The Anti-Capitalism Thread

[Colon capital V]

>OH MY SCIENCE!!!! I HECKKING LOVE BASING MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY ON ALL OF THE PRODUCTS I CONSOOM AND CHERISH!!! IF IT WEREN'T FOR THOSE GRACIOUS CORPOS PROVIDING MY COKE AND FUNKO POPS I MIGHT JUST KILL MYSELF AS THIS IS THE ONLY THING GOING FOR IN MY LIFE!!!!!!!!

>Now let me tell you why we need communism

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Buddy, it sounds like you have the forbidden ideology where we do free enterprise but for the benefit of actual human beings without all the insane financialism! Call it whatever you want: populism, third position, I prefer Deer Sneeder's coining of "Social Nationalism" - if you espouse it in any serious manor you will be maligned by every institution that exists. Because it's what basically every normal person wants, but it would destroy the current ruling class.

>social nationalism
I too like the Syrian Social Nationalist Party, they have a badass flag and don't take shit from no Zionists or glowing CIA Islamists.

 

[glow]

I’m sick at the thought of me slaving my ass off at a job that pays okay, and yet I will most likely never be able to own a home.

I can empathise. For some people, life is just hard and it sounds like you made the right move by taking on debt to gtfo of your shitty town, but you have more work ahead of you.

Capitalism is just a way of managing resources and value. Right now, probably the only value you have is the labor you can provide, and right now you are selling your labor to a single buyer. Of course you'll get paid OK, they'll pay you the minimum they have to.

You might not be able to do this now, but you need to take your skillset and sell it to many people, as an independent contractor (a tradesman), or as a small business owner. If you don't have a skillset that can be sold in this way, you have to gain it first. The next stage is to employ other people who can work for you. This is how I achieved/am achieving financial independence.

You can hate the game, but it's pointless, as you have to play it in one way or another. You can take the easy strategy of what you are currently doing (believe it or not, you are still playing the game on easy difficulty), or switch the difficulty to hard, where you forge your own path. The great news is, you don't have time for consumerism when you're calculating how to pay vendors and pay your staff in your early days when cashflow is low.

It is true that it was easier at one point but whinging about this is also pointless, as that's what you've got to work with. There is still an enormous amount of wealth in this world, and some of this can be yours if you try, but you will have to work a lot longer to get it for as long as you trade your time for money from a single buyer.

 

[Poppy Brown]

You had options other than taking out a loan -- job corps, community college, military, etc. I bet you're fat or have "anxiety" so probably couldn't join the military though.

Take advantage of your crappy 401k. Even if there is no employer match it is still pre-taxed. Invest at least 5% to start and increase it by 1%/year until you are maxed out. Hell even start at 1% if that's all you can do.

And no you don't just want a small house. You want a small house in the location you want. Move back to your bum fuck town and you could probably afford a house there.

 

[Cheeseknife]

Corporations are antithetical to free market capitalism.

In any case where the individual is shafted for the sake of the group, it is no longer capitalism.

 

[Coldgrip]

lol faggot

 

[Cherry Eyed Hamster]

You had options other than taking out a loan -- job corps, community college, military, etc. I bet you're fat or have "anxiety" so probably couldn't join the military though.

I’m neither. I had family who joined the military and it fucked a lot of them up physically and mentally for shit pay. Again, I hail from a small town. A lot of people here have been desperate enough to join the military. Some have had good experiences, but a lot of them went through so much shit.

I will admit that I made a mistake and should have done my pre-requisits at a Community College, though that would have meant I would miss out on my scholarship to one of the best schools in the nation.

Take advantage of your crappy 401k. Even if there is no employer match it is still pre-taxed. Invest at least 5% to start and increase it by 1%/year until you are maxed out. Hell even start at 1% if that's all you can do.

I am. I’m pinching my pennies. Doesn’t mean that it isn’t difficult.

And no you don't just want a small house. You want a small house in the location you want. Move back to your bum fuck town and you could probably afford a house there.

My town is being overrun by illegals and meth. I’ll live in a small town if it’s not a shithole full of crime and drug abuse. My town was struggling when I was younger due to industries abandoning it, leaving the locals with absolutely no economy except shitty minimum wage jobs at Walmart or McDonald’s, and now it’s gotten much worse because of immigration. Corporate apathy and politicians have absolutely fucking eviscerated it.

I’ve been “pulling myself up by my bootstraps” as conservatives like to say, and yet I receive criticism from them for going to school and attempting to improve my living situation, when all they do is gab about helping the white underdogs yet doing absolutely fucking nothing to actually tackle rural poverty.

 

[Freya]

shitty minimum wage jobs at Walmart or McDonald’s,

don't forget dollar general!

 

[Figger Nucker]

I’m not a communist, dipshit. I’m not even left-wing. I’ve already told you why I did what I did. I’m tired of critics of capitalism being associated with a fringe political ideology.

You're associated with it because you act like every other retard with similar criticisms. Instead of looking internally and fixing the things you can change you immediately jump onto the thinking of society should bend to fit your mold. You are not owed success, you are not owed a house, you are not owed a livable wage for a job that any 80IQ spic can do, but for some reason you think you are despite the fact you're too fucking retarded to make good decisions on your own. You have your foot in the gibsmedat door with the only real difference being you're willing to put in the bare minimum to succeed.

I didn’t want to do trades since I’ve had many family members do that kind of work and it destroyed their bodies by the time they were 45.

I’m neither. I had family who joined the military and it fucked a lot of them up physically and mentally for shit pay.

It's strange to me you want to bemoan your situation but two things that could either have really helped you or be very lucrative you simply don't want to do. Again, nigger brain.

I’ve been “pulling myself up by my bootstraps” as conservatives like to say, and yet I receive criticism from them for going to school and attempting to improve my living situation,

Who? People in your actual life or online commentators? If it's online commentators you should consider suicide.

 

[Freya]

You're associated with it because you act like every other retard with similar criticisms. Instead of looking internally and fixing the things you can change you immediately jump onto the thinking of society should bend to fit your mold. You are not owed success, you are not owed a house, you are not owed a livable wage for a job that any 80IQ spic can do, but for some reason you think you are despite the fact you're too fucking retarded to make good decisions on your own. You have your foot in the gibsmedat door with the only real difference being you're willing to put in the bare minimum to succeed.

are you 65?

 

[Figger Nucker]

are you 65?

I don't have to be to call a retard a retard. I have everything the OP wants because I DON"T blame everyone but myself for my problems.

 

[Cherry Eyed Hamster]

You're associated with it because you act like every other retard with similar criticisms.

You’re a retard.

Instead of looking internally and fixing the things you can change you immediately jump onto the thinking of society should bend to fit your mold. You are not owed success, you are not owed a house, you are not owed a livable wage for a job that any 80IQ spic can do, but for some reason you think you are despite the fact you're too fucking retarded to make good decisions on your own. You have your foot in the gibsmedat door with the only real difference being you're willing to put in the bare minimum to succeed.

lol an 80IQ spic wouldn’t be able to do my job. Unlike you, I’m actually in a field that requires quite a bit of problem-solving and mental fortitude.

Also where the fuck did I say I am “owed” a house?? All I said was it shouldn’t be as difficult as it is to own a house due to rising costs.

It's strange to me you want to bemoan your situation but two things that could either have really helped you or be very lucrative you simply don't want to do. Again, nigger brain.

I’ve already explained the reasons for choosing the path I did. I even agreed with you at one point but you’re just hurtling insults hoping shit will stick.

 

[Figger Nucker]

You’re a retard.

Yet I can afford a house.

lol an 80IQ spic wouldn’t be able to do my job. Unlike you, I’m actually in a field that requires quite a bit of problem-solving and mental fortitude.

Yet you bitch on an autism forum because you can't solve your own problems.

Also where the fuck did I say I am “owed” a house?? All I said was it shouldn’t be as difficult as it is to own a house due to rising costs.

Why should it not be difficult to own a house? It's supply and demand my dude. You have the same opportunity as everyone else, you just don't have the same access to resources by your own doing.

I’ve already explained the reasons for choosing the path I did. I even agreed with you at one point but you’re just hurtling insults hoping shit will stick.

Great way to kill time, isn't it?

 

[Poppy Brown]

I had family who joined the military and it fucked a lot of them up physically and mentally for shit pay.

Many jobs in the military are not physically intensive once you complete basic training. Look I wouldn't want to be Uncle Sam's bitch for four + years either, but I've seen many use the military to achieve great financial success

I am. I’m pinching my pennies. Doesn’t mean that it isn’t difficult.

Well good, keep that up. Just doing that puts you above so many who don't even save at all.

I’ve been “pulling myself up by my bootstraps” as conservatives like to say, and yet I receive criticism from them for going to school and attempting to improve my living situation

People say pull yourself up by your bootstraps because that's honestly the only option you have. No one is coming to save you. You should have gone to r/antiwork if you just wanted someone to pat you on the head and tell you it's not your fault. And while I do sound harsh, I don't say any of this with malice, because I've been where you were. My first degree turned out to be useless and I couldn't find a good paying job. After I stopped feeling sorry for myself, I went back to school and got a non-useless degree and I'm now making bank and only have to work 3 days a week. You do have options -- they aren't necessarily good ones-- but you need to focus on what you can control, rather than complaining about the system that isn't going to go away anytime soon.

Also, conservatives typically don't criticize people for going to college. They criticize people for going into debt for a degree that clearly won't pay off for them. They try to warn college students, but it goes in one ear and out the other. It's not completely college student's fault because the propaganda for college is massive, but it's still their responsibility to fix the situation they chose to put themselves in.

You are not owed success, you are not owed a house, you are not owed a livable wage for a job that any 80IQ spi

People are bitter because boomers were able to do just that. My parents were able to buy a house with no college degree and working service jobs. My Grandmother bought three rental properties as an elementary school teacher. Those days are over and aren't coming back. Best to drop the bitterness and make the best of the opportunities still available to us.

 

[rrtyui]

Buddy, it sounds like you have the forbidden ideology where we do free enterprise but for the benefit of actual human beings without all the insane financialism!

So how do you do that?

Corporations are antithetical to free market capitalism.

In any case where the individual is shafted for the sake of the group, it is no longer capitalism.

Elaborate? Respectfully, this reads like niggerbabble.

 

[Night Crawler]

Capitalism sucks but not for the reasons leftists claim. It's much worse than that.

 

[Product Placement]

I'm a capitalist but gov need to regulate big business, but are too much of a pussy to do so. The idea of stock growth being the most important thing for a business above even profitability is just crazy and is behind shit like the GAAS push in games, or every media company having a streaming service, doesn't matter if they lose money, just matters the stock prices go up.

Then got companies that fuck the public over, but government then bail out, such banks in 2008 or if you are in the UK what is looking to happen to the privatised water companies. Never talk about letting them go under, it's unthinkable, what is even more unthinkable is the government taking control or shares within the businesses to make up for the public money used to bail them out. And the companies never have a reason to change, because Gov will just bail them out again.

I understand the need for companies to expand, but so much of it is done by taking over companies in the same field, rather than a organic growth or expanding into different areas. This has lead to 10 companies controlling most of the food products you buy from, which is very much against the public interest.

Then you got companies that never pay their fair share of taxes, I get it is their best interest to pay least amount of taxes they can, but one of the governments jobs should be closing down the loopholes that allow them to. On the topic, these companies fund and control so much of the government with donations to political campaigns, because most politicians are whores who will do anything to be in power.

One last thing, the whole cost of living crisis has made prices go up, but they have went up for more than they should have, and if you look into these companies, they are reporting higher profits. Energy companies report record profits in the UK, the public push to have a windfall tax on them, gov says no, and people forget all about how they are getting fucked over.

 

[Tetra]

Corporations are antithetical to free market capitalism.

In any case where the individual is shafted for the sake of the group, it is no longer capitalism.

The individual, just like equity doesn't exist. Throughout all of human history there has always been a government and in places where government doesn't exist there has always been gang leaders.
Collectivism for the common good of the group is the default and will always be the default. Societies that does not practice this are failing.

You're associated with it because you act like every other retard with similar criticisms. Instead of looking internally and fixing the things you can change you immediately jump onto the thinking of society should bend to fit your mold. You are not owed success, you are not owed a house, you are not owed a livable wage for a job that any 80IQ spic can do, but for some reason you think you are despite the fact you're too fucking retarded to make good decisions on your own. You have your foot in the gibsmedat door with the only real difference being you're willing to put in the bare minimum to succeed.

lmao boomer. First of all, most problems in the world is caused by other people. Want to know why people can't afford a house? Someone else imported people to bid for houses / some big company like blackrock with untold wealth wants to own it all. Want to know why those 80iq spics are there to compete to begin with? Someone else imported them. This is a case where other people are responsible and only retarded boomers poisoned by individually propaganda believe they are to be responsible for damage inflicted on them and their loved ones. PS. When you eventually get taxed more, it will be your fault the people elected a government to do so.

But hey, those people Mao Zedong's army executed? It was actually their fault for not having guns, after all it is always the individuals fault. Do you see how completely retarded your world view is? Or are you gonna keep fellating Reagans corpse before heading back to the retirement home? Perhaps you'll claim it's totally different because Maos army was a "government" one or it was violent as if those things make any difference in the real world what so ever.

You are so ignorant to everything that has been given to you by a collective, cohesive society. From your mom and dad utilizing a hospital that is likely partially subsidized giving you life, to the school and roads you travelled, the food you eat by a subsidized farm, to the corporation you work for also utilizing those things, most likely getting government contracts or preferrable tax rates for extra income. Your individual efforts are nothing in comparison to those things. and have had a far larger effect on who you are, the wealth you have and whatever else. People are not blank slates starting off on equal grounds and wealth and location have a large impact on those things. If you were born in Somalia you would be poor. Not just because you'd be black but because the unclean water you'll have to drink have worms in them destroying your brain at a young age, something Europeans collectively solved long ago.

 

[draggs]

'ate capitalism
luv starvin'

simple as

 

[Troon_Patrol]

I wish I could give you better advice, its very clear the illegals are destroying the middle class, the niggers have never been more entitled to believe they are not required to even seek employment. I never went to college, I had no money for such things and to be honest my grades were never good enough despite being traditionally intelligent. What I lacked in formal education I more than made up for in technical aptitude and determination. I when I was much younger a worked for a real estate office that had been leaving money on the table for decades, 2 months after working there I said "OK, I see we are spending 100K+ on manual labor, why don't we do this in house for 1/4 the cost or better yet just do this ourselves and over-charge the fuck out of the clients, they have been paying 100K for these services for for years, they won't even notice. I'll just create a small LLC and do this myself. $75-$100 an hour is just fine by me. There response was "Oh gee never thought of that".

I can't speak to how legal this is but, if these free social programs are geared towards illegals or niggers who don't feel like working and the money for these programs comes from your taxable income just sign up for the same programs, free housing, free food, free cell phones. You paid for it yourself, the worst they can say is no. Even if you have to commit minor fraud the odds you will ever have to answer for it are so slim it doesn't even matter.