RU Shooting and blast reported at concert hall near Moscow, Russian agencies say - ISIS Claims Responsibility

March 22 (Reuters) - Shooting broke out at a large concert hall near Moscow on Friday, Russian news agencies quoted emergency services as saying.



RIA news agency said at least three people in camouflage clothing had opened fire at the Crocus City Hall, and that some people had been wounded.

Police had arrived at the scene, RIA said.

Video footage published on Russian social media channels showed chaotic scenes, with a large crowd of concertgoers attempting to flee the hall, followed by gunshots.

Other video footage showed a number of people lying motionless in pools of blood outside the hall

Reuters was unable immediately to verify the footage.

TASS news agency reported an explosion and a fire in the building where the shooting took place.

The Kommersant newspaper posted footage online showing smoke billowing from what it said was the concert venue building.

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[Night Crawler]

I like how vatniggers keep saying the US CIA MI6 and Ukraine did it. You stupid niggers. The US is dumping weapons and money into Ukraine. They are already hurting Russia way more than any dune coon terrorist attack ever could. The same goes for Ukraine. They are already killing more Russians than any terrorist attack could ever achieve.

Putin is a Boomer dumb shit. LOL

 

[WE'RE ALL GONNA]

NYT (who are known to work with the glowies) says that US withheld info. The Kremlin spokesman was unaware which is frankly irrelevant.

US Withheld From Russia Intel On Terror Plot Due To 'Adversarial Relationship'​

The US did not share all the information it had about a terrorist plot in Russia ahead of the shooting at a concert hall outside of Moscow that killed over 140 people, The New York Times reported on Thursday.

The paper said that the "adversarial relationship between Washington and Moscow prevented US officials from sharing any information about the plot beyond what was necessary, out of fear Russian authorities might learn their intelligence sources or methods."

In response to the report, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said he was unaware of information about the US withholding intelligence and cast doubt on the report. "The information of The New York Times, citing sources, is information that should be treated with great caution," he said.

The US Embassy in Moscow issued a public warning on March 7 that specifically warned Americans in Russia that "extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow, to include concerts" and to avoid large gatherings for 48 hours.

The US also passed along the warning to Russia privately, which Russian FSB chief Aleksandr Bortnikov said was "of a general nature."

Sources told the Times that Russia tightened security after the warning but may have relaxed it after an attack didn’t happen in the 48-hour window. The report said it was unclear if US intelligence was wrong about the timing of the attack or if the perpetrators noticed the heightened security and decided to wait.

ISIS-K, the Islamic State affiliate based in Afghanistan, took credit for the massacre, and the US has backed their assertion. Russia has pinned the blame on "Islamist extremists" but has also said there is a link to Ukraine and, by extension, the US and the UK.


Both the US and Ukraine denied any involvement in the attack, but the Russian Investigative Committee said Thursday that the attackers had links to "Ukrainian nationalists." Four Tajiks have been charged in Russia for carrying out the shooting.

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You are truly a stupid fucking person.
How the fuck is someone going to prove the second point if the information is CLASSIFED, which it fucking will be.

Nigger how do you think this shit works, they post it publicly then have a press conference about how the US and Russia are going to stop a terrorist attack together.

They one hundred percent forwarded the information to them and then past that point it's the Russians job because it's their fucking country. I doubt Joe Biden was ordering the State department to make sure all these Russian pigs are killed. And if he was doing that why would they send out a fucking public warning.

Eat shit.

 

[Google.com]

Let's look at the full portion of the CIA times article that is referenced.

When it informed Russia privately about the potential terror plot, the C.I.A. was adhering to 2015 guidance known as “duty to warn” directives, requiring the intelligence establishment to inform “U.S. and non-U.S. persons” of specific threats aimed at “intentional killing, serious bodily injury and kidnapping.”

These directives are relatively rare, but the United States is obliged to issue them, even to adversaries, and has done so with both the Taliban in Afghanistan and the Iranian government in the past year. The warnings aren’t usually made public unless U.S. authorities think the threat could impact American citizens, which was the case in Moscow.

Mr. Putin, in both 2017 and 2019, thanked the U.S. government for providing information that had helped Russia foil terrorist attacks in St. Petersburg. But analysts say a similar gesture would be impossible in the acrimonious environment he has created since invading Ukraine.

"When it informed Russia privately about the potential terror plot"

"Mr. Putin, in both 2017 and 2019, thanked the U.S. government for providing information that had helped Russia foil terrorist attacks in St. Petersburg. But analysts say a similar gesture would be impossible in the acrimonious environment he has created since invading Ukraine."

The similar gesture being thanking them for helping.

 

[World in Scarlet]

NYT (who are known to work with the glowies) says that US withheld info. The Kremlin spokesman was unaware which is frankly irrelevant.

Zerohedge is slop for 50IQ cattle, congrats on taking their misleading headline at face value.
Here's your intellectual peers, bro.


The article it is citing is directly contradicting their interpretation and even the line they quote, which you apparently didn't read, contradicts their headline.

adversarial relationship between Washington and Moscow prevented US officials from sharing any information about the plot beyond what was necessary

Because Russia has declared the US an enemy and is acting against US interests across the world, information sharing did not include things that could compromise US sources. Tough shit. The US warned Russia and as a thanks the Russians blamed the US to cover up how shambolic even their state security is by now. Very third world behaviour.

People rightfully make fun of that American tranny larping on twitter, but ignore that that style of communication is identical to the output of the highest levels of government in Russia.
How anyone can look at this cringe nonsense and not feel embarrassed is beyond me.

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Are the people here who buy into that really so stupid that they find it non-credible that 5000 people were capable of equipping 4 terrorists with rusty AKs and sending them to shoot up a concert that had no security?
Look at the basic facts that you are being asked to believe here.

Here's an article going a bit into the background and expert opinions on IS-Russia relations.

 

[♦️ King of Diamonds ♦️]

When bin Laden wrote a letter to The Guardian in 2002 explaining why he was attacking us, he made it sound like he had reasons other than, "because you're not like me." Who knows, since he was a murderous nutcase, but it kind of sounded like if we had decided to cuck on a large scale and change everything he outlined, that he would no longer have reasons to attack us and he might stop. ISIS, on the other hand, is not like that. Existing on earth while not practicing the same insanity they do is reason enough for them to want to kill you.

Bin Laden more or less single-handedly won the War on Terror- aside from the whole "getting killed" part. He flat-out stated multiple times the entire purpose of 9/11 was to bait the US into numerous pointless, stupid, ungodly expensive quagmires in the Middle East to the point of bleeding the entire US war machine dry of so much blood and treasure it completely bankrupts the entire US, the American general public gets fed up, and the US stops sticking it's dick unwanted everywhere and Muslim countries in the Middle East can be left the fuck alone to their own devices. He, and the rest of Al Qaeda, kind of figured a Caliphate would naturally fall into place once the Muslim countries got their shit together afterwards so they didn't really make it a priority to push for.

He saw this exact same thing happen in front of his own, younger eyes on a limited scale to the Soviet Union in the 80's when he was volunteering for the anti-communist Afghan rebels at the time who later became the Taliban. The Soviet Union bankrupted itself in a pointless war in Afghanistan and quickly dissolved thereafter. Bin Laden had also extensively studied the Vietnam War and the US mistakes in that conflict (he had numerous Vietnam War analysis textbooks in his possession),.

He also extensively studied the rather impressive results of the (still ongoing at the time) Irish Republican Army's action during The Troubles- where the British Government were perfectly fine with thousands of innocent people being repeatedly shot and blown to smithereens over the course of decades, but came begging for negotiations and concessions to North Irish Catholics as soon as the IRA started deliberately bombing and targeting the headquarters of British financial institutions and banks to the point an ongoing campaign would have bankrupted the entire British Insurance Industry... in other words, "blood talks, money walks". He kind of figures targeting the World Trade Center specifically would replicate a similar effect.

Given the fact that the Global War On Terror cost over 25 Trillion Dollars and the US never regained the same level of economic prosperity it did before 9/11, cost millions of innocent lives, helped galvanize political polarization in the US to an extreme degree, discouraged younger generations from ever considering military service to the point it might bring back the draft, and ultimately resulted in the US Military- "LE GRATEST MILITARY FORCE EVARR!!!!! (TM)" tucking it's tail between it's legs and fleeing like a whimpering little schoolgirl from most of the Middle East I'd argue Al Qaeda de-facto won the Global War on Terror, even if the ultra-extreme ISIS rival managed to unseat them as the #1 Jihadist movement worldwide.

This image of Osama Bin Laden as some cave-dwelling goatfucker with missing teeth screaming gibberish and swinging around a rusty AK-47 is just drip-fed propaganda, like how Hitler is just depicted as the manifestation of Satan without any context as to his upbringing, nuanced views of things given his circumstances, and ultimate motivations for unspeakably horrible actions. Was he evil? ABSOLUTELY! Motherfucker killed god knows how many innocent people- but I wouldn't even really be inclined to call him a "nutcase". More just like a cold, calculating sociopathic murderer who believed any ends whatsoever justified the means of his twisted view of things.

 

[otherdispair]

This image of Osama Bin Laden as some cave-dwelling goatfucker with missing teeth screaming gibberish and swinging around a rusty AK-47 is just drip-fed propaganda

I would like to add to your excellent post that the senior leadership that Al Qaeda where all well educated men, more often than not in the exact sciences or the "harder" social ones like economics and most had studied at least for a while in the west.
You can't run an organization like that if you are some retard whose highest intellectual achievement is reading the quran real good like.

 

[Overly Serious]

He saw this exact same thing happen in front of his own, younger eyes on a limited scale to the Soviet Union in the 80's when he was volunteering for the anti-communist Afghan rebels at the time who later became the Taliban. The Soviet Union bankrupted itself in a pointless war in Afghanistan and quickly dissolved thereafter. Bin Laden had also extensively studied the Vietnam War and the US mistakes in that conflict (he had numerous Vietnam War analysis textbooks in his possession),.

Apropos to nothing, I was dating a Russian girl at the time the "War on Terror" was kicking off and I still distinctly remember her looking at me with big eyes and saying in the most earnest voice I ever heard: "Don't invade Afghanistan!"

I mean, I'd love to have listened, chica, but alas nobody asked me.

 

[Dick Mason]

the entire purpose of 9/11 was to bait the US into numerous pointless, stupid, ungodly expensive quagmires in the Middle East to the point of bleeding the entire US war machine dry of so much blood and treasure it completely bankrupts the entire US, the American general public gets fed up, and the US stops sticking it's dick unwanted everywhere and Muslim countries in the Middle East can be left the fuck alone to their own devices.

Looking back that sounds incredibly Jewish, especially since we know that those wars were not pointless. They were for Jewish conquest of not just the Middle East but of European nations as well, as they flooded migrants from their war-ravaged targets into the West as a form of punishment applied to their other enemies 'at home' (something they are still doing with Palestinians).

That sounds like the converse to 'they hate us for our freedoms' - something for university leftist types to chomp on to resist the evils of white supremacy. No more wars for oil! Buck Fush!

 

[World in Scarlet]

The perpetrators of the terrorist attack at Crocus City Hall could have had computer chips implanted in their brains to fully control their every action, Vladimir Ovchinsky, adviser to the Russian Interior Minister, said on Channel One.

The Russian Interior Ministry adviser pointed out that the results of the first expert examinations showed that the attackers were under the influence of a strong psychotropic substance, which, according to him, paralyses the will, allows you to control a person and disconnects emotions.

"There, most likely, psychotropic substances acted in a complex, neuropsychological this very same programming! And, perhaps, - it will be shown by the expertise - and chips were inserted!" - stated Vladimir Ovchinsky.

The officer explained that neurobiology already makes it possible to control a person. He cited as an example the experiment of American entrepreneur Elon Musk's company Neuralink with pigs, which were "made into humans" by implanting chips in their brains. In another study, a chip was implanted in a paralysed man.
[...]
"This is not some group of pseudo-ISIS! But a well-organised terrorist attack at the level of Western special services! Only they have such means of influencing people!" - Ovchinsky reported.
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[glass_houses]

People advocating for a Russian false flag operation: looks like you're back on.

 

[Gintoki's Sweet Tooth]

I like how vatniggers keep saying the US CIA MI6 and Ukraine did it. You stupid niggers.

Because the US has never ever lied about any military operations before, right? Why are people are always so eager to guzzle every load the US govt feeds them lol

 

[Dick Mason]

The perpetrators of the terrorist attack at Crocus City Hall could have had computer chips implanted in their brains to fully control their every action, Vladimir Ovchinsky, adviser to the Russian Interior Minister, said on Channel One.

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That is an admission. They have their own brain chips, so they're paranoid about enemies having them as well.

 

[World in Scarlet]

Because the US has never ever lied about any military operations before, right?

True, we should believe that the CIA implanted the terrorists with mind control chips and injected them with MKUltra drugs, to make them kill a bunch of Russian civilians.
Just because we have no evidence for that doesn't mean it didn't happen that way.

 

[Night Crawler]

Because the US has never ever lied about any military operations before, right? Why are people are always so eager to guzzle every load the US govt feeds them lol

So, the US won't give Ukraine F-16's or any of the other weapons it asked for but it will commit a terrorist attack in Russia through dune coon proxies and risk getting caught.

Makes total sense.

Vatnigger logic everyone. LOLOLOLOL

 

[Gintoki's Sweet Tooth]

So, the US won't give Ukraine F-16's or any of the other weapons it asked for but it will commit a terrorist attack in Russia through dune coon proxies and risk getting caught.

We've given Ukraine plenty. Ukraine is still losing and was always destined to lose. Keep defending your US overlords, bootlicker.

 

[Night Crawler]

We've given Ukraine plenty. Ukraine is still losing and was always destined to lose. Keep defending your US overlords, bootlicker.

I'm not even talking about Ukraine winning or loser you vatnigger dumb shit. LOL

I am just showing how retarded your vatnigger logic is. LOL

 

[dustbuster]

So, the US won't give Ukraine F-16's or any of the other weapons it asked for but it will commit a terrorist attack in Russia through dune coon proxies and risk getting caught.

Hey remember when Russia "destroyed their own pipeline"?

 

[DumbDude43]

Because the US has never ever lied about any military operations before, right? Why are people are always so eager to guzzle every load the US govt feeds them lol

because "murder a bunch of random civilians in moscow" is not the kind of operation that the burger army or the burger glowies can get behind.

if we were looking at an attempted color revolution or arab spring style retard uprising, or even a bay of pigs style covert invasion/coup attempt, then it would make sense to blame the amerimutts. but this just isn't it.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

We've given Ukraine plenty. Ukraine is still losing and was always destined to lose. Keep defending your US overlords, bootlicker.

The important thing is that Russia is also losing and probably by more.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

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Looking back that sounds incredibly Jewish, especially since we know that those wars were not pointless. They were for Jewish conquest of not just the Middle East but of European nations as well, as they flooded migrants from their war-ravaged targets into the West as a form of punishment applied to their other enemies 'at home' (something they are still doing with Palestinians).

That sounds like the converse to 'they hate us for our freedoms' - something for university leftist types to chomp on to resist the evils of white supremacy. No more wars for oil! Buck Fush!

Greater Israel is a commie propaganda piece. To think the Jews would be retarded enough to nuke themselves for some sand and rock wastelands the amount of half of Saud, Iraq, a bit Egypt and the shitfuck assdick that is Syria, all filled with homicidal psychopath muslims who want to eradicate Jews 24/7.