own to suck (I'm borrowing someone else's for now), but then, it's only a matter of time.

In the mean time, not being stuck in my mom and dad's basement or whatever, I don't have to come here and look at pretty pictures and use other people's imagination to make myself happy. I just look around, realize I'm nearly there, sit back, wack my pud, and cum hard knowing that soon, I will be living a life that would make every single one of you jealous even as you blushed and wished it for yourself.


Don't sit on your ass paying someone else to imagine your fantasies for you. Get off your ass, quit your stupid job, stop paying your stupid bills, take what money you have left, and leave the USA and hitchhike around the world. Hell, there's a woman in San Diego advertising for partners for such a hike on Craigslist. Find her and join her. Find me and join me. Or just find an exit and take it.

Please stop wasting your life. It's painful for me to have to watch.
 
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/7828897

I finally broke down and...gulp...browsed submissions.

I couldn't handle anymore than 17 pages before getting physically ill.


My overall impression is that people who come here, IN GENERAL, do so because this is the only meaningful life that they have. That is to say, this is the only gratification, the only source of positive emotions in most people's lives - of those who come here.

And it isn't so you can live out YOUR fantasy. No. Even here, you have to have your life dictated to you, as evidenced by the prevalence of "YCH" sales and auctions. You are so lacking in imagination, that you have to come here and "shop" among scenarios you want to see your characters in, because you lack the imagination to imagine it yourself, and are too lazy to make it happen for real.


You know, I've had a fantasy too, since I was probably 6 years old. And yes, it was a sexual fantasy, as I recently found out I was fondling a female dog at 8 years of age. So we have that much in common. But I was always more serious about my fantasy than anyone I've ever met. I've spent my life trying to make that fantasy a reality.

My fantasy: Well, it was there all the time, but it took me a long, long time to figure out what I really sought. Sexually, my fantasy is to suck my own canine cock. But realistically, it means being partially canine, which of course means being outside society. I mean, come on...what the hell does a half-man half-wolf need with a job? And how would I handle life in a country that shoots people for not being the same color as themselves? I mean, this from a country that has more people in prison than the rest of the world combined, and more guns than the rest of the world combined, and who are quite happy to use those guns to slaughter wolves in complete and utter ignorance of the consequences of destroying a member of a species who exists not as individuals, but as families.

No, I wasn't too fucking lazy to make my fantasy come true. And as a result, I'm not stuck in my mom and dad's fucking basement, or renting some shit apartment, or sharing a shit apartment or house or room or couch with other lazy flakes who are also too lazy to make their fantasies come true. No, I'm sitting on my boat, in Mexico, enjoying my partial fantasy where I can play with my doggies, take in my canine DNA, wack off three times a day, and continue to fantasize about my ulitimate fantasy and work on making progress towards that fantasy.

No, I'm not there yet. I don't have a canine cock of my own to suck (I'm borrowing someone else's for now), but then, it's only a matter of time.

In the mean time, not being stuck in my mom and dad's basement or whatever, I don't have to come here and look at pretty pictures and use other people's imagination to make myself happy. I just look around, realize I'm nearly there, sit back, wack my pud, and cum hard knowing that soon, I will be living a life that would make every single one of you jealous even as you blushed and wished it for yourself.


Don't sit on your ass paying someone else to imagine your fantasies for you. Get off your ass, quit your stupid job, stop paying your stupid bills, take what money you have left, and leave the USA and hitchhike around the world. Hell, there's a woman in San Diego advertising for partners for such a hike on Craigslist. Find her and join her. Find me and join me. Or just find an exit and take it.

Please stop wasting your life. It's painful for me to have to watch.

Oh god, isn't this the guy who wanted to recruit people on FA to live with him on his boat? Should have freaking guessed he turned out to be even crazier than initially expected.

Guess he didn't have any takers.
 
Oh god, isn't this the guy who wanted to recruit people on FA to live with him on his boat? Should have freaking guessed he turned out to be even crazier than initially expected.

Guess he didn't have any takers.
Considering his visage after visiting his FA page, would you want to be on the same boat as this man?
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Also, the description itself. He wore it to school. He also washed it and ended up destroying it.
October 27th, 2004. Almost two months after the house fire.

I bought this fursuit a year later and wore it to Conifur.

I later wore it to school.

I then washed it, and...dried it.

And ruined it.




And that's how I started making fursuits.

Edit: Looking further into the guy's gallery, he has pictures of real wolves. Here's one of the descriptions
I took this photograph while making observations on wolves for 8 hours straight at what was then the Julian Wolf Preserve, hosts to one of the only captive-wild packs of wolves in the world, meaning they were kept untouched, non-habituated to human interaction. These were wild wolves kept isolated from humans (and thus safe.)

The photograph shows the "upper echelon" of the pack of 25 wolves, about evenly divided between male and female. These photos were taken in December, when the pack was together (they are separated in January by gender to prevent accidental mating.) The alpha of the pack is behind the other wolves, and is the one who has his sheath being sniffed. The alpha, by the way, is the father of the other four wolves, who are of course all litter-mates.

All of these wolves laying together are male.

This is not unusual. In fact, this is NORMAL BEHAVIOR FOR WOLVES!


Wolves segregate by gender, AS DO ALL OTHER PREDATORY SOCIAL MAMMALS (you know, like humans.) This photograph then represents evidence in support of my understanding that humans should not be shacking up with women and putting a ring on their finger. It is mutual enslavement. Period.


And guys, just because you want to lay down and be comfortable with, and even share sexual pleasure with other men, does not make you "gay" or deviant or abnormal in any way. In fact, it means you are a little more human than those around you.

The fact of the matter is, it is marriage between a man and a woman that is unnatural, and men having sex with each other is more natural than men and women living together. Marriage is an institution given to us by religion, an institution of control. Marriage then, is slavery. And is enslaves you by making you believe you are abnormal to not seek to marry a woman.

I have a journal on the subject, with accompanying video:


I only now realized that the wolves in the photograph aren't just packmates, but are in fact littermates. It never occurred to me that this might be important, because I simply took for granted that intimacy among siblings was normal. Now, intimacy may involve sexual contact, but it doesn't mean that having procreative sex with your siblings is a good idea. Wolves do this, but wolves are also highly genetically diverse. If humans were as genetically diverse, it would likely be possible for siblings to create offspring that were not genetically defective. But the fact is, humans are far too genetically concentrated to allow brothers and sisters and parents to produce offspring.

How many of you have experimented sexually with your siblings? My younger brother was a big sex-addict (it's what happens when you don't have the ability to love, you substitute sex.) We experimented once. But he also spent a LOT of time with my sister. As did my father...unfortunately.

Were these things okay? Oh hell no, my step-sister was 3 when my father started raping her, and only 13 when my brother was. So yes folks, there is a difference between consenstual sex, and non-consentual sex. My sister could not consent because she had been conditioned by my father's sexual predation. My brother raped her.



Photograph taken on a Nikon 6006S SLR (non digital, you know, real film) then scanned from negative via my Agfa HID scanner which I purchased for $7.50 at auction at WSU in Pullman Washington some years ago. This scanner retailed for $3,500 new, and at the time I bought it, was going for about $750 used on eBay. I'm a bargain hunter. Whey pay more?
The last part where he mentions family and sex makes one wonder if this guy is no better since one of the tags is "incest". It doesn't help that one feels like the last part mentioning family and sex could refer to his own than that of wolves.
 
Considering his visage after visiting his FA page, would you want to be on the same boat as this man?
Also, the description itself. He wore it to school. He also washed it and ended up destroying it.


Edit: Looking further into the guy's gallery, he has pictures of real wolves. Here's one of the descriptions
The last part where he mentions family and sex makes one wonder if this guy is no better since one of the tags is "incest". It doesn't help that one feels like the last part mentioning family and sex could refer to his own than that of wolves.
And yet I stopped reading this when it got to the part about hetero relationships being unnatural. This guy just sounds nuts.
 
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y'all niggas need jesus

Jesus Christ them.
I've thankfully never seen any of their art IIRC, but I've already heard some of the fucked up shit they draw. Needless to say, I won't be looking at that stuff in like, ever :cryblood:
As far as I can tell, they don't really draw anything, they pay popular furry artists to draw it for them. Gore, rape, and an extra odd flavor of honest to goodness actual misogyny, frequently depicting female characters as literal fuckmeat for males or futas.
 
And yet I stopped reading this when it got to the part about hetero relationships being unnatural. This guy just sounds nuts.
That was something I didn't notice at first due to the fact that I saw one of the tags and thought "okay, now this description must be typed by a depraved mind".

With all this talk of depraved porn and commisions, has whitekitten been brought up at all in this thread yet?
Don't think anyone by that name was mentioned which can make it all the more horrifying for those to learn what makes this one different.
 
I'm not sure this has been posted yet, but apparently in the UK, there's a furry named Adam Wills/"Ricotiger" that is HIV positive and doesn't tell his partners (who he is having unprotected sex with) about this fact. I saw this on Twitter and it just goes to show that despite claims to the contrary, it really is about lots of sex.

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That was something I didn't notice at first due to the fact that I saw one of the tags and thought "okay, now this description must be typed by a depraved mind".
I felt he missed the point of why those wolves were separated to begin with. They're being "controlled", not preferring to hang out with their genders by default, simply forced so none of this 'hanky panky' develops simply due to the very biological urges all species follow.

 
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With all this talk of depraved porn and commisions, has whitekitten been brought up at all in this thread yet?

I don't think so. For as depraved the guy is, he really got screwed over by Sigil in regards to a gorey comic commission that he dropped several thousand on. The cover can be seen here, NSFW and I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to dig up the rest of the W.O.M.B comic series if you really want to see anthro women being put through meat grinders while proclaiming that they are nothing but meat themselves.

This happened some time ago, so it's hard to dig up a lot of information, but basically, in some circles, Sigil is known as a rabid feminist and SJW who is notorious for attacking others over slights that she may perceive as contributing towards "rape culture", such as jokes, comments, etc. When she made this comic, which many, found offensive and hypocritical, her first reaction was to brag about how much she made off of it and rely on her followers to attack anyone who felt that a feminist shouldn't be drawing rape and gore comics when she herself couldn't tolerate a joke about rape. The common argument was that it was merely fantasy and that anyone who was offended was an evil, horrible kinkshamer, and that no one was getting hurt by it. This was even after there were allegations that Jewel was a connoisseur of actual snuff porn.

That was in 2013 and after gloating about how much she made and was making off of the comic sales, she suddenly decides that this comic was always meant to be private and revoked all posting rights from Whitekitten/Jewel, despite the fact that he is a co-author, and goes out of her way to DMCA the comic wherever Jewel posts it.

I'll do my best to find more sources to update this post with, that way it isn't just a matter of "trust me dudes, I saw this all go down", but it was also three years ago and some of the communities where people discussing and being attacked by Sigil's followers have been shut down and/or deleted.
 
I remember all of that shit with Sigil and WhiteKitten. She even got more money beyond the commission price since the comic was up for purchase on some sites, and I think she got all the money from that as well.

Sigil is a nasty piece of work. I remember her trying to claim that some artist used their young daughter as a model for their porn commissions. When people started asking for evidence or sources for that heavy accusation, I think she tried to blame it on someone else. Can't remember exactly and I think this all went down on furrydrama_2 over on livejournal, which got locked down and all of its commentary scrubbed away.
 
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