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MovieBob's tweet was even better: he described the entire stereotype of nerds as "autism blackface"
AUTISM BLACKFACE
Careercow Wil Wheaton + Felicia Day - The "Man" who soy'd the World and the Fakest of Geek Girls, SJW sexual harassment fence-sitters
AUTISM BLACKFACE
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BBT kind of was that. Or as it was also sometimes called, a nerd minstrel show.
I don't know. That show sucked. I've just never been able to get really mad at a stereotype that is "you're really smart." I'm more "okay, thanks." Didn't this shit go out with Revenge of the Nerds?
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Eh, it wasn't so much "You're really smart" as "You're really smart and so completely socially inept as a result that we can spend years and never get tired of making fun of you." I don't have strong feelings about the show either way except insofar as they gave Wil Wheaton opportunities for mainstream airtime, and that I cannot forgive.
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in contrast, you have Maurice Moss in The IT Crowd, who was, on the surface, a stereotypical nerd, and ended up being a much funnier, more three-dimensional and generally likeable character than all four of the BBT nerds combined
this was partly down to the quality of the writing, and partly down to Richard Ayoade's skill as an actor
I've never watched BBT, but I have recently heard parts of it second-hand, and it seems to be nothing other than the actors mechanically repeating lines and the audience automatically laughing, regardless of how funny those lines actually are
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That's why I hate the show. It's also hilarious how UN-funny it is in the JewTube edits where they take out the laugh track. It could be nerd minstrel show for all I give a fuck, but the fact it wasn't even funny and NEEDED a laugh track to trick people into thinking it was funny is why I hate it.
Even something like Two and a Half Men when Charlie Sheen was in it was funny solely because Charlie Sheen had talent as a comedic actor, despite being absolutely, utterly insane.
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I know nothing about this YouTuber, but as far as I'm concerned he's responsible for the seminal deconstruction of Big Bang Theory, and he managed it not with a Mauler-esque 6 hour slogfest, but in less than 30 seconds:
It goes even beyond "nerd" shit. This guy gives an example of a scene getting everything wrong even how ebay works, and explains why he hates the show also in under 4 minutes.
It's genuinely pretty telling that big bang theory absolutely doesn't require some RLM plinkett 3 hour explanation to just explain wtf is sucks and how it fails at everything. You could consider it nitpicking about the name of a drop in World of Warcraft, but considering tens of millions of people have played it at one point or another, people know how the damn drop and trade systems work. Ebay doesn't even have anything to do with nerd culture and people know how it works or doesn't work. The writers didn't care about the source material or most basic concepts at all. The laugh track shit is just a basic failing of US sitcoms in general(do sitcoms do that anymore? Hell, do "traditional" sitcoms even exist in the same state anymore?), but the rest of it is just awful on every level. Combine that with the fact that Wil Wheaton, the wannabe alpha nerd of nerds, couldn't fucking see how awful it was and still participated in it(clearly just for a damned paycheck) doesn't help Wheaton's image or the show.
I also attribute BBT to the reason why we have so many fuckheads invading nerd spaces these days. They infested D&D pretending like they had been interested or played for years... they didn't. They've repeatedly tried to infest warhammer with female space marines(which GW sold in the 90s, and quit selling because no one bought them, including women... go figure). They've shat up an entire star wars trilogy, fucked star trek, got mad with the witcher series when a lead actor who was actually interested in the IP wanted them to stop trying to fucking change it, fucked up LOTR, we've had outsiders screaming about how gamers are nazis and whatever since gg1 and now gg2, and the list just goes on and on all because of fucking BBT convincing people they should all be nerds because of how quirky and fun everything nerdy is, only for them to find out they don't like nerdy shit just like they never did, but rather than leave it alone and move on they need to "fix" everything.
I hate that show so fucking much... yeah, I know, MATI post but damn it's annoying.
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To be fair, I don't know that BBT has anybody defending it - save normies who aren't online (and thus have lives and the sex) and even then they're like, "it reminds me of you and your friends." (which yes, I've heard directly)
Mauler's vids could easily be 30 min if there weren't SW autists constantly triggered and needing it explained why their own mental invention doesn't make the actual real physical movie any good.
Josh Stryfe Hays is a good dude. He could literally make a better BBT than the actual sitcom makers.
I've never heard of anyone defending it either, however that trash show for a few seasons was only ever behind NFL football in ratings. Clearly people thought this shit was funny...
I guess people were supposed to be cheering at Neil Gaiman getting told off or something? But then he refers to Neil Gaiman as if he were someone else, so instead he's just making a cameo appearance as a rando... which... isn't funny even though in that episode Neil Gaiman was tweeting at the main character? Ironically the bitching about new crowds in nerd spaces was a legit complaint, but apparently the reason for that was Neil Gaiman tweeted he liked the store, it didn't get filled up because some crappy show decided it was going to try and make nerd shit "cool".
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If BBT really reminds you of you and your friends, you need to do two things. First, be a better person. Second, get better friends.
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Yeah, hence stressing about 'normies.' The people who liked it are almost all exactly the people you would never hear from. They don't do much social media, or if they do it's for the family pictures, ya know?
Maybe I should be a better person, but I am as Mom Corp made me!
But I said I've had other people tell me that it reminds them of us nerds that used to hang out together.
The problem is that disregarding them entirely simply because they're quiet, doesn't change that it's still the same time frame the MCU movies were gaining traction, and then eventually a bunch of non-nerds invaded and ruined(or currently attempting to ruin) nerd things. Just because they aren't flooding youtube with hour long essays about how BBT is great, doesn't mean they don't impact the market.
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People are allowed to like stupid shit. It would be nice if non-stupid shit would be produced for the rest of us to enjoy at the same time, but people can enjoy stupid shit if they want.
Except if the stupid shit they enjoy for some reason is Wil Wheaton. People shouldn't be allowed to enjoy that. Those people should be rounded up so that their awful taste doesn't taint the market.
I'm not saying they can't enjoy stupid shit. I'm saying this stupid shit was one of the reasons we don't get the non-stupid shit these days.
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These are great examples of why gatekeeping has and always will be a necessary thing.
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Wow, that's probably the first and only time Lyle has actually made me laugh so that's quite a surprise for me, I didn't know he could emote anything other than bored 30 year old that sounds like he's dozing off. I also didn't remember anything this magnitude of bad in the show, that was fucking horrifying.
Listen, maybe I'm horribly autistic or something and I don't get 1990's comedy, but isn't this pretty much Friends tier bar the nerd references?
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I approve calling out all the obvious fake "nerds" and "gamer girls" for pulling an autism blackface. I'm sure they won't blow a gasket over this at all., being true and honest nerds(and autists) themselves.
Baggywrinkle_v2
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I never watched the show because everything I heard about it was off-putting, especially when Wil Wheaton got involved. But I'd rather have BBT fans in the space than the alphabet mob. I don't know if this show encouraged that level of freak acceptance, but Wil is definitely trying to play savior to the troons after they tried to cancel him once.
Maybe it's a result of normies getting into the nerd spaces that nerds felt they had to up the ante by making themselves as repulsive as possible, and gaining the ability to admonish and push out the posers.
Arthur Morgan
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A few people I know were BBT fans and from what they said it wasn't so much the nerd shit that entertained them, it was just a dumb easy show you could throw on without having to think about it. I had an ex who made me watch one episode and I found it so shit I was able to notice that the laugh track used the same three laugh types over and over again. But I will say the actors had good chemistry and seemed to actually enjoy being there, which makes up for a lot. It's a shame they weren't on something better.
As for Wil, I think he's defensive about it because it's what brought him back into the limelight for normies. Before he was the guy who played Wesley as a kid, and then he was hanging out at PAX with Scott Kurtz and playing D&D. Then he starts having regular appearances on BBT playing what sounds like a nicer version of himself and people are talking about Wil Wheaton again. He probably got more offers for work from that show and more attention than he'd received in years. But, because he's Wil, he couldn't use that as a stepping stone to something bigger and now he's even more pissed off than he was.
As for Wil, I think he's defensive about it because it's what brought him back into the limelight for normies. Before he was the guy who played Wesley as a kid, and then he was hanging out at PAX with Scott Kurtz and playing D&D. Then he starts having regular appearances on BBT playing what sounds like a nicer version of himself and people are talking about Wil Wheaton again. He probably got more offers for work from that show and more attention than he'd received in years. But, because he's Wil, he couldn't use that as a stepping stone to something bigger and now he's even more pissed off than he was.