Science Geoengineering Test Quietly Launches Salt Crystals into Atmosphere - A solar geoengineering experiment in San Francisco could lead to brighter clouds that reflect sunlight. The risks are numerous

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An aerial view of a layer of stratocumulus clouds.

The nation's first outdoor test to limit global warming by increasing cloud cover launched Tuesday from the deck of a decommissioned aircraft carrier in the San Francisco Bay.

The experiment, which organizers didn't widely announce to avoid public backlash, marks the acceleration of a contentious field of research known as solar radiation modification. The concept involves shooting substances such as aerosols into the sky to reflect sunlight away from the Earth.

The move led by researchers at the University of Washington has renewed questions about how to effectively and ethically study promising climate technologies that could also harm communities and ecosystems in unexpected ways. The experiment is spraying microscopic salt particles into the air, and the secrecy surrounding its timing caught even some experts off guard.

"Since this experiment was kept under wraps until the test started, we are eager to see how public engagement is being planned and who will be involved," said Shuchi Talati, the executive director of the Alliance for Just Deliberation on Solar Geoengineering, a nonprofit that seeks to include developing countries in decisions about solar modification, also known as geoengineering.

"While it complies with all current regulatory requirements, there is a clear need to reexamine what a strong regulatory framework must look like in a world where [solar radiation modification] experimentation is happening," she added.

The Coastal Atmospheric Aerosol Research and Engagement, or CAARE, project is using specially built sprayers to shoot trillions of sea salt particles into the sky in an effort to increase the density — and reflective capacity — of marine clouds. The experiment is taking place, when conditions permit, atop the USS Hornet Sea, Air & Space Museum in Alameda, California, and will run through the end of May, according to a weather modification form the team filed with federal regulators.

The project comes as global heat continues to obliterate monthly and yearly temperature records and amid growing interest in solar radiation modification from Silicon Valley funders and some environmental groups. It also follows the termination of a Harvard University experiment last month that planned to inject reflective aerosols into the stratosphere near Sweden before it was canceled after encountering opposition from Indigenous groups.

Solar radiation modification is controversial because widespread use of technologies like marine cloud brightening could alter weather patterns in unclear ways and potentially limit the productivity of fisheries and farms. It also wouldn't address the main cause of climate change — the use of fossil fuels — and could lead to a catastrophic spike in global temperatures if major geoengineering activities were discontinued before greenhouse gases decrease to manageable levels.

The University of Washington and SilverLining, a geoengineering research advocacy group involved in the CAARE project, declined interview requests. The mayor of Alameda, where the experiment is being conducted, didn't respond to emailed questions about the project.

The secrecy surrounding the landmark experiment seems to have been by design, according to The New York Times, which, along with a local newspaper, was granted exclusive access to cover the initial firing of the spray cannons.

"The idea of interfering with nature is so contentious, organizers of Tuesday's test kept the details tightly held, concerned that critics would try to stop them," the Times reported. The White House also distanced itself from the experiment, which is being conducted with the cooperation of a Smithsonian-affiliated museum.

The project team has touted its transparency, noting that visitors to the USS Hornet, which now serves as a floating museum, will be able to view the experiment.

"The world needs to rapidly advance its understanding of the effects of aerosol particles on climate,” Kelly Wanser, the executive director of SilverLining, said in a press release. "With a deep commitment to open science and a culture of humility, the University of Washington has developed an approach that integrates science with societal engagement, and can help society in essential steps toward advancing science, developing regulations, promoting equitable and effective decision-making, and building shared understanding in these areas."

The CAARE project is part of a larger coastal study that the University of Washington consortium is planning to pursue. The second phase of that effort would take place on a pier around a mile offshore in a coastal environment, according to a study description the school released Monday.

While a peer review of that proposal was generally positive, the scientists also flagged some transparency shortcomings.

"One reviewer noted that it would help to have more information on the site location," said a Washington-University-commissioned report. "Is there local resistance or concerns (whether founded or unfounded) around issues like local air quality, etc.? How many options exist, and how do different options affect the field study plan?"

The study plan also made no mention of its potential ecological impacts, a key consideration recommended by a 2022 Biden administration marine cloud brightening workshop. That's a significant oversight, according to Greg Goldsmith, the associate dean for research and development at Chapman University.

"History has shown us that when we insert ourselves into modification of nature, there are always very serious unintended consequences," said Goldsmith, who studies the implications of climate change for plant structure and function. "And therefore, it would be prudent to listen to what history has shown and look for consequences."

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The work, known as marine cloud brightening, is controversial and is just one method of geoengineering — which describes interventions meant to slow Earth’s warming. But proponents say the technology may be needed to mitigate climate change.

To brighten clouds, researchers spray microscopic sea salt into the air over the ocean to boost clouds’ reflectivity. This means less sunlight is absorbed, leading to a planetary cooling effect.
The scientists from the University of Washington are experimenting with the size and concentration of sea salt particles emitted from a spray machine. Cloud brightening has been simulated by computer models, but the field work is the first of its kind in North America and only the second of its kind in the world. The foggy climate of the Bay Area, the researchers say, is ideal for these experiments.
But scientists are just beginning to test cloud brightening in the real world, and they aren’t yet sure whether it will actually work. Simulations project that if 15% of Earth’s marine clouds were brightened, the globe would cool by roughly a degree, said Rob Wood, the lead scientist for the project and a professor at the University of Washington.
“If you increase the number of cloud droplets by increasing the number of sea salt particles, it’s like increasing the number of mirrors to reflect sunlight back to space,” Wood said.

In fact, particles from human pollution, such as wood burning and vehicular exhaust, provide a cooling, a slight offset to the greenhouse warming effect. Bad air quality is linked to health problems like asthma, so over the last decades, officials have ratcheted up regulations, and global air quality has generally improved. But recent studies find clouds are becoming less reflective as pollution declines, accelerating Earth’s warming trend.
From a large machine resembling a giant snow maker, the group at the Hornet sprays salt water into the air. As the salty plume moves downwind, the water evaporates, leaving behind tiny salt particles nearly a thousand times smaller than the width of a human hair. In the coming months, the scientists will document what happens in the atmosphere.

“We take those measurements and the (weather) conditions on the flight deck … and we’ll see how the model simulations of the plume compares to what we measure,” said Sarah Doherty, the director of the program and an atmospheric scientist at the University of Washington.
Scientists say the implementation of large-scale marine cloud brightening projects and other geoengineering technologies is still years or decades away, if it is feasible at all.

Geoengineering is a complicated science in its early days. And climate interventions raise serious social, political and economic questions. But global warming is accelerating — 2023 was Earth’s hottest year on record. And geoengineering alone won’t solve climate change.

Scientists like Russell say that before more drastic solutions are deployed, the focus should be on reining in greenhouse gas emissions and making further investments in solar and wind power.

“Emitting particles to offset global warming is not the smartest idea … but it may be better than doing nothing,” Russell said. “Given the point we’re at with warming and climate change, we feel it’s important to know what our options are.”
 
How cute that they sneak around and literally do shit behind everyones back and then act like this is the "first time." any historical prior attempts at increasing rain and cloud cover have done some pretty fucking wacky or nasty shit to local environments. Big one that usually gets brought up is Operation Sober Popeye where they just shot a bunch of actually toxic shit into clouds to increase rain to gain a war advantage. The article does actually bring up that some people know about the historical shit and are concerned which makes this even funnier to me.
 
So does anyone else feel like a retard for not understanding how this could possibly work?

Salt dissolves in water. Smaller crystals dissolve faster because greater surface area = more reactive surface per unit mass. Anything heavier than air has to be really fucking tiny to get effectively aerosolized. Clouds are water vapor. I know water vapor behaves differently to liquid water, but it's still a bunch of dissociated H+ and OH- ions bouncing around that would just fucking love to latch onto the Na+ and Cl- ions in the salt. So...how the hell do you seed clouds with salt and not just wind up with mildly saline rain at the end of it? 😵‍💫
 
which organizers didn't widely announce to avoid public backlash

That's morally and legally correct now, right? We can do anything we want as long as we don't tell anyone about it leading up to the event? I don't recall any sort of legislature debate about this fundamental change to the law, but then again that would also seem to be apt under these new circumstances.
 
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One can hope, but the boring answer is probably gonna be that there's gonna be slightly more salt in the rain than usual. But maybe, just maybe, God might get mad at mortals playing around with forces they can't understand.
 
Oh, and by the way adding salt to clouds has an overall warming effect on the environment:

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So... either the chemtrail enjoyers are insane (possible) or maybe just grifters (pretty much a given) or they have malign intent to make anthropomorphic climate change a real thing thus adding to their grift in perpetuity like that odd subplot in that odd film Highlander 2 (possible) or... the scientists in the 70s who warned of an impending Ice Age have always been correct, but the powers that be have decided we'd freak out if they acknowledged this and so have asserted the exact opposite is happening yet are now going to try things to heat up the troposphere on the down low (frankly wishful fucking thinking).
 
"History has shown us that when we insert ourselves into modification of nature, there are always very serious unintended consequences,"
No shit, Sherlock. Press x for doubt that these asshats care about saving the planet, they want their climate communism tranny bullshit, come the Dune-hellscape like they currently claim or a man-made ice age, either way, they'd win in that.
 
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