Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[sallowhal]

The take is that no woman should advance in any field because people like Justin Roiland specifically selected unqualified women to facilitate an environment where sexual misconduct would be accepted? It took misconduct by both men and women to create that environment but only women should be excluded as a consequence of it...?

the take is that if a man has two fucking brain cells to rub together, he won't try to mentor a woman he is not married to or blood related to. you've agreed with my previous posts stating this exact thing, why are you suddenly negrating me and acting like i'm changing my point?

mike pence rule. period. if it hurts women professionally, that's a small price to pay (and a whole lot of not my fucking business). avoid the appearance of evil and don't give people any excuse to look at you sideways. simple.

 

[Popper Whiting]

Now we have comicsgate losers on one side and SJWs on the other playing tug of war with his still warm corpse.

You also have Ethan Van Scriver tugging himself over that corpse as the idea of making it about him whilst making shekels makes him coom.

 

[Chazzed Up]

the take is that if a man has two fucking brain cells to rub together, he won't try to mentor a woman he is not married to or blood related to. you've agreed with my previous posts stating this exact thing, why are you suddenly negrating me and acting like i'm changing my point?

mike pence rule. period. if it hurts women professionally, that's a small price to pay (and a whole lot of not my fucking business). avoid the appearance of evil and don't give people any excuse to look at you sideways. simple.

I agreed with personal casting couch 'mentorship' being inappropriate, but I said in multiple posts that there's no reason why a male can't be a mentor to a female in a coach/teacher capacity. There's an obvious difference between a superior giving a subordinate constructive feedback on how they are performing in their position, and having a secretive 'mentorship' relationship that clearly crosses personal lines and involves unprofessional conduct. A mentor at work and a mentor in DMs with a stranger is not the same thing and it's only the same thing if you're coming from some trad larp angle.

 

[Super An Hero]

"I was so sad and lonely during covid I just had to talk to a 17 year old girl on Instagram". Lmfao rest in piss.

If you still do this shit in current year and especially as a public figure then you deserve everything that's coming to you.

He's employing the MiniLadd defense. It's a textbook groomer tactic.

mike pence rule. period. if it hurts women professionally, that's a small price to pay (and a whole lot of not my fucking business). avoid the appearance of evil and don't give people any excuse to look at you sideways. simple.

In the post metoo era Mike Pence rule is something that should be taught in school. Any appearance of sexual impropriety is enough to get yourself doxed and your life ruined. It's the way the world is now and we have to adapt to it.

 

[Carnavoyeur]

You have to understand, women are being told from an early age that they have the right to never experience an unwanted or uncomfortable interaction with a man and that any such interaction is a violation of their person tantamount to an assault. This is why they take all these "incidents" that just gave them an "ick" and spew them across social media. Giving a woman an ick isn't illegal, it's not even immoral, but it is punishable in the court of public opinion which is why they announce what happened in the most dramatic way they can and then delete it once enough outlets have run with it.

Yeah, I guess it's just current year. I am a woman and much older than this chick, and had Ed said to me the kind of things he said to that chick in the DMs she leaked, at that age, I would have just brushed it off as another awkward comic nerd who doesn't know how to talk to females appropriately. You get used to that as a woman in comics--or at least we used to. I was around 17 or 18 when I first talked to Ed and he wasn't untoward with me at all. Just a fellow artist who was into the same shit I was into.

You gotta realize early on in the comics scene that as a female artist you are a rarity, especially if you draw gore or sexual shit like this girl apparently did, and there are a lot of guys who take that as an invitation to prey on you. This girl must have been hella naive because so many female comic artists have been open about their experiences with male artists, even IN THEIR OWN COMICS. Like I said, I guess it's just current year, and this glorification of being a victim of anything but as a female artist at 17 I knew a lot better than to entertain any creepy bullshit from guys. Ugh, it just makes me MATI.

 

[sallowhal]

I agreed with personal casting couch 'mentorship' being inappropriate, but I said in multiple posts that there's no reason why a male can't be a mentor to a female in a coach/teacher capacity. There's an obvious difference between a superior giving a subordinate constructive feedback on how they are performing in their position, and having a secretive 'mentorship' relationship that clearly crosses personal lines and involves unprofessional conduct. A mentor at work and a mentor in DMs with a stranger is not the same thing and it's only the same thing if you're coming from some trad larp angle.

what are the benefits a man gets from mentoring a woman? none.
what are the risks that come with mentoring women? losing your reputation, your livelihood, your family, your life.

not worth it. mike pence was right. no trad larp angle here, i'm an atheist and a communist. just have eyes.

 

[Chazzed Up]

i'm an atheist and a communis

You're a communist but your means of evaluating whether an action is worthwhile is only in regards to if there's personal gain?

 

[Train Operator]

Sure, but it would keep him occupied for at least (checks playlist) like 300 hours?

true. Faggot could've waited out the outrage mob and still not be on the tranny arc. if only he wasn't so eager to live out his autistic fantasy of being the bitch from 13 reasons why.

 

[sallowhal]

In the post metoo era Mike Pence rule is something that should be taught in school. Any appearance of sexual impropriety is enough to get yourself doxed and your life ruined. It's the way the world is now and we have to adapt to it.

i know i've repeated it a bunch but it is the best advice i ever got as a young man by a mentor. avoid the appearance of evil. he also refused to be alone in a room with a woman, and would call in at least one other person to be a witness, or would outright refuse to engage in conversation and leave the room. great guy, father and husband, extremely hard worker. this was back in 2012 so he was ahead of the curve.

 

[Miniluv]

If you don't see why those are strange things to say to a 17 year old as a 41 year old, you're probably as autistic as he is.

Never said they weren't strange, or sus, or misguided, or ill-advised, or even inappropriate. Read what I wrote. All I said was that they weren't overtly sexual. Molly Dwyer said he never sent her anything explicit or lewd or sexual. The absolute worst you can say about them is that they were suggestive. And even then it's rather mildly suggestive.
He didn't even run with the bait when she told Piskor she was a "slut for linework".

I'm not conflating it with rape or grooming

YOU aren't, but there were plenty of people doing exactly that and calling for Ed Piskor's livelihood. People with some influence and some clout in his field.

You're saying what he was doing wasn't sexual/inappropriate,

Again, never said it wasn't inappropriate, just that it wasn't sexual. It's mildly suggestive, but "sexual" requires the reader to do a little lifting.

but also saying women need to be taught to tolerate/accept advances from men old enough to be their father?

Are you reading some other guy's post or something? Where did I say "women need to be taught to tolerate or accept advances" from older men?
I said women are taught that ANY unwanted or uncomfortable encounters with men (regardless of the man's age) are to be treated as violations of their person.
I'm not talking about rape, I'm not talking about abuse, I'm talking about feeling uncomfortable, which is all that happened to Molly Dwyer.
Since these incidents aren't punishable by the state, women will simply put them on blast and let the internet drag them for something and call it by a name they feel fits the offense like "grooming" or "pedophilia", even if it's not those things.

If you were his age and had a 17 year old daughter (which he is plenty old enough to have), would you want a friend of yours in her DMs like that?

Nope, I sure wouldn't.
I also wouldn't have a news crew track down his elderly parents or write "JOHN SMITH LIKES LITTLE HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS" on a sign next to his house. I also wouldn't continue to be his friend for several years after the fact until I decided to get pissed off about it. I'd just not interact with him again, which is what anyone should do with someone that makes them feel uncomfortable. Pretty easy to do when you live hundreds of miles away and only interact with that person online.

 

[sallowhal]

You're a communist but your means of evaluating whether an action is worthwhile is only in regards to if there's personal gain?

when you're married and have children your priorities tend to crystallize. i will say though, even if there was some form of personal gain that came from mentoring a woman, i still wouldn't do it. not worth the risk. can't be #metoo'd by a bpdemon if you never give them any ammunition.

 

[Swingletonthesimpleton]

I ain't reading all that shit. If you kill yourself over the internet you either fucked a child or are just retarded. Both deserve mockery.

 

[Chazzed Up]

Again, never said it wasn't inappropriate, just that it wasn't sexual. It's mildly suggestive, but "sexual" requires the reader to do a little lifting.

Suggestive of what? Something sexual? This is really petty semantics. Would you interpret a man telling a woman he called a 'naughty girl' that she should come crash on his couch as being appropriate and not very obviously sexually leading?

Are you reading some other guy's post or something? Where did I say "women need to be taught to tolerate or accept advances" from older men?
I said women are taught that ANY unwanted or uncomfortable encounters with men (regardless of the man's age) are to be treated as violations of their person.
I'm not talking about rape, I'm not talking about abuse, I'm talking about feeling uncomfortable, which is all that happened to Molly Dwyer.

'Unwanted or uncomfortable encounters' seems a lot to just be a rephrasing of 'advances'. You basically just rephrased what I said and then acted like it's something entirely different.

Nope, I sure wouldn't.
I also wouldn't have a news crew track down his elderly parents or write "JOHN SMITH LIKES LITTLE HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS" on a sign next to his house. I also wouldn't continue to be his friend for several years after the fact until I decided to get pissed off about it. I'd just not interact with him again, which is what anyone should do with someone that makes them feel uncomfortable. Pretty easy to do when you live hundreds of miles away and only interact with that person online.

This is some fucking whataboutism unrelated to what I said. Saying that this guy set himself up for trouble by engaging in what was obviously flirtatious behavior with someone he knew to be underage doesn't require that I defend or agree with the girl's actions either. This is the same as the entrapment argument, you can say cops are shitty for setting up bait but that doesn't mean you should be stealing a car.

when you're married and have children your priorities tend to crystallize. i will say though, even if there was some form of personal gain that came from mentoring a woman, i still wouldn't do it. not worth the risk. can't be #metoo'd by a bpdemon if you never give them any ammunition.

That's great and all but I'm still lost on how you hold this perspective that your family comes first but are a communist.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

That’s not a suicide note, it’s a suicide dissertation.

 

[Not A Fed]

If you don't want to get branded a sex pest and bullied into suicide then don't talk to children, simple as. It requires no effort for a not-pedophile adult male to refrain from having private conversations with persons under the age of 18. No excuses.

"I was so sad and lonely during covid I just had to talk to a 17 year old girl on Instagram". Lmfao rest in piss.

If you still do this shit in current year and especially as a public figure then you deserve everything that's coming to you.

I'm getting extraordinarily sick of responses like this.

"Yeah bro just never respond to DMs, always thoroughly vet the people you write a message to, or even just ignore women altogether. Those are all realistic solutions to the problem of someone being able to take any sentence you write to them out of context." And you know it always comes from some terminally online freakazoid with no creative endeavors so they get zero attention from anyone.

You typed something that when taken out of context looks suspicious to someone slightly under 18 years old a few years ago? Sorry, chud, you deserve to have your life ruined. Better luck in the next life. That guy said 'naughty girl'. Just kill him.

 

[Lidl Drip]

I'm getting extraordinarily sick of responses like this.

"Yeah bro just never respond to DMs, always thoroughly vet the people you write a message to, or even just ignore women altogether. Those are all realistic solutions to the problem of someone being able to take any sentence you write to them out of context." And you know it always comes from some terminally online freakazoid with no creative endeavors so they get zero attention from anyone.

You typed something that when taken out of context looks suspicious to someone slightly under 18 years ago? Sorry, chud, you deserve to have your life ruined. Better luck in the next life. That guy said 'naughty girl'. Just kill him.

Ok groomer. It's actually really easy to not talk suggestively to kids on the Internet.

 

[sallowhal]

That's great and all but I'm still lost on how you hold this perspective that your family comes first but are a communist.

can you point to where marx said i should risk homelessness to mentor a heckin valid wymyn? because i never saw that in anything he wrote.

 

[paperwork]

fuck this thread is full of retards, what the hell. how did you even manage to figure out how to make an account?

 

[Chazzed Up]

can you point to where marx said i should risk homelessness to mentor a heckin valid wymyn? because i never saw that in anything he wrote.

Virtually every example of communism in practices involves authoritarianism at which point you can be declared a political prisoner at any point and either have your shit taken away from you, if you're lucky, or thrown into prison/killed. Why are you advocating for a system like that if you're against risking homelessness/your life/your family?

 

[Not A Fed]

Ok groomer. It's actually really easy to not talk suggestively to kids on the Internet.

"Sorry, chud, but you called a 17 year old girl naughty . Time to die."

the take is that if a man has two fucking brain cells to rub together, he won't try to mentor a woman he is not married to or blood related to. you've agreed with my previous posts stating this exact thing, why are you suddenly negrating me and acting like i'm changing my point?

what are the benefits a man gets from mentoring a woman? none.
what are the risks that come with mentoring women? losing your reputation, your livelihood, your family, your life.

We don't live in a world where you can just pretend half the population doesn't exist in a workplace setting. It sounds good on the internet in the presence of terminally online freaks who don't live in the real world, but it's not realistic.