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Somewhere between "as carcinogenic as anything these days" and "highly".
You should absolutely take more precautions because the jury is still out on how fucked you are by breathing in the fumes so you should assume the worst.
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- Thread starter Great Unclean Chris
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I almost want to recommend tracking down readings of the All Guardsmans Party but last I checked
a) shoggy is still a lazy bastard and hasn't gotten to oaks trial yet
b) the only up to date reading is in tts
d) the guy who had the farthest along natural reading of it literally trooned out and stopped making videos
e) most readings end around bane johns
Lots of people do, and having a natural tremor when dealing with tiny stuff isn't even particularly uncommon(it becomes really obvious for a lot of people when trying to use high magnification binoculars and shit like that). That said, as long as you aren't full Michael J Fox status, it actually is possible with practice and techniques to get over it quite a bit. This guy's youtube channel, he covers terrain and mini painting, the MS stands for Multiple Sclerosis(along with having decent video production value to show wtf he's doing since his day job is apparently professional video production).
He doesn't go over it in every single video obviously, but there are things like... if you really have some motor problems, don't pick something like Chaos Space Marines with their tiny trim everywhere. Learning how to actually sit at the table and prop your arms/elbows/wrists for maximum stability, simply accepting that some days are going to be better than others for painting, and so on. It does work, and it is possible to get better over time even if you've got the opposite of natural talent.
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Different resins have different degrees of toxicity. I've never had issues with breathing irritation but I can attest to what handling resin without gloves for prolonged periods does.
My fingertips started to get little pinpoint bruises all over them. It started out small at first but after a couple weeks, it looked like I'd smashed my fingertips with hammers. No pain though. The bruising subsided a couple weeks later, and then the skin on my fingertips started sluffing off. I went to the doctor and they couldn't figure out what the problem was and thought it was a skin condition and gave me a topical steroid and anti-fungal. It did nothing, and I had to wear nitrile gloves at work for a while to keep from injuring my extremely sensitive fingers.
I was wearing gloves while handling wet resin but was bare handing everything after the washing process. Once I decided to start wearing gloves for post processing, my fingers started to heal. My hands were fucked up for about 4 months and it happened about a year ago.
Wear gloves at all times until the model is at least primed. Some of the resins I used to use didn't cause any issues, but the one I use now does.
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I use music that’s adjacent to what I’m painting, for my EC I’ve been cooking up a lovely mix of metal, rock and 80s power tracks (Push it to the Limit) it helps focus the mind on what’s being worked on and eliminated outside distractions.
If your mind is thinking about what your working on then you stop thinking in the “Fuck, twenty more to go” mindset that leads to burn out. Audio books are also good if you’re not a music type
Art is another good tool to help, that’s how I gradually built talent and get inspiration , this all helped me go from struggling with Death Guard models to adding more trim to CSM.
I can’t speak for the physical aspect but for me it was all about focusing the mind, getting confidence and building my style.
Belisarius Cawl
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Actually, something else regarding painting standards(and how ridiculous the internet makes mini painters out to be at times while ignoring the context of someone doing that as their hobby 20+ hours a week for the past 3 decades). Take a trip to your local game store on a busy night for warhammer(call them up and ask if they've got any 40k open play days on their calendar or whatever, age of sigmar works for this too). Stop by, browse around, check out people's paintjobs. You'll notice that probably half of them look totally fucked from 3 feet away, and would look like total trash if you had then 3 inches in front of a camera blown up on a 34" monitor. Every local game store is going to have those 1 or 2 guys who have been doing the shit for decades and their minis look immaculate, but that's not what most peoples armies actually look like.
Same goes for people on youtube, they've either got a day job and been doing it for decades(Vince Venturella would be a good example of this, his channel is also great for learning how to do a lot of things), or they're basically professional painters who have been doing it for 60 hours a week for the past couple years making youtube content and not even playing the game, having a fully painted army, etc.(Dana Howl, Goobertown Hobbies, Squidmar, Midwinter Minis, and so on). You can't look at someone winning a painting competition and forget that they probably spent 100-200 hours on that particular mini alone, and that even they would never attempt to paint an entire tyranid army or whatever to that same standard(since it would never get done).
Belisarius Cawl
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Well that's another impediment: we haven't got one here. I'd be learning this stuff just for my minis to sit on a shelf most of the time.
I can really see getting into the EC mood like this:
Well, if you wouldn't be playing, there are people who are purely into the lore and painting. You can think of it like... a 3d coloring book maybe? If you aren't going to be playing 40k, but read a book and have a favorite scene from it you could pick up some minis off of ebay, strip the paint, and make yourself a little diorama of it. It's just a nerd version of doing a ship in a bottle at that point, and then you can take the time to do that 100+ hour paintjob.
There's certainly a lot worse shit we could all be wasting time and money on afterall. Also, regarding EC, Van Halen, and Noise Marines being EC...
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My EC are more Rob and yes, there are way worse things we could be spending coin on.
But at the end of the day, I’m a grown man and if I want a dumb thing then so be it, it’s my gods-given fucking right, it’s better than booze and honoring Slaanesh IRL.
And there are models for people who don’t play, obviously don’t start with them but them big fuckers like Primarchs, named characters with scenic bases and the like are intended to double as display pieces.
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Belisarius Cawl
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Right now my main creative outlet is programming. The thing I like to say about the tremors is that, when you're writing a program and flub a key (and my typing is usually accurate but not fast), there's always Backspace. I also like to delegate visual stuff to others. I don't really do graphic design so I come up with very basic styling using Bootstrap for front-end stuff. Also I like using statistical software called R for visualization because a lot of the defaults with the plotting software that you can get with it have good defaults or at least make an appealing outcome that's easy to interpret easy to achieve and I don't have to think much about it. Again in another instance I like using typesetting software called LaTeX to make documents because outside of genuinely fugly shit like drawing red boxes around links by default a lot of things are squared away and I can focus on the structure of the document itself. I'm sorry if you aren't familiar with that sort of 'tism but basically what I'm trying to say, based on my current experience, I'm not sure painting minis is for me. I really like looking at others' minis when they use all kinds of crazy refinement techniques to get the desired finished product and perhaps that's intimidating in a way. Even so...
Plus being a lore-focused guy has a very appealing price tag.
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To each their own
Enjoy
Belisarius Cawl
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I like how the artist who drew Horus in this picture depicted him as bald initially, then with hair during the Heresy, then presumably the malign influence of Khorne made him seethe and mald, regressing into becoming Chaos Steve Wilkos:
(EDIT: the voice of the Techpriest in the second video is fucking sick)
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I like the idea that having to tard-wrangle every brother who wasn’t named Perturabo or Mortarion is what caused his not by choice baldness.
Angron had to be locked up by his own men, Lorgar wanted to be the quarterback, Magnus was never on their side to begin with, Alpharius was running amok, Fulgrim LEFT and Kurze got spaced.
I still remember when he casually shit-talked Kurze to baseline mortals in the initial three books.
Belisarius Cawl
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He should have put on Heath Ledger Joker makeup, forced Curze to try to intimidate him into compliance, then had a heroin overdose
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Weren't his strategies so bloody that whatever engagement he was in his legion would suffer catastrophic casualties
Partially him not giving a shit, partially him believing he was getting the short end of the stick with the shittiest jobs compared to Rogal Dorn hence his jealousy of Dorn.
Even Perturabo eventually got fed up and left early. Got sick of Abaddon wanting to do dumb shit(eventually let him use a rejected plan after warning him he had rejected it, so he got a bunch of sons of horus dead in a fucking glue trap), couldn't get any communication with Horus other than "I'm letting Mortarion have a turn" who just got himself banished by the khan of all people, all while Horus was just sitting around high out of his mind on warp peyote and not even attempting to give perturabo a clue that he had a trap planned for the emperor and didn't intend on just kicking in the door of the throne room.
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He actually shit-talked Pert when he was deploying the Death Guard against the Scars, during the Heresy, Mortarion was Horus’s #1 brother.
“Perturabo, by the gods, Perturabo, the Khan’s savages would run circles around his emplacements.”
Pert’s breaking point was pretty much Horus benching him and putting his guy in (Morty) and then ordering him to disperse his legion to reinforce the others.
The reality is, they couldn't make Horus and pals hyper competent, otherwise it wouldn't make sense for them to have lost the whole heresy thing. But because GW insisted on writing the HH series and siege of terra filling in details, you end up with Horus being a tard wrangler who ultimately fails and makes the whole thing look dumb from their perspective at the end.
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To be fair, its not like it would have ended any other way. Half of Horus' job in the Great Crusade before his treason was tard wrangling his brothers, and considering he only got the maladapted ones on his side it becoming a full time job is the expected outcome. Shit, the whole reason the Imperium had any time at all to prepare is because Horus and the bulk of his forces were fucking around on Istvaan III after Angron decided to combat drop on the last few survivors because his ego wouldn't let him admit Angron was fucking things up for him.
EDIT: The EC being absolutely fucking worthless during the Siege of Terra thanks to them doing nothing but running around and liquifying civilians into recreational substances is old, old lore, as well as other various fuckups by the Traitors.
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