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[AnotherPleb]

And why niggers hated Trump....

Bullshit. They started hating him because they were told to, and they had to crank the propaganda machine into overdrive when Trump provided the Wuflu checks

 

[Dick Mason]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13265673/trump-christian-visibility-day-easter-biden-wisconsin-rally.html

Trump declares the November 5 general election as 'Christian Visibility Day' and asks 'what the hell' Biden was thinking with trans proclamation at wild Wisconsin rally where he mocks Joe's golf swing​

'November 5 is going to be called something else,' Trump said. 'You know what it's going to be called? Christian Visibility Day, when Christians turn out in numbers that nobody has ever seen before.'

 

[The Hardest R]

They also seem to be completely foreign to the idea that sympathy for one tragic attack does not in fact provide carte blanche for war crimes.

Israel seems hellbent on pissing off their supporters with this war. Then we get treated to weepy editorials about how they are victimized, which pisses even more people off. I think only the most dyed in the wool Neocons are the only ones who have anything positive to say about Israel’s actions at this point.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

They also seem to be completely foreign to the idea that sympathy for one tragic attack does not in fact provide carte blanche for war crimes.

or at least that the card's only good for a limited time
if they just totally plowed Gaza to the last breathing thing in the first few weeks I don't think there would have been many fucks given

 

[dustbuster]

Israel seems hellbent on pissing off their supporters with this war.

What supporters.
Canada has voted to discontinue aid under pressure from its marxist (pro terrorist) wing.
Biden is pandering to literal jihadis in Michigan and Minnesota at Israel's expense.

If I'm Israel, I see what's about to come and muster everything for one final and decisive strike before it saps the capacity to do so.

They can tune out the bitching and whining from "former allies" when every barbarian is reduced to red mist.
You don't need military aid if there's nobody left to attack you.

 

[The 6th Jester]

I've got a better idea, if Israel fucking glassed Iran, then all of these terrorist groups would just cease to exist, and they could finally get on with their lives. It's literally Iran and the saudis funding everything like this isn't it? Why are they wasting time with the symptoms when the cause has been known for generations.

 

[pwnest injun]

and... pissed away all support it had.

I don't know if they think that they can just heap this all on BB and say it was him and his failures, the way that the US has been able to scapegoat Bush for a lot of the GWoT excesses, but if that's the plan it sure as hell won't work. Netanyahu *is* Israel. They've elected that cunt over and over. He is theirs and they are his. This ethnic cleansing shit is going to cost them more than the occasional rocket attack ever did.

 

[Individualism Incarnate]

You don't need military aid if there's nobody left to attack you.

Pride comes before the fall.

 

[dustbuster]

This ethnic cleansing shit is going to cost them more than the occasional rocket attack ever did.

The "occasional rocket attack" has cost them 10's of billions a year and thousands of lost lives.

They have the west by the balls via anti-missile and silicon tech that are both under arms export controls in theory, but which they can turn around and hand to Russia in exchange for protection if they engage in too much fuckery.

I've watched Hamas and its various sister organizations piss on the proffered olive branch since the Johnson era, and I don't think there's any justification from an ethical standpoint for the Israeli government to allow it to continue.

Pride comes before the fall.

Fall to what.. ghosts?
If Israel allows Gaza to remain inhabited with the current trajectory of western sympathies, they will become South Africa by 2089.
You know it, I know it, and They know it.

We are now at the point of "Rasczak's Lesson On Force From Starship Troopers".
One of these factions must end, and Gaza will be it.

When the price for failing to use force will be annihilation later thanks to failure of alliances, the price of severing those alliances more quickly is 100% worth it if it avoids annihilation now.

 

[Nigger Cobson]

What supporters.
Canada has voted to discontinue aid under pressure from its marxist (pro terrorist) wing.
Biden is pandering to literal jihadis in Michigan and Minnesota at Israel's expense.

If I'm Israel, I see what's about to come and muster everything for one final and decisive strike before it saps the capacity to do so.

They can tune out the bitching and whining from "former allies" when every barbarian is reduced to red mist.
You don't need military aid if there's nobody left to attack you.

Even if the Israelis enact TPD on the Gaza Strip, there's still Hezbollah that they have to be wary of in case they try to pull a second 10/7. Given Israel's history with Lebanon, they might want to invade southern Lebanon again sometime after they solve the Gaza question, so military aid would still be a boon. Also Hezbollah is an actual competent military force, unlike every other Arab military in the modern era, as evidenced by their performance in the 2006 Lebanon War with only 1,000 of their soldiers managing to repel an Israeli force of 10,000.

 

[John.Doe]

Best case scenario is the Millitary complex experiences a coup where all the troons and DEI hires all have shooting range accidents and people who recognizes that war is hell end up in charge.

All we need is some power armor and aliens to have the classic recipe for a Heinlein style Terran Federation. He called this out so long ago...

"And that was the soft spot which destroyed what was in many ways an admirable culture. The junior hoodlums who roamed their streets were symptoms of a greater sickness; their citizens (all of them counted as such) glorified their mythology of 'rights' . . . and lost track of their duties. No nation, so constituted, can endure."

 

[quaawaa]

The "occasional rocket attack" has cost them the American taxpayer 10's of billions a year

FTFY

If Israel allows Gaza to remain inhabited with the current trajectory of western sympathies, they will become South Africa by 2089.
You know it, I know it, and They know it.

That’s true but it doesn’t matter.

If Europe becomes majority Muslim, Israel will get nuked. It’s ironic that this threat only exists because Europe accepted large numbers of Muslim refugees from wars with strategic value to Israel but not Europe.

Even today, without American support Israel would collapse. Even if the IDF could hold, the rest of the country would revolt as their cushy welfare programs are cut to fund the war effort. They also don’t have the industry necessary to support war.

Israel is not American in culture, which is very odd for the “greatest ally”; it is closer to a European welfare state, which makes sense as that’s who founded the country. An ever increasing percentage of the Israeli population refuses to do any work and they’re the only ones having kids; what happens in 2089 when they’re the majority of the population?

Israel is doomed on its current path no matter what Hamas does. You know it. I know it. They know it.

 

[dustbuster]

If Europe becomes majority Muslim, Israel will get nuked.

No, by then they'll have pivoted to BRICS and the Russians and Chinese will treat them like the US does Taiwan.

 

[quaawaa]

No, by then they'll have pivoted to BRICS and the Russians and Chinese will treat them like the US does Taiwan.

Why would China or Russia care about them? They don’t feel misplaced guilt towards the Holocaust or have a religious sect that believes that protecting Israel will cause their messiah to return.

India loves them because they hate Muslims because of Pakistan, but they have no ability to help.

 

[dustbuster]

Why would China or Russia care about them?

China cares about them because of their cutting edge silicon research.
Russia cares about them because of their cutting edge missile interception capabilities and a warm water shoreline in the Med.
BOTH care about them because they're perfectly positioned to launch attacks on sunni strongholds (they're allied with the Shia).
BOTH care about them because Israel has the capacity to exert control over the Suez
(I keep thinking up new shit.. i'll stop updating this post)

 

[AnotherPleb]

BOTH care about them because Israel has the capacity to exert control over the Suez

This is the key reason America supports Israel. America loses Israel and they lose the petrodollar, and with it the economy.

 

[Abraham Lincoln]

Biden is pandering to literal jihadis in Michigan and Minnesota at Israel's expense.

His pandering consists of sending bombs and F-35s to Israel along with funding ISIS to attack Israel's enemies. Strange way of pandering given that his Muslim support in both states have collapsed hard.

can turn around and hand to Russia in exchange for protection if they engage in too much fuckery.

Giving it to Russia would not be advisable when Russia is on friendly terms with Iran.

If Israel allows Gaza to remain inhabited with the current trajectory of western sympathies, they will become South Africa by 2089.

Will America even make it to 2089 or the Western World itself before you worry about Israel making it there.

If I'm Israel, I see what's about to come and muster everything for one final and decisive strike before it saps the capacity to do so.

That is a meme and movie cliche at this point when it comes to guerilla warfare. This isn't a Call of Duty team death match.

Trump is not going outright against the Israelis but he's ballsy enough to openly disagree with their strategy and criticize them on prolonging the war and all the horrific shit they allow to come out of camera.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-israel-gaza-netanyahu-biden-ba17bedaf2f1b5f2ea220828d0fba73b

They don't particularly like that he treats them as equals I suspect.

Trump's stance on war has always been that it is a costly endeavor that does nothing to enrich anyone but the most elite. Something he is, surprisingly, quite against since Trump is a very firm believer in the idea that "A rising tide raises all boats" and has consistently advocated raising up poorer Americans as a means of enriching everyone bottom to top. So his support of Israel is fed through that lens and likely results in him viewing the entire thing as a costly mess. Israel hit back, hit back hard, showed it wasn't to be trifled with and... pissed away all support it had.

There is a clip of Trump talking about and referring to how Bibi didn't want a deal when they first met. Probably why Bibi was first to send congratulations to Biden, Biden would not question him.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Israel was safer under Trump but the thing is that Trump kept treating them like allies. Israel doesn't want that, they want shabbos goyim to do as they ask. Bibi was infuriated that Trump would treat him as a equal and had the gal to ask for things in return for American help and support along with having publicly treated him casually down to asking to slow down settlements on the east bank.

It's jewish hubris at it finest going on here.

 

[Rykel22]

Ya know, the Israel Gaza thing has a lot of comparisons to the Austro-Hungarian Empire in 1914. Going to hard after an offending party and ruining the pro them sentiment. History repeats and all that

 

[mandatorylurk]

Trump and Fag Smith sent the FL Judge their jury instruction questions last night, and it seems Fag Smith is now saying Trump should be convicted because he violated Obummer's executive order, not the Presidential Records Act.