US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

no lol, 40" for the entire gun, a 20" barrel is sort of the standard for AR10s I believe, at 16" you're not getting full powder burn. 18 is probably a nice compromise but still much longer than the 13.5" this is able to utilize thanks to the insane pressure the round runs at

 

[mlanguishi]

forty foot wide barrel is like, some space anime shit

Mistyped 40' to 40" in post I was replying to.

no lol, 40" for the entire gun, a 20" barrel is sort of the standard for AR10s I believe, at 16" you're not getting full powder burn. 18 is probably a nice compromise but still much longer than the 13.5" this is able to utilize thanks to the insane pressure the round runs at

Well there's 2 reasons a 13.5" barrel sucks, it's too short and it violates the stupid NFA. A standard US military rifle that's not only select-fire changed to legal civiie only over defaults SUCKS.

 

[Halfnium Bomb]

Re: Raifu sperging, everything I hear about the new raifu is bad, the competition for it was ass backwards, the design philosophy behind it seems bad, the sintered suppressor is almost designed to be a choke point in production, the ultra AI magic computer scope just sounds retarded, and for fuck's sake, 308 and modernized AR10s are already right fucking there, the proprietary cartridge just seems like a liability.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Mistyped 40' to 40" in post I was replying to.

fuck that
go Gunbuster or go home

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

Yeah I don't know much about the rifle/round itself, if I was going to buy something new and janky I really like 8.6 Blackout. Huge energy out of an 8" barrel and reliable expansion at any range because the bullet spins so stupidly fast. I'm all for just sticking with the classics 99% of the time TWO WORLD WARS

 

[mlanguishi]

fuck that
go Gunbuster or go home

Well it'll be interesting, 'military norms' has been a historic thing when it comes to small arms to be legal for civilians ownership. If they make 13.5inch + suppressor total to be a new thing.. But I assume the 13.5inch suppressor will be removable?

I think the angst against short barrel rifles might be the dumbest thing ever. At least suppressors make some chance, but they should also be non-NFA fully legal.

Yeah I don't know much about the rifle/round itself, if I was going to buy something new and janky I really like 8.6 Blackout. Huge energy out of an 8" barrel and reliable expansion at any range because the bullet spins so stupidly fast. I'm all for just sticking with the classics 99% of the time TWO WORLD WARS

You basically have 2 things with rifles, hydrostatic shock from 5.56 style or heavy penetration from .308. .308 will dump the innards of someone out the back side. A 5.56 tends to tear up the insides and not dump them out the exit wound as much.

In the end, it's not that much of a difference when it comes to lethality-round hit.

 

[Michael Wade]

I was going to point... all of this out. But you beat me to it. This is a -really fucking stupid- idea.

Hey, here's an idea: let's bring back shellshocked, resentful, and disillusioned forever war vets to fill empty jobs where they'll be in positions of authority over lower-ranking troops. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!

Quiet I want to see how this goes.

Lmao, you think the boomers are gonna be in positions of power and authority? No, their gonna be grunts and answer to DEI negresses a decade to two decades younger than them. Gonna be hell.

Even better. Let's have a bunch of based soldiers who know how the game works sprinkled among the enlisted class. The exchange of cultural ideas and information will be educational

 

[Betonhaus]

Hey, here's an idea: let's bring back shellshocked, resentful, and disillusioned forever war vets to fill empty jobs where they'll be in positions of authority over lower-ranking troops. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!

Best case scenario is the Millitary complex experiences a coup where all the troons and DEI hires all have shooting range accidents and people who recognizes that war is hell end up in charge.

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

I've been watching the wisconsin primary results and so far those votes are still in the lead by a lot. The dems still could rig it the other way last minute, but I do hope not. On another note, so far in only one county in the state has "uninstructed" won a primary and surprisingly it's the GOP one (49% for uninstructed vs 41% for Trump). I know there was a big push to have that option added to the ballet by leftists as a protest vote against biden over the war israel-palestine conflict but so far it seems that barely any dems have voted for that option even in the deep blue counties.

as I mentioned earlier, the Ass. Press corrected their count for Racine County and have Trump winning it by a ton, as opposed to only getting 41% (and Uninstructed getting 49%).

Tabulation errors happening often in election reporting. Usually because a journalist fat fingers the numbers when they hurriedly type things in

 

[The Last Stand]

I wonder if talking about guns outside of video games is legal anymore.

 

[pwnest injun]

You basically have 2 things with rifles, hydrostatic shock from 5.56 style or heavy penetration from .308. .308 will dump the innards of someone out the back side. A 5.56 tends to tear up the insides and not dump them out the exit wound as much.

In the end, it's not that much of a difference when it comes to lethality-round hit.

The 6.8 should be able to travel through light cover like a cinder block wall as if it wasn't there. Pretty great in an urban combat situation.

 

[Snekposter]

I guess that bloodbath thing against Trump didn't work out so well. He chewed that up and spit it back in their faces. lol.

That's how Donny operates. The man is a master of rhetoric.

It's not really competing with the M4 though, the round it fires is closer to the 7.62x51 than 5.56x45, so you're looking at something like an AR-10 which clocks in at over 40" with no suppressor

Yeah, its basically a battle carbine meant for CQC against armored infantry in dense cover, which is something 5.56x45 is woefully incapable of doing.

For all the Kiwis unaware, the latest-gen plates the US Army issues can take multiple impacts from .30-06 AP rounds before failure, and even a cheapo bargain bin AR500 steel plates can reliably stop 5.56 almost right up to the muzzle. Things are more like the Renaissance Era than any other time period of gunpowder warfare in terms of soldiers being able to take a solid hit and keep on going.

The 6.8 should be able to travel through light cover like a cinder block wall as if it wasn't there. Pretty great in an urban combat situation.

Yep. People act like cover isn't a thing when 5.56 has been struggling against it ever since we deployed to the MidEast and all those thick mud brick walls.

You basically have 2 things with rifles, hydrostatic shock from 5.56 style or heavy penetration from .308. .308 will dump the innards of someone out the back side. A 5.56 tends to tear up the insides and not dump them out the exit wound as much.

In the end, it's not that much of a difference when it comes to lethality-round hit.

From what I've heard the hydrostatic shock is overrated, and you're far more likely to die of the blood loss. Anyone with enough fanaticism and/or drugs (so, Muslims) can take multiple rounds and keep on fighting for a short while before they finally expire. Part of the issue is that most of the human body by volume is made of various flexible tissues more likely to bulge than tear, even when subjected to yaw. The only guaranteed instant kill to a target is dumping their organs out the back, either with large caliber rounds or expanding or fragmenting projectiles. There's a reason both the USA and the British Empire utilized large-bore .45 caliber sidearms in our dealings with tribal combatants.

 

[Abraham Lincoln]

Although that could be said for Trump as well

Trump is weirdly.

The least dedicated Israeli worshipping grocery boy.

And by establishment Republican standards, Trump would be considered a traitor or pussy going by his latest statements on the war in Gaza.

Biden wants it both ways pandering to Muslims while sending bombs to Israel.

RFK is heavily Zionist as well along with Gavin Newsom, if they replace Biden with him.

 

[Michael Wade]

Trump is weirdly.

The least dedicated Israeli worshipping grocery boy.

And by establishment Republican standards, Trump would be considered a traitor or pussy going by his latest statements on the war in Gaza.

Biden wants it both ways pandering to Muslims while sending bombs to Israel.

RFK is heavily Zionist as well along with Gavin Newsom, if they replace Biden with him.

Trump is not going outright against the Israelis but he's ballsy enough to openly disagree with their strategy and criticize them on prolonging the war and all the horrific shit they allow to come out of camera.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-israel-gaza-netanyahu-biden-ba17bedaf2f1b5f2ea220828d0fba73b

They don't particularly like that he treats them as equals I suspect.

 

[Abraham Lincoln]

Just based on his posts alone, I have a feeling Jet Fuel Johnny is the last guy they want to recall.

Or folks like @Cpl. Long Dong Silver or @Fatniggo1488 or even @Feline Supremacist

 

[Gehenna]

Trump is not going outright against the Israelis but he's ballsy enough to openly disagree with their strategy and criticize them on prolonging the war and all the horrific shit they allow to come out of camera.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-israel-gaza-netanyahu-biden-ba17bedaf2f1b5f2ea220828d0fba73b

They don't particularly like that he treats them as equals I suspect.

Trump's stance on war has always been that it is a costly endeavor that does nothing to enrich anyone but the most elite. Something he is, surprisingly, quite against since Trump is a very firm believer in the idea that "A rising tide raises all boats" and has consistently advocated raising up poorer Americans as a means of enriching everyone bottom to top. So his support of Israel is fed through that lens and likely results in him viewing the entire thing as a costly mess. Israel hit back, hit back hard, showed it wasn't to be trifled with and... pissed away all support it had.

 

[errforceonezz]

I will gladly inhale the hopium.

Even if they manage to pass it, the Dems up in Maine will probably convert to winner-take-all as well, meaning no net change in electoral votes (Trump will win 1 of Maine's 4 EV's under the current rules).

trump was actually leading in the last statewide maine poll, who knows how accurate that is but if he manages to win maine he could win with only AZ and NV, wouldnt even need the nebraska district (which he is also potentially going to win anyway)

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/maine/biden-vs-trump

 

[Individualism Incarnate]

They don't particularly like that he treats them as equals I suspect.

Same reason why China hated Trump. And why the EU hated Trump. And why niggers hated Trump....

 

[quaawaa]

Trump's stance on war has always been that it is a costly endeavor that does nothing to enrich anyone but the most elite. Something he is, surprisingly, quite against since Trump is a very firm believer in the idea that "A rising tide raises all boats" and has consistently advocated raising up poorer Americans as a means of enriching everyone bottom to top. So his support of Israel is fed through that lens and likely results in him viewing the entire thing as a costly mess. Israel hit back, hit back hard, showed it wasn't to be trifled with and... pissed away all support it had.

Israel doesn’t seem to realize that the only reason anyone supports them is out of sympathy for the Holocaust, not because they care about protecting Jewish lives above all others. Conducting total war after 80 years of advocating for “civilized” war with extremely restrained rules of engagement and punishing secretaries for not starting a revolution after witnessing “war crimes” is a great way to confuse and horrify people.

 

[Gehenna]

Israel doesn’t seem to realize that the only reason anyone supports them is out of sympathy for the Holocaust, not because they care about protecting Jewish lives above all others. Conducting total war after 80 years of advocating for “civilized” war with extremely restrained rules of engagement and punishing secretaries for not starting a revolution after witnessing “war crimes” is a great way to confuse and horrify people.

They also seem to be completely foreign to the idea that sympathy for one tragic attack does not in fact provide carte blanche for war crimes.