The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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it's a given that you usually cannot brick an usb device by hotplugging it, if you could that would be a fundamental problem in the electric design of the invovled devices, not an OS problem.
It wasn't USB but in early Linux there was a persistent problem with printers being attached to Linux systems catching on fire.
It got so bad they had to add a new kernel feature to add a message to the user that the printer might be on fire and they should check it.

 
If you want these features you need to use Professional or an Enterprise version of Windows which I don't know if a small business can afford a license for, assuming they don't simply pirate it and then you need to modify the group policy settings irc.
I do pirate the enterprise version for my home VM, this BS still happens even with all the registry tweaks and group policies I can find and edit. I’ve no idea which version work uses, I don’t know where to check and don’t have admin password to fix it anyway, but one solution which does work is to reboot the computer, then physically disconnecting the network overnight. If there was an update it’ll install during the reboot, and without networking it can’t ruin your job by downloading the latest surprise solitaire collection 1.344rc4 update at midnight.
 
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It wasn't USB but in early Linux there was a persistent problem with printers being attached to Linux systems catching on fire.
It got so bad they had to add a new kernel feature to add a message to the user that the printer might be on fire and they should check it.

That was nothing to do with Linux though, it was just early printers being even more garbage than modern ones.
 
It wasn't USB but in early Linux there was a persistent problem with printers being attached to Linux systems catching on fire.
Yeah but that was more of an ancient hardware problem that predated Linux and you could easily destroy early monitors in a similar ways by running them out of spec. Hardware didn't use the be idiot proof in general. My first computer had expansion slots that were not keyed, if you put in an expansion card the wrong way (which was entirely possible with some cards and didn't even look wrong if you didn't know better) you just blew up a few ICs. Hotplugging was also dangerous. On the very same computer I murdered two ICs (one of them the graphics chip) by accidentally pulling the video connector and, not wanting to turn it off, replugging it while the system was running. That system you also just turned off when you were done, no unmounting of that 100-odd MB harddrive. I think the latter part I missed for many years the most, just hitting the power button and the system is off and you're done. HATED that about later PCs. I guess going to sleep like they do now is also good tho.
 
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I doubt even Windows Ultra SSJ Professional Fresh Lemon Smell lets you disable updates at this point. With Linux, you get what you pay for but with Windows you pay to tell customers at 8.00 AM to come later after your system finishes updating or risk losing half 'a year worth of data.
This might sound like a creepypasta, but it is real. Even Windows 10 Professional will at one point force restart your computer to apply updates if you do not apply them for a long enough time.

I don't know what the reasoning behind it is, but the button to postpone it for X time is grey, and your only option is to try and save everything you have open within the 5-10 seconds it gives you before the restart. This only happened to me once, but it happened in the worst possible moment. I am forever scarred by this.

I did see someone complain on twitter about this at one point, but they mainly got negative replies because "if the OS doesn't even let you decline an update, it's time to update" or some stupid shit like that.

Skill issue, I know, I should have disabled the update service entirely, but I had no idea Windows could take control like that and deny me any ability to stop it, especially on Professional.
 
This might sound like a creepypasta, but it is real. Even Windows 10 Professional will at one point force restart your computer to apply updates if you do not apply them for a long enough time.

I don't know what the reasoning behind it is, but the button to postpone it for X time is grey, and your only option is to try and save everything you have open within the 5-10 seconds it gives you before the restart. This only happened to me once, but it happened in the worst possible moment. I am forever scarred by this.

I did see someone complain on twitter about this at one point, but they mainly got negative replies because "if the OS doesn't even let you decline an update, it's time to update" or some stupid shit like that.

Skill issue, I know, I should have disabled the update service entirely, but I had no idea Windows could take control like that and deny me any ability to stop it, especially on Professional.
It supposedly only forces an update reboot if the update has been queued for a week. But FUCKING NOTIFY ME DURING THAT WEEK THEN. I don’t mind “would you like to reboot?” popping up, if it just either lets me choose “no, postpone” or “sure, whatever”, 99% of the time I can just save, close, and go refill my coffee thermos while it updates, but that other 1% of the time forcing a reboot is really very not good indeed.
“Hurr just make a habit of hitting ctrl-s regularly and the reboot won’t cost you so wasted work”
Some of us use computers for more than just editing text files. I do manually save very frequently, but if three hours of processor time gets wasted by a random reboot, me being able to restart the work easily the next day when I return does me just about no good, when macOS or Linux wouldn’t have rebooted without asking me in the first place.
 
This seems to be more about how Linux handles drives regardless of the file system. NTFS has that issue where files cannot be modified when they're in use, which is why to this day Windows updates require a system restart to update system files before the system is fully running, and Linux can update while running.
Windows 10 did introduce POSIX-style deletes, which as the name suggests work exactly as they do on Linux. I'm guessing Windows Update doesn't use them, though.
 
It wasn't USB but in early Linux there was a persistent problem with printers being attached to Linux systems catching on fire.
It got so bad they had to add a new kernel feature to add a message to the user that the printer might be on fire and they should check it.

The wikipedia article literally says otherwise. It's just a fallback error message. Like ORA-99999 but a bit more useful.

Talking to guys who were systems operators back in the 80s who had to babysit high-speed tractor-feed printers, while the printers might not actually have caught fire, if they stopped printing for any reason you most certainly wanted to know about it and fix it as soon as possible (assuming that you worked far enough away- perhaps 100 yards and several walls- not to hear it stop hammering). Any of those old minicomputer systems would have let you know on your console if shit was going wrong.
 
Dare I say what size your system drive is? 100GB?
Since it seems strangely relevant to the recent spergathon, you're pretty close - it's a ~220G SSD, with ~110 for Linux, and ~110 for Win10: Stuff I actually want to keep sits on a seperate 2T drive, or over on a NAS. (When I built it, it was a Linux/Win7 box, but Microsoft will Microsoft).
The reason for dual-booting is I quite like Elite Dangerous, but I'll be damned if I'm going to tard-wrangle that, my HOTAS and a fucking Oculus Rift into Wine or some shit. But, I'll also be damned if I'm going to let MS peer over my shoulder all the time and occasionally reboot my PC because they've updated some minor shit, and can't figure out any other way to switch over.
But, this is why we get into autistic slap-fights over which OS is "Better" - they're just different, and if you try to turn Linux into idiot-proof consumer tech, or MS into customisable do-anything tech, you'll just inherit the shitty parts from the other, too.
Mac are, of course, their own special breed of retard which takes the worst part of each, but at least their users can show off how much disposable income they have.
Anyway, there's only one BEST OS, and that's OS/400. The late 90's is the last time I actually understood everything that was going on.
:(
(Oh, and for anyone wondering: The actual problem was pamac compiling an update. Ditching ~40G of what-the-fuck-even-is-this-shit out of /var/tmp worked nicely: I still have the 7.5G LOTR audio book bundle I downloaded (and am trying to repack into something more manageable), and my infinity+1 Deus Ex saved games. Good times.)
 
it's a ~220G SSD, with ~110 for Linux, and ~110 for Win10
Yeaaah I'd say 220GB is too little for a single OS, let alone split in half for dual booting. My C drive sits at ~124GB of used space, and the previous one (before I fucked up my Windows install on it with gparted fuckery) was 500GB and I was gliding at above half of it's capacity. Modern OS' are hogs in general. If I were you, I'd get a 1TB SSD and split it in half. Better to have an excess than a deficit.

Also, Linux has arguably the best software suite for type 1 hypervisors, better than what Microsoft offers with Hyper-V. You could probably run Windows 10 from Linux at near bare metal performance without a need for dual booting, and you'd solve a whole bunch of hassles of dual booting. Having to restart every time you want to play one game, not having your regular software suite on the other OS, Windows being able to peer into the Linux partition and so on.

Of course that has it's own issues, like ring 0 anti-cheats refusing to work, the minimal loss of performance or the general fuckery needed to pull it off with a GPU passthrough and all that jazz, but maybe you could pull it off since you already daily drive Linux and it would fit your use case well. Then you'd boot up Windows within Linux, and when you're done, you close it like you would your browser. Super convenient, super comfy.
 
Yeaaah I'd say 220GB is too little for a single OS, let alone split in half for dual booting.
*shrug* my C drive is a shade under 50GB, and ./ a shade under 70 (including LOTR & DX saves), at least when pamac's not fucking me about. Unless I take up l33t g4m1ng (or collecting MS bloatware as a hobby) it seems to work out...
I have more options regard virtualisation now, to be sure (the box will celebrating its 5th birthday in a couple of weeks...) but to be honest, I quite like the "fuck it, phone's off, I'm unreachable" of being logged out of everything.
Mind you, I also like going outside. Maybe I'm just weird.
Mugging up on the current state of hypervisors is a good idea, though. I should play around with that. At some point...
 
Since it seems strangely relevant to the recent spergathon, you're pretty close - it's a ~220G SSD, with ~110 for Linux, and ~110 for Win10: Stuff I actually want to keep sits on a seperate 2T drive, or over on a NAS. (When I built it, it was a Linux/Win7 box, but Microsoft will Microsoft).
The reason for dual-booting is I quite like Elite Dangerous, but I'll be damned if I'm going to tard-wrangle that, my HOTAS and a fucking Oculus Rift into Wine or some shit. But, I'll also be damned if I'm going to let MS peer over my shoulder all the time and occasionally reboot my PC because they've updated some minor shit, and can't figure out any other way to switch over.
But, this is why we get into autistic slap-fights over which OS is "Better" - they're just different, and if you try to turn Linux into idiot-proof consumer tech, or MS into customisable do-anything tech, you'll just inherit the shitty parts from the other, too.
Mac are, of course, their own special breed of retard which takes the worst part of each, but at least their users can show off how much disposable income they have.
Anyway, there's only one BEST OS, and that's OS/400. The late 90's is the last time I actually understood everything that was going on.
:(
(Oh, and for anyone wondering: The actual problem was pamac compiling an update. Ditching ~40G of what-the-fuck-even-is-this-shit out of /var/tmp worked nicely: I still have the 7.5G LOTR audio book bundle I downloaded (and am trying to repack into something more manageable), and my infinity+1 Deus Ex saved games. Good times.)
When OS and filesystem(s) do you run on the NAS?
 
I had an AMX mouse plugged into my 48k ZX Spectrum.

48k is the literal amount of ram in the computer. The mouse had 3 buttons.

Why in the actual living fuck do I need a Wayland cursor format? Is it more than 48k?

Today is a good day to be a Linux developer.
You can tell it's a good day because I'm several thousand miles from the fucking Mossbergs.
 
I doubt even Windows Ultra SSJ Professional Fresh Lemon Smell lets you disable updates at this point. With Linux, you get what you pay for but with Windows you pay to tell customers at 8.00 AM to come later after your system finishes updating or risk losing half 'a year worth of data.
ackchyualley 🤓,
microsoft has been disabling updates for anybody who installed slight modifications to their operating system, such as a custom file manager/window manager element, even something as simple as moving status bar elements to the other side
...and you can bypass this by uninstalling your customizations, updooting, and then reinstalling them
Of course that has it's own issues, like ring 0 anti-cheats refusing to work, the minimal loss of performance or the general fuckery needed to pull it off with a GPU passthrough and all that jazz, but maybe you could pull it off since you already daily drive Linux and it would fit your use case well. Then you'd boot up Windows within Linux, and when you're done, you close it like you would your browser. Super convenient, super comfy.
ring 0 rootki- ehhhm, "anticheats" i mean, work perfectly fine as long as it isn't chinesium (so anything popular that actually added lunix support, such as battleeye or easy anticheat), and game devs actually go out of their way to disable GNU/Linux support in their proprietary shitware
honestly, the fact that something is proprietary should deter you enough already, but if that isn't enough, then kernel """anticheat""" rootkits should do the trick.
if this doesn't keep you safe from yourself, you deserve to get fucked over by proprietary CIA nigger malware, and if you're gonna use proprietary malware made for winkike, you might as well be using winkike directly instead of duct taping malware onto a free operating system and then complaining about it not working properly.
 
the fact that something is proprietary should deter you enough already
I treat my computer as a tool, not as an ideology. There's good FOSS and there's bad FOSS. There's good proprietary and there's bad proprietary. If I were to autistically focus whether or not every single piece of the software on my machine is FOSS.

That's just schizophrenic, there are satellites and city CCTV watching you 24/7, better never go out because the CIA niggers constantly spy on you. You can't achieve 100% privacy in the modern world and you shouldn't aim to obtain it by using objectively inferior FOSS alternatives, because yes, those do exist. LibreOffice will never replace MS Office for example. You gotta make compromises and stop being so schizophrenic about "winkike" and "CIA nigger malware".

Here, have you manually compiled every single dependency on your GNU/Linux machine? Have you manually reviewed every single line of it to make sure it's all safe? No? You just installed precompiled binaries because you trust them? What if some other dependency has a backdoor like the XZ one but no one noticed it yet? Have fun with your schizophrenia. Nothing is safe, nothing is private. Stop focusing all of your mental capacity into it if you don't want to go insane.

However one thing is clear. Ring 0 anticheat is trash, and if you willingly play a game that relies on it you're a fucking nigger.
 
I treat my computer as a tool, not as an ideology. There's good FOSS and there's bad FOSS. There's good proprietary and there's bad proprietary. If I were to autistically focus whether or not every single piece of the software on my machine is FOSS.

That's just schizophrenic, there are satellites and city CCTV watching you 24/7, better never go out because the CIA niggers constantly spy on you. You can't achieve 100% privacy in the modern world and you shouldn't aim to obtain it by using objectively inferior FOSS alternatives, because yes, those do exist. LibreOffice will never replace MS Office for example. You gotta make compromises and stop being so schizophrenic about "winkike" and "CIA nigger malware".

Here, have you manually compiled every single dependency on your GNU/Linux machine? Have you manually reviewed every single line of it to make sure it's all safe? No? You just installed precompiled binaries because you trust them? What if some other dependency has a backdoor like the XZ one but no one noticed it yet? Have fun with your schizophrenia. Nothing is safe, nothing is private. Stop focusing all of your mental capacity into it if you don't want to go insane.

However one thing is clear. Ring 0 anticheat is trash, and if you willingly play a game that relies on it you're a fucking nigger.
i treat my computer as a tool as well, and as my personal digital slave it has to do everything exactly as i tell it to, without refusing, arguing, doing something else, or doing things i didn't ask for without even telling me.
free software is exactly that, either the user controls the program or the program controls the user, it's inevitably one or the other in 100% of all cases, and those who control the programs, automatically control the users (*useds) and "their" computers along with it.
i don't want some company to throw shitty proprietary firmware into my kernel or shove spyware/ads/whatever down my throat, i'm the only person who controls my computer, and i decide what happens on it.
also, "foss" stands for "free and open sores", which is funny because "open sores" conflicts with free software. free software by definition means giving the end users freedom to do whatever they want and not getting in their way with other gay shit like popups telling them "no you can't do this because we said so!", but in the meantime "open sores" does shit like this, or even worse, it has most or only some of the code publicly available, and the important parts are all proprietary
take a look at polyMC for an example of the first case, or NOVIDEO GPU drivers (the 'open sores' ones) for the second.
here is "open sores" firmware https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-...data_kgspGetBinArchiveBooterLoadUcode_GA100.c
and the attached image is PolyMC, which is an "open sores" minecraft launcher
of course "you can just take it out and edit the code, then recompile it 🤓", but not everyone knows how to program, or specifically how to write C++ code, or where this part of the code even is.
let alone having to actually figure out how to make it compile afterwards because C++ loves to spit out random errors as a joke and doesn't tell you what the problem is, it's the woman of programming languages.
and about CCTVs (whatever that is, had to look it up because i'm not american, apparently it means surveillance cameras), there are none in my country other than for big stores (inside only) because filming other people without their consent in public places (that means anywhere other than on your own private property) is illegal here. don't enter someone's store or home and you can't be legally filmed, it's literally that easy.
satellites can't film me either because my home is under trees, i very rarely visit any cities and everything around me is either forest, water, or farmland.
>oy vey don't even try, you will never succeed goy
i already have.
"fuss" is objectively and practically inferior to free software, and proprietary software is objectively (and practically) inferior to anything else
libreoffice has already replaced microshaft office in a lot of places, nearly all schools in my country use it (if they do use computers at all because krauts hate digitalizing everything), most states have moved their government offices and everything else such as medical applications to GNU/Linux, and windoze only holds a small market share here in general because people aren't mentally retarded like in america.
i DO manually compile pretty much everything on my GNU systems, and everything on them (including my fucking boot firmware) is free software. i don't have a single proprietary piece of code, other than the silicon itself that was cursed by jewish kabbalah magic spells in intel's chip fab.
>xz
i would've noticed it because i actually monitor my shit, but it didn't affect gentoo so it went undetected, since there was no backdoor (at least for gentoo, archlinux, or anything based on those) to begin with. this was a RHEL/debian only thing.
i don't install pre compiled binaries of anything and i don't trust anything either, the only thing i use binaries for is checking if they are reproducible so i can save time on bloated rust troonware because it takes ages to compile, because it's designed to prevent end users from compiling it by themselves.
>if you willingly use rootkit anticheat you're a nigger
exactly. people who willingly use proprietary software are brown and smell like the loo, but anyone who knowingly and willingly uses rootkits like that is just a plain and total nigger.
 

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