Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"

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Those long hours awaiting the birth of his son and heir are preying on Joe’s razor-sharp mind. To occupy himself, he goes on a Twitter spray about JK Rowling. Please enjoy some hot Joe on Jo action.

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Over the years, I’ve had a couple of colleagues express confusion about criticism of JK Rowling. Ppl discuss JKR as though she were open-minded and questioning, but her public comments are vicious, dangerous, and hateful. Please, colleagues, read this:

J.K. Rowling

@jk_rowling
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Apr 1
Scotland's Hate Crime Act comes into effect today. Women gain no additional protections, of course, but well-known trans activist Beth Douglas, darling of prominent Scottish politicians, falls within a protected category. Phew! 1/11

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Some of the cases discussed below raise relevant policy questions. But the notion that this group composed of (1) violent criminals and (2) media figures against whom Rowling has personal grudges, represents the broader community of trans feminists, is inflammatory and shameful.

The policy questions are two, I think. One, should male prisoners be allowed to move into women’s prisons on the basis of a declaration of transition. The mainstream trans feminist position, I would guess, is no, prisons should be abolished.

Liberals don’t like that answer, because they like prisons as punishment for violent offenses, or sometimes because they have a restrictive sense of what kinds of political outcomes are possible. I don’t think incarceration keeps anyone safer; I think it does the opposite.

But one would not need to invent a new type of “sex-based” right in order to make decisions regarding where prisoners should be housed. The basis of such decisions should be prisoner safety; trans women are disproportionately targets of sexual assault: https://transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/resources/NCTE_Blueprint_for_Equality2012_Prison_Reform.pdf

Policy question (2): should sporting bodies exclude trans women from participating in women’s sport? The first-rank answer is that sporting bodies should be able to convene their own competitive classes, and if one decides that testosterone enhances performance, control for that.

Sporting bodies could do so without maintaining the pretense that the controlled characteristics constitute “natural, immutable” properties of sexuation. We say “welterweight” and “featherweight”; I think we can get used to “high-T” and “low-T.”

There’s also a broader question about the forms of social relation that competitive sports generally reproduce. It is difficult to escape the conclusion that sport entails the celebration (and material reward) of normative, and sometimes dangerous, modes of embodiment.

If terfs want to have a “Terf Olympics,” they should be allowed to. I’m much more interested in a fat Olympics, a lazy Olympics, a drug addict Olympics, etc. (I am all three; clean for eight years.) Sport doesn’t encourage body-shaming—it IS body-shaming, in its essence.

Terfs pretend that all of these quite tricky marginal policy questions are all straightforward, by drawing attention only to the most monstrous (or, otherwise, most angry) trans women. Most of us, of course, are not like those in Rowling’s thread.

The actual claim that Rowling advances, here as everywhere, is that something called “biological sex” is “immutable,” and should be a “basis” of rights-claims, social policy, or both. That claim is false. “Sex” names a number of properties, some of which are not immutable.

You can’t change your chromosomes, but you can reorient your endocrine system. That fact is remarkable. The role that hormones play in the sexuation of the human species is essential, and the fact that we can now elect how to direct that role is a very good development!

More to the point, neither “biological sex” not “self-ID” should be a basis of any kind of rights claim or social policy. The state has no reason to decide how to define sexual classes, any more than it has to decide who is a real lesbian (another bizarre demand some terfs make).

Feminism has long been constituted by resistance to the creation of what are now called “sex-based rights.” I wrote about this history for the LARB last year:

Gender abolitionists like me want three things: (1) the eradication of all forms of legal abolition of sex and gender discrimination in law, (2) an end to state surveillance of bodies, and (3) an end to state restriction on transition.

If JKR wanted to be taken seriously, she would address the actual claims that trans feminists make. Instead she points at monsters (and some perfectly fine people who have said some intemperate things) to produce fear and hatred. It is a shameful display. Stand up, fight back.

TL;DR JK is wrong because sports are dumb, testosterone and not male puberty is the problem anyway, and we should abolish prisons and „all forms of legal abolition of sex and gender discrimination in law”, which is either an error in expression or this gender abolitionist wants sex and gender discrimination in law, idk.

He’s right, to be fair, in that sporting organisations should continue to arrange their own affairs, and that a prisoner’s safety should be a factor in where they’re placed. But neither of those propositions require the placing of men with women where women’s safety would be compromised, or their ability to compete fairly.

And what about other social situation? Typical Joe, really. Just handwave away physical reality and bad actors (which is JK’s actual point) because hormones are magic, and other people’s safety is irrelevant when he’s on the coom. That’s a fine set of luxury beliefs you got there, Associate Professor.

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You can’t change your chromosomes, but you can reorient your endocrine system. That fact is remarkable. The role that hormones play in the sexuation of the human species is essential, and the fact that we can now elect how to direct that role is a very good development!
Joe, you clown, you know that's not really true. Sure you got moobs, but it was still you that knocked up Lily rather than vice versa.
 
The policy questions are two, I think. One, should male prisoners be allowed to move into women’s prisons on the basis of a declaration of transition. The mainstream trans feminist position, I would guess, is no, prisons should be abolished.

Liberals don’t like that answer, because they like prisons as punishment for violent offenses, or sometimes because they have a restrictive sense of what kinds of political outcomes are possible. I don’t think incarceration keeps anyone safer; I think it does the opposite.
So criminals should just be executed by police? Think I have to side with the liberals over the mainstream trans feminists then.

More to the point, neither “biological sex” not “self-ID” should be a basis of any kind of rights claim or social policy. The state has no reason to decide how to define sexual classes, any more than it has to decide who is a real lesbian (another bizarre demand some terfs make).

Feminism has long been constituted by resistance to the creation of what are now called “sex-based rights.” I wrote about this history for the LARB last year:

Gender abolitionists like me want three things: (1) the eradication of all forms of legal abolition of sex and gender discrimination in law, (2) an end to state surveillance of bodies, and (3) an end to state restriction on transition.
Except this isn't the trans position, especially not the "mainstream trans feminist" one, the trans position is that the state must define and enforce sexual classes, must do state surveillance of not just bodies but thoughts and must establish restrictions on transition by deciding what it is to fund it.
 
awaiting the birth of his son and heir
I am the son and the heir
of nothing in particular.

You shut your mouth,
how can you say
I go about things the wrong way?
I am human and I need to be loved
Just like anybody else does.

Son of Joe is here. Rochbert. Fucking Rochbert?

Sleep deprivation also has him thinking it’s May 3rd, not April.
Withholding the last name as though that were the unique, distinctive, identifiable detail that will make this kid findable by anyone with half a braincell.

"Indifferent to pronouns"- they're already cycling through the "options," this kid will never be permitted a moment of solid stability in himself.
Yes. Yes, Lily has given birth and given up motherhood all in the same hour. Amazing.
Don't pity her. She is a dumb whore and child abuse enabler, no better than the sows who take cash to birth victims for gay pedo rings.
 
I’m not sure why I thought Joe might have the decency to not post the child on SM. Of course the baby is plastered online within minutes of having afterbirth wiped off. Sad. He will be used as a prop for Joe’s insatiable need for attention until Lilly comes to her senses and removes him from this clown show.

Not that I have a high opinion of Lilly but I think the reality of raising a child will hit her very hard in the next eighteen months. Hard enough that living with the troon polycule sideshow loses its appeal for her. Unless she gets hit hard with PPD or psychosis and just leaves little Roachburt (I’m sorry that’s how the dumb name sounds in my head. Little Roachy!) with the deranged troons.
 
Amazing that Joe and Mallory are the mother and father while Lily is the "Lala."

The "L" phoneme isn't used for names for relatives for babies because many kids can't say that sound until age 3 or 4.

Way to bohemian yourself out of one of the nicest experiences in life, your baby stumbling around through early phonemes and landing on the ones you've picked for yourself. Even though you know they didn't "mean" to say it and don't have any intent about you, it's still a thrill.

It makes me wonder if she was actually the person in the throuple who wanted a baby least. Could this be a case of Joe and Mallory finding a way to get a free surrogate? Lily strikes me as the kind of person who would have no idea what to do with an actual baby after having it. Mal will be the one doing all the diaper changes.
 
That poor sweet baby. He looks so at peace, yet he has no idea how awful his life is going to be, and this makes me MATI.

It really saddens me every time I see these lolcows on KF bring a new baby into the world, you just know they're going to end up like Jazz Jennings or Desmond is Amazing, or worse *sigh*
 
Mal will be the one doing all the diaper changes.

You are a prophet. Tard baby has posted some further photos and sure enough she did the first change, which at least has stopped her annoying twee posts about Mansfield Park. Rocco has won my heart for that inadvertent service alone. But TBH Lily might have wanted a baby but also to keep her job. Mal is the only NEET in the polycule, so it makes sense to turn her into the nanny, sorry, manny.

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Well, as long as it's not Joe changing the diapers. Silver linings. The best case scenario for this baby is that the degenerate checks out immediately and lets the two women take care of him. The little hat they've put on him has the colours of the troon flag, though. *sigh*
 
Well, as long as it's not Joe changing the diapers. Silver linings. The best case scenario for this baby is that the degenerate checks out immediately and lets the two women take care of him. The little hat they've put on him has the colours of the troon flag, though. *sigh*
If it makes you feel any better, those hats are standard at USA hospitals. They've always been pink and blue, well before troon nonsense. Sucks how the trans movement has killed a cool color combo.

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