Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

what destroyed runways do, My sides are in orbit.
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My Danish immigrant "Russian" bushcraft Youtuber Lars is back today with a short but fascinating video about an observation he's made from pics of blown up NATO tanks in Ukraine and their tracks being incorrect for the terrain:


Ukrainians haven't removed the rubber pads from their gifted tanks that were designed for city driving and will get you killed in off-road use. He's never done a video like this before and goes out of his way to say it isn't political.
 
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Cpt. Stud Beefpile said:
Western armies in general increasingly composed of furries, niggers, retards, and soon petty criminals when they get desperate enough.
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That’s been the case since the Gulf War, when the army lost control of the narrative and the middle class families that used to supply soldiers (“it’ll build character and teach you leadership”) were able to doubt the narrative and opted to keep their sons home instead.
 
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How many more order 277/completely unimportant cities do the Ukes have left in them? I thought they'd try to bunker down in Chasov Yar but we've already skipped straight to the "War is unfair! Russia has too much ammo! Send us more!" stage which doesn't bode well. People didn't even have time to smuggly post about the 6 gorrilion orcs spent taking each street.
 
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blackjack101 said:
what destroyed runways do, My sides are in orbit.
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“Every weapon has its own right time. F-16s were needed in 2023; they won’t be right for 2024."
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A few planes might have been useful when Ukraine still had the ability to launch a major counteroffensive, they won't help a retreating UAF that's badly overmatched by Russian fire and manpower across a 600 mile front.

“We need howitzers and shells, hundreds of thousands of shells, and rockets,” the officer said, estimating that Ukraine needed four million shells and two million drones.
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And a pony.

But after a meeting with his Polish counterpart, Radek Sikorski, Mr Kuleba upgraded his demand to “all Patriot batteries available around the world that can be provided to Ukraine must be delivered to Ukraine”.
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Every US ally in the world needs to immediately send all of its air defense to Ukraine, where it will be destroyed within weeks.

At their meeting in Brussels, Nato foreign ministers are discussing a $100 billion, five-year military aid package for Ukraine.
The Telegraph reported on Tuesday that the scheme, dubbed Nato Mission Ukraine, was being drawn up to shield Kyiv from the “winds of political change” in the United States
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Faggots think they can bypass American voters in helping themselves to American taxpayer money forever irrespective of how Americans vote. I don't think that's gonna work out for the faggots.

Now they're complaining that those darn ReTHUGlikkans are to blame because NATO manufactures less weapons than North Korea:

“That’s one of the reasons why the Ukrainians have to ration the number of artillery shells, why they have problems standing up against the Russian force with overwhelming military power because they’re able to outgun them with more ammunition and more artillery,” Mr Stoltenberg said.
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Remember these homos wanted you to believe Russia had already run out of shells and missiles, lost 20,000 tanks and suffered 3,000,000 casualties?

Yeah. :story:
 
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Welp, if this isn’t one of the early signs of an army starting to collapse, I dont know what is…

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The video is filmed by a Russian drone, and shows some Ukrops casually killing their comrades, putting them in the boat and leaving. Most likely to avoid being sent into action.

Link here: Check south front out and throw them some shekels if you can. They do good work.


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Faggots think they can bypass American voters in helping themselves to American taxpayer money forever irrespective of how Americans vote. I don't think that's gonna work out for the faggots.
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Lordie, I’ll laugh so Fing hard of Trump just leaves NATO, and explains it with: “Sorry, gotta spend the money here at home!” Leaving the near bankruptcy Brits and Germans arguing who will pay the bill.

And given the political mood in the US, I could see leaving NATO being no big deal among voters. (The elites will of course lose their shit.)
 
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Fapcop said:
Lordie, I’ll laugh so Fing hard of Trump just leaves NATO, and explains it with: “Sorry, gotta spend the money here at home!” Leaving the near bankruptcy Brits and Germans arguing who will pay the bill.

And given the political mood in the US, I could see leaving NATO being no big deal among voters. (The elites will of course lose their shit.)
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Let's be real tho.

Trump is a Boomer whose politics wouldn't have been out of place in the Democratic Party circa 1992. He was never gonna ditch NATO, but he will bully the freeloaders (nearly all of them) into spending the minimum 2% they promised to spend on defense as part of the NATO treaty they've ignored for years and are now crying about Trump threatening.

Trump knows Ukraine is Afghanistan 2.0 - the longer we fight, the more we lose - and will force them to wrap it up asap, which means accepting Russia's victory and signing some kind of peace agreement or ceasefire.

Where that leaves NATO is Failtown. A 32 (lol) country alliance that includes military "powers" like North Macedonia and Latvia is worthless. It's a coalition of the feeble, most NATO members have nothing to offer us by way of mutual defense but are keen to get us to fight their wars for free. That's not Trump's fault, it wasn't his idea to expand NATO beyond the original tight group of credible Western military powers and turn it into the wartime equivalent of The Moopets.
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Sexual Chocolate said:
Let's be real tho.

Trump is a Boomer whose politics wouldn't have been out of place in the Democratic Party circa 1992. He was never gonna ditch NATO, but he will bully the freeloaders (nearly all of them) into spending the minimum 2% they promised to spend on defense as part of the NATO treaty they've ignored for years and are now crying about Trump threatening.

Trump knows Ukraine is Afghanistan 2.0 - the longer we fight, the more we lose - and will force them to wrap it up asap, which means accepting Russia's victory and signing some kind of peace agreement or ceasefire.

Where that leaves NATO is Failtown. A 32 (lol) country alliance that includes military "powers" like North Macedonia and Latvia is worthless. It's a coalition of the feeble, most NATO members have nothing to offer us by way of mutual defense but are keen to get us to fight their wars for free. That's not Trump's fault, it wasn't his idea to expand NATO beyond the original tight group of credible Western military powers and turn it into the wartime equivalent of The Moopets.
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I’m not saying it’s a sure thing that Trump will dump NATO, but it could happen in the right circumstances.

(Remember, folks said he wouldn’t dump the Iran accords either, or shit all over the Paris climate change agreement.)

The awareness that it’s his last turn at the wheel, and his last chance to do something memorable may be a powerful driver to shake things up.

There’s also a border wall that needs funding ;)

If congress starts to pull some bullshit with his funding or won’t fund his programs, I could totally see Trump knock over the playing board by pulling US out of NATO.
 
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If congress starts to pull some bullshit with his funding or won’t fund his programs, I could totally see Trump knock over the playing board by pulling US out of NATO.
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Serious question: what use is NATO to the United States now, beyond as a permanent reminder and symbol of the GAE, and a way to keep Europe in the American orbit? In fact, what does Europe offer that the continental US cannot provide, aside from pseudo intellectual faggotry?
 
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Kane Lives said:
Serious question: what use is NATO to the United States now, beyond as a permanent reminder and symbol of the GAE, and a way to keep Europe in the American orbit? In fact, what does Europe offer that the continental US cannot provide, aside from pseudo intellectual faggotry?
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Myguy… NATO serves the same purpose to America it always has done: Rivers of money for the MIC.

Nope, NATO was never about “mutual defense”. At least it hasnt been for decades.

Whatever brigades other NATO member could scrounge up and send to their American masters bidding were always more symbolic than an actual force multiplier when it came to important tasks like hunting Afghan farmers.

The real purpose of NATO is and always has been to insure that America’s “partners” send billions of dollars to the US for overpriced and underperforming Bradley’s, F35’s, M4s, etc, etc.

In other news…

ZDRADA!
TRAITORS!

Ukraine is apparently reeling and REEing after finding out that Russian intelligence thoroughly penetrated Ukraines energy sector. And Ukrainian cooperation skillfully guided the Khinzals to where they did the most damage.

The Associated Press included the following tidbit in their article about Russia’s latest energy grid strikes:
“’They did a huge intelligence job,’ (director of the Kiev-based Energy Industry Research Center Alexander) Kharchenko said, pointing to the precise nature of the attacks and the damage done. The Russian military seemed to ‘know everything about the current status of many energy infrastructure objects,’ including their defenses.”
The compromised technicians do specialized work that can’t be easily replaced in a possible purge.
It’s unclear why these employees suddenly decided to collaborate with Russia, but it might possibly be that they hope that optimizing the efficacy of its energy grid strikes can hasten an end to their country’s conflict by pressuring Zelensky to resume peace talks.

Here’s a link to the article and a very interesting Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub/korybko/p/russian-spies-infiltrated-ukraines?r=1qxhmp&utm_medium=ios
 
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Corn Syrup Connoisseur said:
I present you the weapon to surpass Metal Gear:
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Apparently a Russian tank with a strapped on generator, batteries and a fuckload of EW modules.
Might be fake or just transporting stuff, but still amusing.
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My favorite part is the pallet for structural integrity. Someone is getting their ass chewed by command for this nigger rig, unless it somehow works.

Edit: you forgot the generator

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Sexual Chocolate said:
Let's be real tho.

Trump is a Boomer whose politics wouldn't have been out of place in the Democratic Party circa 1992. He was never gonna ditch NATO, but he will bully the freeloaders (nearly all of them) into spending the minimum 2% they promised to spend on defense as part of the NATO treaty they've ignored for years and are now crying about Trump threatening.

Trump knows Ukraine is Afghanistan 2.0 - the longer we fight, the more we lose - and will force them to wrap it up asap, which means accepting Russia's victory and signing some kind of peace agreement or ceasefire.

Where that leaves NATO is Failtown. A 32 (lol) country alliance that includes military "powers" like North Macedonia and Latvia is worthless. It's a coalition of the feeble, most NATO members have nothing to offer us by way of mutual defense but are keen to get us to fight their wars for free. That's not Trump's fault, it wasn't his idea to expand NATO beyond the original tight group of credible Western military powers and turn it into the wartime equivalent of The Moopets.
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The allied nations and their waters are territorial vassals for good ole' American force projection. America can just show up, put in airbases, naval bases, 'defensive' missiles to point at Russia and pack up and go home if Russia decides to mobilize and do something about it. Go and just blow up Nordstream to cuck Germany under the cover of a NATO exercise and say a rental minivan full of nazis must have done it etc. This is a very fruitful alliance from the globohomo and Pentagon's perspective otherwise America would not be in it.

Don't get me wrong, the State Dept provoking war in Ukraine and then America's shitzo political system stating that Eurocucks that they cuck should be the ones to cough up the money and bodies to deal with it is first rate trolling. But now there will be a few million American-caused mobiks sitting around Europe's borders that used to not exist. Not a great deal.
 
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Kane Lives said:
Serious question: what use is NATO to the United States now, beyond as a permanent reminder and symbol of the GAE, and a way to keep Europe in the American orbit? In fact, what does Europe offer that the continental US cannot provide, aside from pseudo intellectual faggotry?
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NATO as it exists now is a huge unending liability for the United States.

The upsides are Lockheed Martin weapons sales and kickbacks to US senators (don't forget 10% for the Big Guy), plus the neocon infested State Department gets to implement its gay, evil schemes.

The downsides are that we're now signed up by treaty to fight Total Thermonuclear War for the sake of any one of 31 other countries, most of which Americans couldn't name or find on a map and most of them dogshit meme statelets like Albania or Estonia that can't defend themselves and have nothing to offer the West except criminal gangs and constant begging for aid.

Oh yeah, and we're still pretend allies with Turkey, a country which is not our friend and doesn't have our back, but which we still have to share vital military intelligence and high end military hardware with.
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NATO isn't really an "alliance" anymore, and has no more use as a deterrent. It's too big and none of its members is capable of fighting even a small war without significant American help. In 1984 the USSR had legitimate reasons to fear NATO would nuke them if they invaded Western Europe. In 2024 nobody believes the US is going to launch ICBM's in defence of Montenegro.

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That's why NATO is desperate to keep the Ukraine war going as long as possible. As soon as the music stops, NATO is done. We couldn't defend Ukraine and we can no longer defend the rest of Europe either. Once our losses in Ukraine crystallize into a new geopolitical reality at the negotiating table with Russia, NATO will no longer have any credibility or influence.
 
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