Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Random Internet Person]

 

[Fuck It We'll Do It Live]

There's no way the goal if slightly obfuscating analytics nobody cares about is worth losing the ability to embed youtube videos.

And Perun is one of the few military information YouTubers that is worth giving heckin' view updoots to.

 

[No. 7 cat]

This time Francis has avoided parroting Russian propaganda but in call for a complete prisoner exchange, he as usual refused the invader. A crusader indulgence for the fight against schismatics is too much to expect, but even a factual observation on what is happened, is usually beyond him. Perhaps Francis wants to weaken the Greek Catholics in Ukraine. He told his pal KGB Kirill Greek Catholics should exist.

Spoiler: z pope calls for prisoner exchange

In a traditional Easter message, Pope Francis has called for an "all for all" prisoner exchange between Ukraine and Russia.

Source: Vatican news; Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church website

Details: Addressing "the city and the world," the Pontiff mentioned wars in different parts of the world.

The call for an exchange of prisoners was welcomed by people at St. Peter's Square in the Vatican with loud applause.

Pope Francis began by expressing his concern for the victims of the world's numerous conflicts, beginning with those in Israel, Palestine, and Ukraine. "May the risen Christ open a path of peace for the war-torn peoples of those regions," he added.

"In calling for respect for the principles of international law. I express my hope for a general exchange of all prisoners between Russia and Ukraine: all for the sake of all!"

Ukrainska Pravda archive/Ukrainska Pravda

 

[NewFagWhore]

Who the fuck cares what the pope has to say? No really.

Orthodox people clearly dont care

Lutherans and protestants obviously do not care and consider him the devil.

If you are catholic and you still care you are actually just a papist and luther was 100% right about your church.

If you are a “true” catholic the pope has clearly alienated you by now

Only people who applaud him are leftists who hate christ and christianity and are just cheering on the destruction of faith this commie faggot causes, the pope is so irrelevant that even if he washed nigger feet again no one would bat an eye.

He cant change anything in italy, not to mention in a war between an orthodox and an “orthodox” country.

 

[No. 7 cat]

Well,. the Vatican still has a vast network of diplomatic contacts, wealth and is the spiritual leader of over a billion. There's quite a few Greek Rite Catholics, something like 20% of believers in Ukraine. His blundering diplomacy (apart from Cardinal Zuppi's prisoner mediation) and that means his words matter.


Alex Liashuk's fearsome war cat Shaybaboy

 

[Ghostse]

And Perun is one of the few military information YouTubers that is worth giving heckin' view updoots to.

Agreed. I don't agree with everything he says or concludes, but nigga at least puts in the ground work to back up his claims and can admit when he was wrong.

Thankfully no one posts Red Face anymore. And I did like Ol' Puckers last video because he was speaking from his strengths.

 

[No. 7 cat]

Agreed. I don't agree with everything he says or concludes, but nigga at least puts in the ground work to back up his claims and can admit when he was wrong.

Thankfully no one posts Red Face anymore. And I did like Ol' Puckers last video because he was speaking from his strengths.

Davydov is a Russian speaking Ukrainian from Sevastopol, Crimea. He does give some voice to a group who were an actual majority there before Girkin's gunpoint coup and subsequent Russian occupation. There are times when he gives an insight also to those Ukrainians, a big portion, who didn't vote for Zelensky. Not sure he ever said so, but I got the impression he wasn't a fan. He sometimes draws on his prior career as an airline pilot (MH-17 was a notable incident in the first phase of the war), but usually he just gives a run through of the news, which is dull. The Danish naval officer is good at brief expositions. Possibly he could do more naval videos as that angle (naval drone strikes crippling the Black Sea Fleet largely lifted the Russian naval blockade) is key to the future liberation of Ukraine, but he did cover how hard it can be for a crew member to see a naval drone on radar, so he's good.


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Two years Bucha was liberated and a massacre of hundreds of civilians was discovered. It provided a clear insight into what Russia wishes to do, obliterate Ukraine. One notable thing was that the crimes were variously for terror and for sheer sadism, like an elderly man shot dead while cycling in this village.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Russian FPV chasing Ukrainian Mi-8:

 

[mindlessobserver]

This time Francis has avoided parroting Russian propaganda but in call for a complete prisoner exchange, he as usual refused the invader. A crusader indulgence for the fight against schismatics is too much to expect, but even a factual observation on what is happened, is usually beyond him. Perhaps Francis wants to weaken the Greek Catholics in Ukraine. He told his pal KGB Kirill Greek Catholics should exist.

Spoiler: z pope calls for prisoner exchange

In a traditional Easter message, Pope Francis has called for an "all for all" prisoner exchange between Ukraine and Russia.

Source: Vatican news; Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church website

Details: Addressing "the city and the world," the Pontiff mentioned wars in different parts of the world.

The call for an exchange of prisoners was welcomed by people at St. Peter's Square in the Vatican with loud applause.

Pope Francis began by expressing his concern for the victims of the world's numerous conflicts, beginning with those in Israel, Palestine, and Ukraine. "May the risen Christ open a path of peace for the war-torn peoples of those regions," he added.

"In calling for respect for the principles of international law. I express my hope for a general exchange of all prisoners between Russia and Ukraine: all for the sake of all!"

Ukrainska Pravda archive/Ukrainska Pravda

Little chance of that considering Russia is holding Ukrainian troops in their civil prison system without access to the ICRC. I think one of the most enduring legacies of this war will be the decades spent returning captured soldiers from both sides. Largely due to Russian recalcitrance. Ukraine is really in no position to break the rules considering how reliant it is on international institutions like the ICRC. Russia by contrast justifies its war largely in opposition to these ideas. Plus the whole Putin claim that Ukraine is a fake country and that makes any Ukrainian Soldiers killing Russian Soldiers in Ukraine basically murderers.

Which means Ukraine won't release its captured vatniks without reciprocal release from Russia. In almost any other war between "civilized" countries this would not even be a concern.

 

[Clownish]

A yearlong investigation by InsiderEng, 60Minutes and Derspiegel has uncovered evidence suggesting that Havana Syndrome may have its origin in the use of directed energy weapons wielded by the Russian GRU’s infamous Unit 29155.
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[Gog & Magog]

Does anyone know which Telegrams the Farmers in the Russian thread cite most often?

 

[World in Scarlet]

Does anyone know which Telegrams the Farmers in the Russian thread cite most often?

I skimmed back like a week and saw a single post that cited Russian telegrams, rybar and wargonzo specifically (weird since rybar was considered NATO propaganda a couple months ago when they reported on corruption and incompetence in Russia).
Aside from that it's one person who posts Russian news sometimes.
The rest is screenshots of what may or may not be real news articles, random nonsense, and western shills like Lord Bebo.

Due to this I think nobody there actually reads any Russian telegrams and the rybar post was chasing a reference in English language zigger media.

Quality schizophrenia:



Honorable mention for the ancient tradition of posting sources that directly contradict the claim/summary if you actually read them.

Quite impressive to be able to screengrab like two sentences and then claim they said the opposite of what is written without anyone pointing that out.
This stuff is quite common there, alongside stuff like saying Poland filing a complaint about Russian cruise missiles violating Polish air space is an indication of aggression by Poland..

If you want to see what's posted in Russian telegrams, here's some big ones:

Рыбарь

Любим Ближний Восток, Африку, глобализм, лоббизм, эстетику и гениальность. Вылавливаем интересную нам тему в море сырой информации. Обратная связь: бот @rybar_bot | почта vash_rybar@protonmail.com

t.me

WarGonzo

Субъективный взгляд на войну и оружие. Реклама и обратная связь @pegov_bot

t.me

https://t.me/dva_majors

https://t.me/RVvoenkor

https://t.me/epoddubny

https://t.me/milinfolive

https://t.me/Z13_Separ

https://t.me/voenkorKotenok

There's English language ones too:
https://t.me/intelslava (AKA Incel Slave Z)

https://t.me/rybar_eng

Bit of a random selection because telegram is bad for organizing channels.

 

[Gog & Magog]

I skimmed back like a week and saw a single post that cited Russian telegrams, rybar and wargonzo specifically (weird since rybar was considered NATO propaganda a couple months ago when they reported on corruption and incompetence in Russia).
Aside from that it's one person who posts Russian news sometimes.
The rest is screenshots of what may or may not be real news articles, random nonsense, and western shills like Lord Bebo.

Due to this I think nobody there actually reads any Russian telegrams and the rybar post was chasing a reference in English language zigger media.

Quality schizophrenia:
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Honorable mention for the ancient tradition of posting sources that directly contradict the claim/summary if you actually read them.
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Quite impressive to be able to screengrab like two sentences and then claim they said the opposite of what is written without anyone pointing that out.
This stuff is quite common there, alongside stuff like saying Poland filing a complaint about Russian cruise missiles violating Polish air space is an indication of aggression by Poland..

If you want to see what's posted in Russian telegrams, here's some big ones:

Рыбарь

Любим Ближний Восток, Африку, глобализм, лоббизм, эстетику и гениальность. Вылавливаем интересную нам тему в море сырой информации. Обратная связь: бот @rybar_bot | почта vash_rybar@protonmail.com

t.me

WarGonzo

Субъективный взгляд на войну и оружие. Реклама и обратная связь @pegov_bot

t.me

https://t.me/dva_majors

https://t.me/RVvoenkor

https://t.me/epoddubny

https://t.me/milinfolive

https://t.me/Z13_Separ

There's English language ones too:
https://t.me/intelslava (AKA Incel Slave Z)

https://t.me/rybar_eng

Bit of a random selection because telegram is bad for organizing channels.

Thank you.

 

[World in Scarlet]

Looking at a description of recent events in a Russian pro-Russian channel:

Briefly on the Donetsk direction as of the evening of 31 March 2024:

1. Novomikhailovka is going hard, but ours continue to press.
Assaults from day to day.

[...]

3. There were attempts in Georgievka, but the result is still unknown.
The enemy is trying to work with drones on the level.

4. It's still very difficult to move to Krasnogorovka itself, while we are expanding the approach by landings from the south.

[...]

6. Advancement in Pervomayskoye is encouraging, but losses are not encouraging.

7. From Tonenkoye, our attempts to break through to Umanskoye. Losses in manpower and equipment.
The situation is complicated, to put it mildly, by not the most competent command. The result is the main thing, what, by whom and how it was achieved, I don't care. The trouble is when the main incentive is the dream of a general's rank, and everything else, including saving people, takes a back seat. In any war, you can't clear minefields with units. For such a thing it is necessary not to promise ranks and, even more so, to give them, but to demote them.

8. Difficulties in the villages of Semenovka and Berdychi.

9. Abstracting from specific sites, we should understand that everyone makes mistakes, and we should admit it, sometimes taking into account other people's opinions. Unfortunately, there are many examples when the opposite situation is observed, and this is the case for the third year.

10. In any army it happens that a commander surrounds himself with sycophants, completely eliminates potential leaders in the officer corps, engages in arrogance, which leads to tragic situations, after which the blame is shifted to the extreme. And let anyone open his mouth, he will be immediately censured from everywhere, fall into disgrace, be destroyed as a witness to the madness. And now imagine if such a situation is possible in a particular unit/part/unit.

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Our local ziggers would rate this "Mad at the Internet" or "Autistic" and call him a NAFO tranny for writing that.


EDIT:

Ilustrative: Russian losses in the Avdiika direction:






I tried to screenshot around all the dead bodies, so the caps are only a selection of the losses.
Can't upload the video right now, so here's a catbox link you can watch in your browser.
Would be nice to be able to embed those since the video uploading has been broken for so long.
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Here's a video of the bomb dud at the end being hit by an FPV drone (nothing happens).

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[No. 7 cat]

The WaPo posted a good interview with Zelenskyy. In it he confirms that US officials asked Ukraine to stop the attacks against refineries.

These refineries either directly fuel or fund the war, even those facilities refining for the civil sector, while the US cannot supply anything much for now, altho higher octane refineries foe missiles or aircraft are too far east to hit now. Hopefully Ukraine politely ignores an unreasonable request (and seems to have). Russia's customers are increasingly its minor turd world clients, with even the pajeets not able to take Russian crude. Euros don't rely much on its natural gas too much now. Cheap Russuan gas was always a false economy promoted by gimps like Gerhard Schroeder.

 

[Fuck It We'll Do It Live]

Russia's customers are increasingly its minor turd world clients, with even the pajeets not able to take Russian crude.

>turd worlders are either pro-Russia or big brained neutrolers (i.e. still pro-Russia), with exceptions like Pakistan (Russia being, at least once, the biggest arms dealer for its rival India) and Sudan (due to Wagner backing RSF).
>turd worlders rely on Ukrainian grain lowering the overall price for global grain, even though Russia tried (and failed) at blockading Ukraine in the Black Sea. Hell, even Polish trucker righteoids did a better job at blocking Ukrainian grain.
>turd worlders now rely on Russian crude, with the overall higher crude prices going to hit them harder than for the West.
Almost like they need to learn lessons the hard way and ought to start to either support Ukraine or at least lobby Russia to deescalate its war. That, or force starvation and be removed from power by their angry populace.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

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I see this guy is doing all the same shit a lot of the internal Ukranian analysts I've watched since the beginning of the war are doing: Unironic "We need to kick Russia out of every square inch of our soil" and then instantly "You need to open your borders, USbros, what's the problem?"

Ain't the way, dipshits.

I've been saying "why not both?" since Day 4 of the 3-Day SMO.

Only caveat is the US border needs less military gear, less funding, and if anything less bureaucratic red tape and just to step the fuck back and let customs & US Border Patrol do their jobs.

Ziggerhordes running amok in Ukraine on the other head need actual tanks, artillery shells, fighter jets, artillery shells, anti-tank missiles, artillery shells, rocket artillery and more artillery shells to deal with.

 

[Fuck It We'll Do It Live]

Russian FPV chasing Ukrainian Mi-8:

Probably saved by the airflow of the Mi-8's rotary wings; as the drone was flying too low for a hit. Just like the time the Ukies stalked a Ka-52 with a FPV drone of their own:

 

[No. 7 cat]

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Ukrainian men taken prisoner in Kherson including the priest shown in the thumbnail endured sexual abuse from the Russians. I suppose it's Russia the place that leads the world in divorce, suicide, HIV, abortion, sexual exploitation, drug abuse, and the Russian Army itself has a culture of homosexual abuse, so that's as expected.

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[National Defense Advocate]

It's frankly confounding as to why US officials are stumbling over themselves to send Israel shit it doesn't even need, whereas Ukraine presents a genuine opportunity to completely dismantle Russian dreams of reuniting the USSR, having an oil rich nation indebted to you for its continued existence and cementing US influence in Eastern Europe and Johnson, who openly took donations from a Russian gas company can just shut it all down on a whim.

Support for Ukraine is literally one of the only issues that has massive bipartisan support, there was no vote on this, Johnson did this either because he was promised more money or he's part of that weird Christian death cult that permeates the older generation of American politicians.

I'm just tired of seeing our global position diminish because Republicans want to Trigger the Libs, Own the Libs.
We have a chance to help a real white, Christian nation but nope, Israel needs that ammo to blow up shitskins. Again.