Sweet Baby Inc. and the Steam Curator Group Conspiracy - The company that is responsible for the diarrheic video game writing.

[Adidas Queen]

I haven't seen this posted but it's relevant to the topic. Jonathan Blow discusses the state of programming and games. The disadvantages of remote work, zero interest rates' effect on games, modern work culture, DEI, and more.

Ha ha, I was actually referring to Hell Divers 2.

I saw someone think you were talking about Steller Blade and I assumed the same haha.

 

[AnOminous]

They ban skeletons from their games. I was watching a video of the Overlord anime game localized for China. No skeletons. Including the main character, who is a skeleton in all other media I've seen.

No skeletons, no buy. I will not put up with bigotry against skeletons, especially from chinks.

 

[Baraka Obama]

'cause they're retarded contrarians with no actual arguments. this is literally about the consumers' rights, not whether or not The Crew is a good game.
Remember a couple of pages ago when we were talking about that youtuber that kept saying "don't complain or we'll have another market crash"? these drones are about on the same boat. They're usually the same users that just try to shut down discourses by being retarded spergs that will wilfully miss the point on purposes on any topic regarding anything looking like consumer's or worker's rights.

"the crew is bad lol"
who the cares lol, it's not the point.

The Crew is an online only game.

Online only games are inherently shit and should be disregarded. If you want games which do not have anti consumer online only design then do not buy, do not play, do not engage.

I don't care what you think of The Crew or Diablo 4 or Destiny because all of these games are designed to be anti consumer online only games and should be disregarded from the start.

They are the video game equivalent of a twitch stream. They are disposable content. They are without value.

 

[archive regret]

Regarding Bellular, I think people missed that he all but agrees with Mercante that you can't be racist towards white people. His disagreement seems to be one of context, not content.

A link to that particular comment thread on youtube from his first video on Kotaku that has been renamed to "The Venture Capital Threat People Haven't Noticed".

This shite is typical Bellular slop where he takes absolutely forever to get to the point and basically all you get out of it is the reminder that he, like so many others within YT's Commentary Community, is a professional fence-sitters. Bellular has never not been this way.

I don't mind fence sitting when it comes with good analysis (and Bellular was OK, if needing 2x speed and skipping half the video). The problem here isn't that Bellular sat on the fence, it's that he chose a side and then pretended he didn't.

You can see this in the way he talks about Kotaku. On the positive side they do hard hitting journalism, look at how Jason Schreier broke a story that one time (but don't mention that Jason left Kotaku 4 years ago, or his name). On the negative side Kotaku's headlines can be clickbait, and one time they did an unnecessary fluff piece (but don't mention any of the things people actually hate Kotaku for).

You can see this in the way he talks about SBI detected: on the positive side they're just a consulting group, this is just drama so who cares, and it's a nothing burger where an SBI employee thought a curator group might violate Steam's ToS. On the negative side: nothing, no mention of trying to get Kabrutus personally banned, the best Bellular has is saying he doesn't know much about it and he pleads ignorance.

There's really nothing quite like "news" openly admitting they don't know anything and refuse to do any research while simultaneously picking a side.

So I guess I disagree, I don't think this is typical Bellular slop, I think this really is much worse.

 

[Cheeseknife]

So I guess I disagree, I don't think this is typical Bellular slop, I think this really is much worse.

I listened to some of his content surrounding Blizzard and the long and short of everything was exactly what you are saying--that he would blather on and on about nothing while never really getting to the root of it. This is something a lot of British folks on YouTube do on a regular basis and it baffles me that their audiences think they're providing anything insightful at all.

Even after listening to this video, my point is that I don't think Bellular's opinion is as "mask off" as people are making it. I think he has always been this way, but nobody has the kind of critical thinking or listening skills require to figure out where the woke is coming from.

In fact, I'm going to say that if Cyael or whomever else wasn't telling his viewers to go on the attack, nobody would have given a shit.

This is just Grift Wars. These people were never saving you video games and never were. Bellular just has viewers other YouTubers want and they smelled blood in the water when he didn't bandwagon the SBI hate train.

 

[archive regret]

In fact, I'm going to say that if Cyael or whomever else wasn't telling his viewers to go on the attack, nobody would have given a shit.

This is just Grift Wars. These people were never saving you video games and never were. Bellular just has viewers other YouTubers want and they smelled blood in the water when he didn't bandwagon the SBI hate train.

I think it was more organic than that. It seemed like Bellular's audience really was unhappy, though grifters might have added fuel to that fire. There had to be blood in the water for the sharks to smell.

Also, I think you're referring to the culture warriors as not "saving video games", but as for Bellular I just considered him a vaguely useful aggregator.

Even after listening to this video, my point is that I don't think Bellular's opinion is as "mask off" as people are making it. I think he has always been this way, but nobody has the kind of critical thinking or listening skills require to figure out where the woke is coming from.

Perhaps he really has always been this way. I am not surprised that he chose the industry line. What I found surprising was the way he chose to do so.

Not covering SBI? Makes sense: not really his thing, there's no upside for him, and even when covering Kotaku it's only relevant because it is both recent and emblematic of Kotaku's failures. SBI is a great example, but not a necessary one.

Instead he chose no examples at all. He chose to praise and defend Kotaku without actually acknowledging any of the reasons that it's on the chopping block, preferring strawmen instead. On top of that, his followup video is a worse reiteration where he proudly proclaims (intentional) continued ignorance as a "news" channel.

Is that "mask off"? I don't know, perhaps he's always been this disingenuous and I missed it due to ignorance or lack of attention. But I will admit that I was surprised, so maybe not "mask off" but a lesser "he forgot to put on his makeup" and the news aggregator that looked like a 7 is actually a 4.

 

[CircuSphere]

I listened to some of his content surrounding Blizzard and the long and short of everything was exactly what you are saying--that he would blather on and on about nothing while never really getting to the root of it. This is something a lot of British folks on YouTube do on a regular basis and it baffles me that their audiences think they're providing anything insightful at all.

Even after listening to this video, my point is that I don't think Bellular's opinion is as "mask off" as people are making it. I think he has always been this way, but nobody has the kind of critical thinking or listening skills require to figure out where the woke is coming from.

In fact, I'm going to say that if Cyael or whomever else wasn't telling his viewers to go on the attack, nobody would have given a shit.

This is just Grift Wars. These people were never saving you video games and never were. Bellular just has viewers other YouTubers want and they smelled blood in the water when he didn't bandwagon the SBI hate train.

Like I said before, it was one thing when he was completely out of it but he covered the Kotuku controversy and Suicide Squad failure (and I will bet True & Honest that in his latest video with Suicide Squad as the thumbnail he won't mention SBI either) and as soon as that happens you go from fence sitter to spin doctor.... which is what I will not abide.

Furthermore it just hit me... I learned in a thread about Islam/Israel in A&H that the term 'Fellow Traveler' (also the name of Bellulars publisher) is a long established pre-war term for "someone who is a communist but not officially in the party" used by the Soviets to describe foreign sympathizers. It would be like naming your publishing company 'The Bund' or something on the other side.

Also can I point out how funny it is that he is like "My game is all writing, why would I need a writing consultancy..." while images of Ugly Stick Anne Frank and random black dudes in the Antarctic scroll behind him.

 

[marvlouslie]

I've been getting recs in my Youtube feed about people building their first PC, or their dream PC (since I follow a couple of builders in the space), and it's kind of telling how many people are now getting into PC gaming. Shows you where most everything is headed. Ever since I've gotten into the space myself, I've noticed the community surrounding a lot of the PC side of things is a lot less toxic than console, so, I'm happy to get out of a space where I'm consistently being called racial slurs by a thirteen year old who shouldn't even be playing a MATURE RATED title in the first fuckin' place. Clearly their parents failed them. Yet, when you bring this shit up, suddenly it's OUR fault. No. It can't be the parents fault for not teaching their children appropriately.

Long story short, I just don't want PC to become infected with these same retards we've been dealing with in the console space since the Xbox One / PS4 era. This kind of shit is what drove me away from console (add on top of that Microsoft's new bullshit reporting system)..

 

[Baraka Obama]

I've been getting recs in my Youtube feed about people building their first PC, or their dream PC (since I follow a couple of builders in the space), and it's kind of telling how many people are now getting into PC gaming. Shows you where most everything is headed. Ever since I've gotten into the space myself, I've noticed the community surrounding a lot of the PC side of things is a lot less toxic than console, so, I'm happy to get out of a space where I'm consistently being called racial slurs by a thirteen year old who shouldn't even be playing a MATURE RATED title in the first fuckin' place. Clearly their parents failed them. Yet, when you bring this shit up, suddenly it's OUR fault. No. It can't be the parents fault for not teaching their children appropriately.

Long story short, I just don't want PC to become infected with these same retards we've been dealing with in the console space since the Xbox One / PS4 era. This kind of shit is what drove me away from console (add on top of that Microsoft's new bullshit reporting system)..

What year do you live in?

Use any racial slur and your account gets auto banned by woke Microsoft and Sony.

PC building is currently in a weird space with affordability in the toilet; the youtubers even admit this.

 

[Google.com]

I'm consistently being called racial slurs by a thirteen year old who shouldn't even be playing a MATURE RATED title in the first fuckin' place. Clearly their parents failed them. Yet, when you bring this shit up, suddenly it's OUR fault. No. It can't be the parents fault for not teaching their children appropriately.

Don't worry soon you will be legally required to give a copy of your ID, birth certificate, and social security card to microsoft and sony to play any mature games. It's to protect the kids though

 

[marvlouslie]

What year do you live in?

Use any racial slur and your account gets auto banned by woke Microsoft and Sony.

PC building is currently in a weird space with affordability in the toilet; the youtubers even admit this.

You can easily build a decent gaming PC for under $700 bucks. Most people don't want to look around for deals and think it's unaffordable.

Not once have I ever seen someone RIGHTFULLY banned with appropriate markers on console.
A friend of mine was literally comm banned for a week over saying "GGs" once to someone they beat in a 2k game.

Also, black people get to say "Nigga" all the time in voice chat, but a nonblack person saying it? BAN.

 

[CircuSphere]

You can easily build a decent gaming PC for under $700 bucks. Most people don't want to look around for deals and think it's unaffordable.

Not once have I ever seen someone RIGHTFULLY banned with appropriate markers on console.
A friend of mine was literally comm banned for a week over saying "GGs" once to someone they beat in a 2k game.

It's all about who you piss off. You could drive like an absolute genocidal monster in Forza causing crash after crash, intentionally ramming people out in every braking zone and it would be months before you caught a ban but tap 'that guy' in a close race who keeps the report form open on his phone and catch 2 weeks with no warning at all. I knew people who would have report wars, who would try to find each others alts and get them banned, it was fucking tarded.

There is no budget for this internet nanny shit, it's entirely driven by squeaky wheels complaining to Pajeet call centers and power tripping admins. The end result is so inconsistent it's laughable, to any uninformed observer it looks like a total free for all, but the rules are actually very strict and they can drop the hammer on you at any time. Like open container laws in NYC, it's cool until it isn't.

 

[marvlouslie]

There is no budget for this internet nanny shit, it's entirely driven by squeaky wheels complaining to Pajeet call centers and power tripping admins. The end result is so inconsistent it's laughable, to any uninformed observer it looks like a total free for all, but the rules are actually very strict and they can drop the hammer on you at any time. Like open container laws in NYC, it's cool until it isn't.

This is why when I had consoles, I always stuck to single player games, and very, very rarely would venture out in multiplayer spaces. When I did, I muted EVERYONE. I only voice chatted with people I knew. The Nanny State infiltrating gaming makes it legitimately difficult to actually make friends.

 

[Cheeseknife]

I think it was more organic than that.

It isn't "organic" by default. Bellular is a dude with a camera and a YouTube channel. Attacking him for having the wrotlng opinion is exactly where the faggots in the industry want everyone to be.

They want all these commentary channels tard-wrangled and corralled into a corner where they're fighting each other and not focusing on anything that actually matters.

 

[marvlouslie]

They want all these commentary channels tard-wrangled and corralled into a corner where they're fighting each other and not focusing on anything that actually matters.

This is what pissed me off with the initial gamergate shit. Everyone's making videos mocking this or that particular retard for saying dumb shit. I think this time this shit has pissed off enough people to where they can't be controlled (which is why you're seeing a bunch of lashing out at the moment) anymore. They know they're losing the argument. That little rant by the French (LOL. French) IGN director showed you how much it pisses them off that people aren't listening to them anymore. It won't make much of an impact in the overall space, because normies are going to consoom no matter what, but it MIGHT get enough people to actually pay attention to what's going on the more they[journos] expose themselves for being genuine pieces of shit.

 

[CircuSphere]

This is why when I had consoles, I always stuck to single player games, and very, very rarely would venture out in multiplayer spaces. When I did, I muted EVERYONE. I only voice chatted with people I knew. The Nanny State infiltrating gaming makes it legitimately difficult to actually make friends.

The populations on each game are different and the populations on each platform are different. On PC it's a lot of younger gen-x and older millennials and things tend to be pretty polite/on mission if a bit spergy. On Xbox Gamespass really floods the place with trash. There are always some ones Spanish mom yelling in the background and muhfugga bix noods antagonizing each other and everyone else, and a lot of squeekers. On PS (from crossplay) most don't even talk it seems, it hasn't been bad though (there was even a girl but that group was ass even low risk grinding level 4 bots).

Also on PC compared to both Xbox and PS there are way less feeding back and broken static blasting mics.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

, just like they did RDR2...for a week and then never again.
An anticipated follow up a massively popular franchise that is bigger, has better graphics and is meant to be better in everyway, has killed a lot of games. RDR2 and Cyberpunk are recent examples.

Those sold extremely well long term.





Red dead 2 was selling better years into its life cycle than almost any other game ever made:

Averaging 9 million a year 4-6 years after release. Thats more than something like Devil May Cry 5 will sell in its entire life.

 

[Peaches the Wonder Cat]

I'm happy RDR2 was on gamepass, that shit was boring.

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

This is why when I had consoles, I always stuck to single player games, and very, very rarely would venture out in multiplayer spaces. When I did, I muted EVERYONE. I only voice chatted with people I knew. The Nanny State infiltrating gaming makes it legitimately difficult to actually make friends.

Single player games are the way to go. Avoid other people altogether and just don't pay for online.

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

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