War The Army Has Finally Fielded Its Next Generation Squad Weapons - bringing an end to the service's decades-long effort to replace its M4 and M16 family

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The Army has officially fielded its brand-new Next Generation Squad Weapon rifles to its first unit, bringing an end to the service's decades-long effort to replace its M4 and M16 family of military firearms.

Army Futures Command announced Thursday that soldiers from 1st Battalion, 506th Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division, at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, accepted delivery of the XM7 Next Generation Rifle and XM250 Next Generation Automatic Rifle ahead of training in April.

Produced by firearm maker Sig Sauer, the XM7 is intended to replace the M4 carbine in close combat formations, while the XM250 will replace the M249 Squad Automatic Weapon, or SAW. Both new rifles are chambered in 6.8 mm to provide improved range and lethality against enemy body armor.

The Next Generation Squad Weapon series also includes the XM157 Fire Control smart scope, built by Vortex Optics, which integrates advanced technologies such as a laser range finder, ballistic calculator and digital display overlay into a next-generation rifle optic.

The fielding "is a culmination of a comprehensive and rigorous process of design, testing and feedback, all of which were led by soldiers," Col. Jason Bohannon, manager of soldier lethality for the Program Executive Office Soldier project, said in a statement. "As a result, the Army is delivering on its promise to deliver to soldiers the highest-quality, most-capable small-caliber weapons and ammunition."

Based on Sig Sauer's MCX-Spear rifle, the XM7 features a 13-inch barrel, both standard and left-side non-reciprocating charging handles, a collapsible buttstock, a free-floating reinforced M-LOK handguard, and AR-style ergonomics. The XM250, based on Sig's LMG 6.8 mm machine gun, features quick-detach magazines and increased M1913 rail space. Both weapons come with Sig Sauer suppressors designed to reduce the blowback from toxic fumes.

Soldiers should know that the XM7 is noticeably heavier than the M4 carbine -- 9.8 pounds suppressed in a basic combat load compared to the M4's 7.4-pound combat load, per the Army -- and delivers increased recoil compared to the M4 on par with a weapon system chambered in 7.62 mm, according to Sig Sauer officials.

According to the Army's fiscal 2025 budget request, the service has a long-term plan of buying 111,428 XM7 rifles, 13,334 XM250 automatic rifles, and 124,749 XM157 Fire Control devices stretching into the 2030s.

The XM7 and XM250 "ensure increased lethality against a broad spectrum of targets beyond current/legacy weapon capabilities; increased range, accuracy, and probability of hit; reduced engagement time; suppressed flash/sound signature; and improved controllability and mobility," the Army's budget says.

The service has been pushing for a new family of infantry rifles since the mid-1980s when it kicked off the Advanced Combat Rifle, or ACR, program to identify a replacement for the M16 family of assault rifles. The canceled ACR program was followed by the XM29 Objective Individual Combat Weapon program in the 1990s and the XM8 assault rifle effort of the early 2000s, both of which were also abandoned.

The M4/M16 replacement effort took on new urgency during the war in Afghanistan, where American soldiers found that the M16 family of rifles and their standard-issue 5.56 mm ammunition -- designed for the close-quarters combat of Vietnam and well-suited for urban warfare during the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq -- proved ineffective against Afghan insurgents engaged at longer distances amid the country's mountainous terrain, as The Associated Press reported in 2010.

That issue led to the 2010 fielding of the upgraded 5.56 mm cartridge, the M855A1 Enhanced Performance Round, as a temporary solution to bolster U.S. troops' lethality in Afghanistan. Eventually, the Defense Department's 2017 Small Arms Ammunition Configuration Study determined that an intermediate 6.8 mm cartridge would likely outperform both standard-issue 5.56 mm and 7.62 mm rounds, inducing the Army to establish the Next Generation Squad Weapon program in 2018 to replace both the M4 carbine and the M249 in its arsenal.

From there, the Army selected three gunmakers to furnish the service with prototypes of the NGSW-Rifle (the M4 replacement) and the NGSW-Automatic Rifle (the M249 replacement): General Dynamics-OTS Inc., AAI Corporation Textron Systems and Sig Sauer, the last of which had won the Army's Modular Handgun System program contract in 2017 to replace the M9 Beretta across every service in the U.S. armed forces.

Sig Sauer eventually clinched the contract in 2022. Since then, the Army has been conducting ongoing user testing on the rifles, putting them through their paces in extreme environments. In late March, days before revealing the initial fielding to 1st Battalion, 506th Infantry Regiment, the service announced plans to build a 6.8 mm ammunition plant in Missouri to support the proliferation of the weapons across the force.

According to the Army, soldiers have spent more than 25,000 hours testing the next-gen weapons from initial development to fielding.

"The process of developing and fielding new equipment is never without challenges and setbacks and speed bumps, so we're celebrating the fact that we're delivering on schedule, as promised," Lt. Col. Mark Vidotto, the program lead for the Soldier Lethality Cross-Functional Team at Fort Moore, Georgia, said in a statement.
 
The XM7 is a pretty good rifle. Forgotten Weapons did a video on it a while back and came to the conclusion that it was a pretty good choice for the army to make. The short stroke piston system will eliminate all of the DI fouling issues that AR pattern rifles have had for their entire service life, and the choice to go to 6.8 shows that the military is finally interested in intellectually moving forward from the cold war.
He also said it didn’t make total sense as the standard rifle, because the weight of the rifle and ammunition is so high. The optic is what really justifies the program, because it apparently massively increases hit probability.

Without the optic it’s just a shorter in length equivalent to a .308 cartridge type rifle that can use a suppressor constantly.

It wouldn’t be great for domestic operations either, because they can’t make enough ammo for it and it’s all made by one company anyway lol.
 
And Sig’s QC has gone down since they moved since they moved the main plant to East Germany according to a dealer I know.
Their output went down as soon as they got the contract, which was the hilarious part.

Another reason the rollout is fairly small, all things considered.

Cute anecdote time: In 1990/1991 the US Army was still transitioning from the .45 to the 9mm. When the massive ordnance movement from Western Europe to Saudi Arabia happened in October 1990, the majority of the pistol ammunition was .45 coming out of West Germany. The stuff from stateside had 9mm in there. Problem was, over 1/2 the units stateside were still carrying the .45, and most of the units from Western Europe still had the .45 (which was still being argued as superior for the European Theater). That meant for about 3 months the 9mm was considered a priority round, given out only to Special Forces, Combat Arms. Ordnance Command, in its endless wisdom, stopped all shipments of .45 because 9mm was priority. By December, there wasn't any .45 to be found at Log Base Echo or Log Base Alpha. Which meant a lot of units arriving didn't have ammo for their pistols.

The Army's fix?

Shipped a BUTTLOAD of 9mms to Log Base Echo.

"Need pistol ammo? Bring in your .45, get a new 9mm and 200 rounds of ammo FREE!"

They actually had that shit on AFN for like 3 weeks. New units arriving at the Docks were told to turn in their .45s and get free 9mms.

We just tossed that shit in a hole and forgot about it. (Some of us kept 1 or 2 for fun)

After the war, the real hilarity ensued.

When the units got back, the Bush Admin was doing a drawdown, closing units. When you close a unit, you do a full equipment accountability.

These units still had the .45s that had been destroyed on the ground on their equipment lists. Not 9mms.

That shit took a DoA directive to solve.

It was fucking hilarious.

I expect the new rifle rollout to be just as fucking Clown World.
 
It wouldn’t be great for domestic operations either, because they can’t make enough ammo for it and it’s all made by one company anyway lol.
The buy-in from the military will compel other ammo manufacturers to spin up 6.8 lines. Same thing as when Ruger put out a 5.7 pistol, leading to a bunch of 5.7 pistol clones, and then suddenly every ammo company was spinning up their own 5.7 manufacturing lines.
 
Holy hell it must be a great life to be friends with the Sig Sauer and pentagon people. Just free money, every day.

When do our troops start looking more like the GDI infantry from tiberian sun?
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Holy hell it must be a great life to be friends with the Sig Sauer and pentagon people. Just free money, every day.

When do our troops start looking more like the GDI infantry from tiberian sun?
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Given the dystopia the US and western "allies" are, they should be wearing helldiver outfits

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Its a clusterfuck and thats a good thing. Please continue the adoption of heaver rifles and heaver ammo that takes up more space and wears out barrels faster. Use less powerful training ammo or simply have soldiers shoot less in training to mitigate the barrels wearing out. Bandaid worse training and marksmanship by adopting a heavy wonder-optic combining 8-10 features that already eat batteries as separate units(they claim "weeks" of battery life off of 2 cr123as). Probably end up relying on the people you supposedly built the system to kill, China and Russia, to provide the materials for batteries these things will eat by the boatload. All while recruiting in in the shitter and the zoomers who do sign up bring a laundry list of health issues.
 
I love how the standard configuration for this is 13" and suppressed.

Lawfare against the NFA can't move quickly enough.
You don't get more "in common use" than standard issue per infantry man.
The rifle has to be suppressed to be shootable.

The round has similar energy to a .300 win mag.

This program is a disaster brought on by Mark "White Rage" Milley because he bought some bullshit about Russian and Chinese troops getting mass issued Level 4 body armor..... Yeah ok.

The only good part of the program is the Vortex sight that is really REALLY cool and makes getting his on man sized targets at 500 meters dead simple.

The M16 should have been modernized like how the Canadians upped the C7A1 to the C7A2.

Give it an adjustable buttstock.

IIRC it's chambered in 5.56.

Unless the USMC adopts it, it will be limited use since the public isn't in the mood for another 20 year war.

Plus I would not trust any product fron today's D.I.E design teams.

The operating principle of the XM7 is a normal short stroke gas piston.

USMC already got a new rifle 10 years ago.

Also I can't stand rifles that are all desert/tan colored

You don't like Peanut butter rifles???

This looks like the generic tactiool slop you use in a Call of Duty game at level 1 before you earn Create a Class, at which point you switch out to something better immediately.
I hope these are more impressive internally than they are looking from the outside. I fail to see why an M4 needs a massive re-work, you would think the HK416 would be accepted instead.
Actually, I just looked it up, they have already
This is what they give to the Marines, and the article states that these guns are given to the Army. How many different M4 clones do we need in our armed forces, again?

ENOUGH to keep H&K in business selling overpriced guns to the Marines because a USMC officer was given a cushy job at H&K to shill for the rifle.

My LGS has one, they look stupid with all the skeletizing and the thing still manages to outweigh a SCAR. Why they didn't just go back to AR10's is beyond me.

Because MUH GAS PISTON RELIABILITY

Finally and... 6.8mm too! FINALLY learned their lesson. A happy medium between 7.62 and 5.56. At least it's not another of the latter.

Wait, the LMG is 6.8mm too?! Oof

It sure took them long enough though.. How many times have they got weapons that meet their requirements, after years funding them, just to cancel them out of nowhere. It happened at least 3-4 times that i can remember. Which makes me wonder what the catch is to getting everyone to sign off.

Going to hold judgement on it's quality and usefulness for now though. Going to have to read up. Not a fan of the color or look. They look big too.
Looking this up.. Oof if true:



How the hell did they manage that? Weight was supposedly one of key stats they were aiming for? The SCAR would have been much better, and they would have had the choice of ammo to fit circumstances.

The .277 round (6.8x51mm) has retarded chamber pressure, think .300 Win Mag. It needs a beefy chamber and barrel.

Also, only holds 20 rounds a magazine.

The round is so hot it's estimated that I'll burn out barrels before 15k rounds. It's said to be Extremely unpleasant to shoot the rifle and MG without a suppressor.

The XM7 is a pretty good rifle. Forgotten Weapons did a video on it a while back and came to the conclusion that it was a pretty good choice for the army to make. The short stroke piston system will eliminate all of the DI fouling issues that AR pattern rifles have had for their entire service life, and the choice to go to 6.8 shows that the military is finally interested in intellectually moving forward from the cold war.

From a mechanical perspective it's good, it's a short stroke piston rifle with AR controls and a nifty stock.

Honestly a version on 5.56mm (Spear MCX lt) is probably as good as any potential M4A1 replacement could get at the moment.

5. In 2022, Russia invades Ukraine. Not only do Russian troops not have Ratnik-3 powered exoskeletons, they only rarely have any body armor at all. Soldiers are sent to the front line without so much as a cheap holosun red dot on their AK. Reports come out showing that Ratnik-3 was little more than a motorcycle suit with foam padding glued on. China has still yet to provide ground troops with any body armor at all, and their new rifles are shown to keyhole at 10 yards.

The XM7 continues the United States' proud tradition of jumping at shadows so hard that they create military hardware that outclasses the rest of the world for the next three generations (our last great example being the F-15, also developed in response to Russian bullshit

Ahaha yep. People were SHOCKED that the Chinese and Russian militaries weren't giving their troops US quality gear or better.

Fwiw the Chinese keyhole thing was caused by rubber bullets. That Rifle isn't in general issue either.

OH, wow, another weapon.

Well, let me check something.

What's that? The Biden administration doesn't have the ammo plant up? Well, when's it scheduled to open? Oh, it's estimated that it'll put out 15K rounds a month? When's it open?

TBD?

Oh. Well... I'm sure that won't be a problem. How about Sig, what's their plant's capacity?

What's that? It takes them 3 months to put out 100K rounds according to unclassified data?

Oh, well, I'm sure that's all the military needs, right?

How about that Texas plant?

Oh, wasn't given certification by the Biden Administration?

Yup, here we go.

Another fucking logistical shit-show.

By some of the estimates I've seen, it'll take 5-10 years for Class-V stocks to reach good enough saturation to trust the rifle to be fielded in large quantities.

While it's great at cracking body armor at 500m, the M4 will still be retained, according to what I've been reading. The M249 SAW and the M4 will still remain in service as well as remain in armories at a Brigade or Regimental level to allow the military to grab whatever they need.

This should be positively hilarious.

Yep, even then the Army is saying the XM7/250 will only go to the Rangers and 101st and 82nd Airborne and I think 10th Mountain and that's IT.

This rifle and GPMG are going to be... Rare and not issued. Especially when women soldiers can barely shoulder them.

More because of combat experience in Afghanistan. Otherwise a smaller, faster round would have been chosen, like the Russians have done as well as the 4.7 round.
The .277 Fury aka 6.8x51mm was designed to punch through body armor. It happens to go VERY fast as well.

If you want a VERY flat shooting round out of an AR 6mm ARC or 6.5 Creedmore has you covered.

Russia seems happy with 5.45 and 7.62x39

And Sig’s QC has gone down since they moved the main plant to East Germany according to a dealer I know.
The XM7 and other US military firearms are Made in the USA at SIG USA facilities, as are a LOT of SIG products sold in the USA.
 
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We soft-rebooted the M14! and I am still mad that it isn't the Textron Rifle
I don't mind LMG, and the rifle was the safest option of the finalists (would make a great DMR when we re-adopt another AR rifle). However, what the concept turned into is a step backwards honestly.
It would have made more sense if it was a rifle and cartridge with similar weight but better ballistics. Now we have a heavier rifle, ammo, and only has the advantage of being able to pierce the SPOOKY lvl4 body armor that evert soldier no doubt will be wearing in the next conflict. This feels like it was only adopted because the boomers crying for the US for re-adopt a battle rifle because of fighting in Afghanistan and fears over body armor.
They are clearly banking off the optic alone to make up for the extreme disadvantages. It is kind of sad that we not only can't innovate anymore, but also don't have people in the army to wrangle idiots just enough so we don't adopt something this retarded as a standard rifle.
 
Mark "White Rage" Milley because he bought some bullshit about Russian and Chinese troops getting mass issued Level 4 body armor..... Yeah ok.

You mean that's his public story.
Meanwhile he knows Appalachian White Men are able to buy AR-500 plates for less than a load of groceries.
We know his reason for this program (though that rock bottom cost for good enough plates does extend to towel heads)
 
The Next Generation Squad Weapon series also includes the XM157 Fire Control smart scope, built by Vortex Optics, which integrates advanced technologies such as a laser range finder, ballistic calculator and digital display overlay into a next-generation rifle optic.

Greater complexity of any given weapons system introduces additional variables leading to likely (some would say eventual) failure of that system under combat conditions. An airburst EMP, for example, will instantly negate any digital device within range, and then it's back to fucking iron sights and Kentucky windage, for which Private John or Jane Doe has not been trained.

I cross-trained on the Soviet AK series back in the day. You could take an AK-74, remove the bolt, roll the bolt in the sand, and then reinsert the bolt and fire that reasonably accurate weapon without a single FTF. That to me is a good combat rifle. Over-reliance on overly complicated platforms is a recipe for disaster.

Personally, all I ask of a firearm is reliability, simplicity, and relative ease of use. Granted, I'm now a civilian so my primary focus is individual self-defense. Unlike a soldier, I'm not out to take an objective. I just want a way to get home to my family alive.
 
They are clearly banking off the optic alone to make up for the extreme disadvantages. It is kind of sad that we not only can't innovate anymore, but also don't have people in the army to wrangle idiots just enough so we don't adopt something this retarded as a standard rifle.

Optics like usually involve the "eye relief" meme and all that stuff when magnification is thrown in.

Though I was watching a video that the 9 Hole Asian guy did with the M16A4 with the carry handle.

He was impressed that that carry handle still gets the job done despite being heavy.
 
The Ukraine war has shown that artillery and drones are the big killer.

I believe this is correct. To deal with drones they really need to have a HERF weapon that can send out electromagnetic pulses. That's a tough nut to crack.

(they claim "weeks" of battery life off of 2 cr123as)

They actually believe that?
 
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Greater complexity of any given weapons system introduces additional variables leading to likely (some would say eventual) failure of that system under combat conditions. An airburst EMP, for example, will instantly negate any digital device within range, and then it's back to fucking iron sights and Kentucky windage, for which Private John or Jane Doe has not been trained.

I cross-trained on the Soviet AK series back in the day. You could take an AK-74, remove the bolt, roll the bolt in the sand, and then reinsert the bolt and fire that reasonably accurate weapon without a single FTF. That to me is a good combat rifle. Over-reliance on overly complicated platforms is a recipe for disaster.

Personally, all I ask of a firearm is reliability, simplicity, and relative ease of use. Granted, I'm now a civilian so my primary focus is individual self-defense. Unlike a soldier, I'm not out to take an objective. I just want a way to get home to my family alive.

The XM7 is a pretty "normal" short stroke piston driven rifle when you strip away the new round and the sight.

Nothing weird there.

The sights are flip up/down irons and the sight is in a QD mount so you can dump it if need be in a few seconds.

Also, the sight is a LPVO with an etched reticle, so the reticle with mils for holds and ranging are always there, even if the LED inside to make it glow red is dead.

That said, it's a little computer that needs power to work to do it's auto range/auto points of aim feature.

 
I cross-trained on the Soviet AK series back in the day. You could take an AK-74, remove the bolt, roll the bolt in the sand, and then reinsert the bolt and fire that reasonably accurate weapon without a single FTF. That to me is a good combat rifle. Over-reliance on overly complicated platforms is a recipe for disaster.
Over complicated shit is what keeps the general's buddies at the weapon factories happy. The Marine Corps started using ACOGs at the rifle range, even their "Every Marine a Rifleman" isn't gonna fucking cut it, when only a few non-03s are able to shoot iron sights. And I can't wait for when this new toy has too many rounds through it and the suppressor stops functioning properly; hope you don't mind the feeling of a car engine back-firing into your face every time you pull the trigger.
 
I believe this is correct. To deal with drones they really need to have a HERF weapon that can send out electromagnetic pulses. That's a tough nut to crack.
That’s the difference between the approach of the different armies.

US Army: “We need a HERF weapon to combat drones! Here’s a 300 million check to Raytheon for a three year program! And a 50 million dollar grant to basic research into drone warfare!”

Russian Army: “Ivan? We need 20.000 shotguns. Half next week, the other half in two weeks.”


As for HERF weapons, I do believe a simple faraday cage would protect against those, no? Would also need power which can be a problem. Something simple: Shotgun maybe with an acoustic sounding system (which the Russians are developing) or maybe basic radar would probably be a better solution.

We will see: They’re already fielding weapons in this war that didn’t even exist when it started.

Greater complexity of any given weapons system introduces additional variables leading to likely (some would say eventual) failure of that system under combat conditions. An airburst EMP, for example, will instantly negate any digital device within range, and then it's back to fucking iron sights and Kentucky windage, for which Private John or Jane Doe has not been trained.

I cross-trained on the Soviet AK series back in the day. You could take an AK-74, remove the bolt, roll the bolt in the sand, and then reinsert the bolt and fire that reasonably accurate weapon without a single FTF. That to me is a good combat rifle. Over-reliance on overly complicated platforms is a recipe for disaster.

Personally, all I ask of a firearm is reliability, simplicity, and relative ease of use. Granted, I'm now a civilian so my primary focus is individual self-defense. Unlike a soldier, I'm not out to take an objective. I just want a way to get home to my family alive.
Facts.

Something like this gun or even the fancy HK413 might be fine for the special forces. But for regular grunts, a better solution would really be to take something like the AK, and make a polished version of it. Kinda like the newer AKs or a Finnish Valmet.
 
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