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This is why I love working from home.Fortunately I was in the engineering space on a Naval carrier and could scream without anybody else noticing between the general sound level and the required hearing protection.
NIGGA WHAT? HOW IS THAT A COMIC ABOUT GENDER DYSPHORIA? The only way I can see this comic being about GD is if you think transition is the solution to feeling this way. (Spoiler alert, it's not)This brought to mind something I saw on Xitter.
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What I wonder though is, what does it mean to feel "like a person". How can the (in this case, obviously autistic) individual know that they feel something that others do not, or conversely that they lack something that other have? It seems more like the problem is the feeling of disconnection itself is the delusion, it's a maladaptive though process that should be directly interrogated, rather than treated as the the sign to search for a reason why it's occurring.
In fact, given AGP, it seems more like trans ideation helps suppress this though pattern via endorphin release. They mistake the relief and positive feelings they experience from the paraphilia as healing the disconnect, but obviously it doesn't, and functions more like an addiction.
NIGGA WHAT? HOW IS THAT A COMIC ABOUT GENDER DYSPHORIA? The only way I can see this comic being about GD is if you think transition is the solution to feeling this way. (Spoiler alert, it's not)
It can be so many things, the people replying to the comic saying they've felt the same but for different reasons is a perfect example. I think it has a lot to do with overthinking, anxiety, depression, and especially social isolation. But making social connections actually does help a lot with this.
Although this feeling persists for me in some social situations, I still fight through it and I come out happier for having talked to people, even if at the time I was having an internal dialog similar to the comic. This doesn't have shit to do with gender identity and I am beyond annoyed that the artist created a genuinely good comic to describe a complicated feeling, only to say "lol it's about being a tranny" like come the fuck on.
Calling bullshit on that (which I realize is unnecessary here) because I've never in my life heard a doctors phrase that question as "about what time of my period am I at" (and I don't just mean the awkward grammar); they'll usually always ask "about when was your last period". These dudes seem not to understand that "period" is simply a euphemism/colloquialism for "menstruation", and that menstruation is just a part (the gross part) of the menstrual cycle; that or they don't even comprehend that it is, in fact, an internally regulated cycling of fertility and not just an arbitrary occurrence of monthly bloating and mood swings for feminine funsies-- which would be consistent with their complete ignorance about the actual functioning of the female reproductive system (or the human reproductive system in general).
This is a brilliant formulation, and I think you're really onto something, as least as far as the Tumblr/Twitter/Discord crowd goes. Probably explains the strong overlap between "queer" and actual geek fandoms/weebshit/the furry scene as well (along with a healthy dose of Geek Social Fallacies). It's also likely not a coincidence that so many troons of the terminally online sort, like Kevin Gibes and Keffals, were previously baby edgelords posting on 4chan and elsewhere. (See also Zoe Quinn, who apparently was a regular of Helldump on SA back in the day.)...the imagined community of "Queer Leftists" that exists right now... is an ideological movement not unlike a cult, but I would actually say they are closer to a fandom than anything.
A tranny getting upset because a man *does* want to sexualize him? That's a first. Although he's clearly HSTS rather than AGP, so perhaps that makes a difference.Gay man with boyfriend craves infinite drama and victimhood. <== My interpretation.
This passing comment in the replies is revealing:This brought to mind something I saw on Xitter.
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I keep hearing stories of mean ol' terfs taking pictures and grimacing at troons. It's either bullshit or we need to somehow reach out to the Old Broad demographic so we can see some of these photos they're taking.Was waiting for the bus in my black skirt and Alice in wonderland leggings and this lady next to me takes a pic of me whilst giving me really creepy/dirty looks. I ask her if why and she stared into my eyes and said "sex is real" My dudes and gals I cannot even get the bus Pure brain rot
People here often call them cultish and that is one of the 'benefits' people who join cults look for.Makes me wonder how many young people out there are getting drawn into gender shit not because of dysphoria or sad brain or weird psychosexual shit or whatever, but just the plain old desire to have a group to fit into.
Tbh Ive felt akin to this, not depersonalization but existentialism in general. "Who am I" "What am I doing" "Why am I here" "Am I a man?" "How do people perceive me" etc etc. Those are pretty normal I guess and its sometimes an uphill battle against the brain in an age of troonism/social media cause the brain is extremely suggestive and pretty scary in manipulation if you dont have willful control over it or are capable of exerting a sense of self. Its scary to me that if Id gotten into these hive minds, these people wouldve ruined me with all sorts of nonsense.
What I wonder though is, what does it mean to feel "like a person". How can the (in this case, obviously autistic) individual know that they feel something that others do not, or conversely that they lack something that other have? It seems more like the problem is the feeling of disconnection itself is the delusion, it's a maladaptive though process that should be directly interrogated, rather than treated as the the sign to search for a reason why it's occurring.
Maybe only some are picky?
Back on track.
NB and genderfluid are part of the team! Oh yes indeed!
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Twenty one comments so far .
Different slants in a way, but they all agree on total inclusion.tee hee
Here's the one I find most amusing.
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Someone please tell young men and woman they can act "feminine and masculine" and that was never illegal. Asked an NB to explain why they couldnt just be their sex and do the exact same things and got nothing sensible in return.
I wish I could react "Dumb" in a way that conveys I mean the content of the screenshots and not the post. This is every new age hippy, every psychic medium, every chi energy flow reiki motherfucker out there that claims to be able to feel "things" in an nonspecific but super mystical way. Only we're also supposed to pretend it's not that because gender is involved.
It is mystifying. Social tolerance of GNC looks and behavior in the West has never been higher. Being a total swishy & gushy glitter tossing fag is tolerated. Men wearing makeup and painting their nails is tolerated. Being an androgynous or even outright masculine looking/dressing/behaving/working female is tolerated. All "gender expressions" are hybrids now. There's very little 100% trad gender anything (work, roles, etc) and yet they're all so hyper fixated on "gender". And costuming up and performing it. The only thing I can think of is that with the young people there's no concept of having a long life where you change as you mature. Or maybe there is a concept, but they're scared to death of it and want to stop time (and customize their "presentation of self") right where they are.
I can't remember where I read it, but someone was describing it as the "profilic" anchoring of identity, as in social media profile. As "genderfuck" and punk as these NBidiots try to be, everything they do is tailored to social media relevance and virality. Hell, it's not even just genderspecials, look at how Keffals or Hasan Piker have fucking mental breaks every time they have a bad stream or get criticized.
It's an entire society centred around the "pick me" mentality, via parasocial validation. Who you define yourself as matters less than the fact that people like you for it.
That's why Null was right to ban reaction scores
This brought to mind something I saw on Xitter.
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What I wonder though is, what does it mean to feel "like a person". How can the (in this case, obviously autistic) individual know that they feel something that others do not, or conversely that they lack something that other have? It seems more like the problem is the feeling of disconnection itself is the delusion, it's a maladaptive though process that should be directly interrogated, rather than treated as the the sign to search for a reason why it's occurring.
In fact, given AGP, it seems more like trans ideation helps suppress this though pattern via endorphin release. They mistake the relief and positive feelings they experience from the paraphilia as healing the disconnect, but obviously it doesn't, and functions more like an addiction.
The comic person was smart enough to elloquently describe what they are feeling but still retarded enough to fall for the dumbest possible explanation.
Its really frustating with these spergs. Everytime they come close to actually figuring something out they push the pedal to the maximum in the wrong direction. Is like a joke that keeps happening, i guess their brain have enough neurons making the correct synapsis but they mongoloid ego and wishful thinking will still not let them see it
Externalization is a typical coping method.This passing comment in the replies is revealing:
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Makes me wonder how many young people out there are getting drawn into gender shit not because of dysphoria or sad brain or weird psychosexual shit or whatever, but just the plain old desire to have a group to fit into.
Literally all of them. With the exception of the autistics who don't understand what they're being groomed into, for these kids it's just the new 'bisexual phase' i.e. the thing you do to get attention and maybe piss off your parents.Makes me wonder how many young people out there are getting drawn into gender shit not because of dysphoria or sad brain or weird psychosexual shit or whatever, but just the plain old desire to have a group to fit into.
Barnum effect in comic form.It can be so many things, the people replying to the comic saying they've felt the same but for different reasons is a perfect example. I think it has a lot to do with overthinking, anxiety, depression, and especially social isolation. But making social connections actually does help a lot with this.
I’ve been thinking about this as a wider concept recently, along with threads on people having no inner monologue or inner ‘reflection/thought.’ I don’t think I’m quite at the extreme viewpoint that some people are literal NPCs or P-zombies. But I am certainly of the opinion that at the very least society is having a crisis of sense of self, and is experiencing damage to its ‘inner selves ‘ from too much insta-stimulation from social media and screens.This passing comment in the replies is revealing:
That’s perhaps a slightly different and less bad thing even though it’s unpleasant to go through . An existential crisis drives growth. You’re asking the questions, and depending on what you find you may change or grow considerably. I would consider such a crisis or questioning phase almost a prerequisite for being fully human.Tbh Ive felt akin to this, not depersonalization but existentialism in general. "Who am I" "What am I doing" "Why am I here" "Am I a man?" "How do people perceive me" etc etc. Those are pretty normal I guess and its sometimes an uphill battle against the brain in an age of troonism/social media cause the brain is extremely suggestive and pretty scary in manipulation if you dont have willful control over it or are capable of exerting a sense of self. It’s scary to me that if Id gotten into these hive minds, these people wouldve ruined me with all sorts of nonsense.
You probably know about the matter more than I do, however I've heard a theory that "a self" may somehow be connected with mirror neurons. "Self" seems pretty much like a reflection of one's own inner states aka introspection. Now, one of the theories of autistic disorder implies problems with the same mirror neurons. Do severely autistic people have a "self"? Hard to say but their self is probably impaired significantly. Trannydom correlates with autism, hence NPC behaviour theory may have some ground.reflection/thought.’ I don’t think I’m quite at the extreme viewpoint that some people are literal NPCs or P-zombies.
Also, makes me ponder on the autism stats. Does autism rate grow because we have just become better at catching it? Or because of certain external factors?society is having a crisis of sense of self, and is experiencing damage to its ‘inner selves ‘ from too much insta-stimulation from social media and screens.
I agree. I would honestly not care if all the "gender" kids were doing was cross dressing and putting on lipstick badly. Every kid has a right to their developmentally normal Dumb Embarrassing Teenage Phase. I wore nothing but black and read nothing but French novels in the original. I grew out of it and started reading only Japanese novels in translation. Every child evolves.Literally all of them. With the exception of the autistics who don't understand what they're being groomed into, for these kids it's just the new 'bisexual phase' i.e. the thing you do to get attention and maybe piss off your parents.
And just like how most bisexual LARPers never had a homosexual experience before dropping the act, these kids will never commit to the gender cult beyond dying their hair or wearing a dumb outfit and it will be out of their system by the time they reach their 20s.
I'd read the shit out of it.I feel like I need to write a book about this, it makes a lot of thought come buzzing through
I wonder the same on cluster B disorrder when they say they're feeling hollow. I wonder if deep thought would be a good place for this?Do severely autistic people have a "self"? Hard to say but their self is probably impaired significantly. Trannydom correlates with autism, hence NPC behaviour theory may have some ground.
This is true, which is why for once I hope troons are right and this really isn't happening to kids in significant numbers (although any number above zero is obviously unacceptable).The true and great harm has been the willingness of the medical profession to go along with this (natural, expected) adolescent bullshit and hand out drugs and surgery that cause irreversible severe harm.
I feel like very very few people on the planet have a solid grasp on every aspect of their identity 100% of the time. Its fine and normal because identity is something which changes with time and experience. But the problem is the brain. Ive had mine throwing all sorts of suggestions sometimes including troonism against my own will and intuition. Not completely "I want to be a woman" but "It would be cool to see how women experience the world". That suggestiveness imo is toxic because it opens the rationalistic part of intuition to be receptive to suggestion and thats a very slippery slope into who knows what. If the person is not aware and if solid boundaries are not maintained that is pretty much the end. I dont quite do the second part of depersonalization but I do experience a lack of self sometimes when I feel lonely and isolated. I think almost half of a persons identity is defined in relation to others, double moreso when you compare yourself to others like I do. Ive thought about this - if a trans person was on an island they wouldnt be trans, if a gay person was on an island they wouldnt be gay. A lot of identitarian factors are downstream from human relations but I get the fact that existing only in relation to others is a problem. Also politics now devolving into tribalism is the classic Carl Schmitt Friend Enemy distinction. Its funny how many people get their modern political attitudes from a Nazi. You should write a book though, Im attempting to write one on what I call the "Causal Pathology" where people are afflicted with the need for communitarianism and moral supremacy.That’s perhaps a slightly different and less bad thing even though it’s unpleasant to go through . An existential crisis drives growth. You’re asking the questions, and depending on what you find you may change or grow considerably. I would consider such a crisis or questioning phase almost a prerequisite for being fully human.
The lack of sense of self, depersonalisation, existing only in relation to others - that’s not the same thing IMO. It’s much worse.
I also think that it’s happening to society at large - politics now is basically ‘we aren’t the other guy’ or defining yourself in relation to others.
I feel like I need to write a book about this, it makes a lot of thought come buzzing through