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There was a totally real study that proved real women are also autogynephiles. Trust me, bro.
Kevie is referring to the "study" by Charles Moser where Moser asked 30 women the questions that are used to diagnose AGP, but changed the questions. So instead of asking "have you ever been sexually aroused by shaving your legs" Moser asked "have you ever been aroused by shaving your legs as preparation for meeting a potential sex partner".
 
Kevie is referring to the "study" by Charles Moser where Moser asked 30 women the questions that are used to diagnose AGP, but changed the questions. So instead of asking "have you ever been sexually aroused by shaving your legs" Moser asked "have you ever been aroused by shaving your legs as preparation for meeting a potential sex partner".

Maybe it’s just me but Kevvie trying to sound smart and authoritative annoys me more than any other cow.

It’s like a lobotomy patient thinking they are an authority on performing lobotomies.
 
Kevie is referring to the "study" by Charles Moser where Moser asked 30 women the questions that are used to diagnose AGP, but changed the questions. So instead of asking "have you ever been sexually aroused by shaving your legs" Moser asked "have you ever been aroused by shaving your legs as preparation for meeting a potential sex partner".
So standard "academic research" in the modern era?
 
Kevie is referring to the "study" by Charles Moser where Moser asked 30 women the questions that are used to diagnose AGP, but changed the questions. So instead of asking "have you ever been sexually aroused by shaving your legs" Moser asked "have you ever been aroused by shaving your legs as preparation for meeting a potential sex partner".
Looked further into this- it was a study of 29 women (26 of which were heterosexual, 2 bisexual), compared to the 212 MtF transsexuals in Blanchard's study. The results were nowhere near "women are also autogynephilic", but rather, "Blanchard claimed that autogynephilia doesn't exist in women, but here's some who get horny in lingerie."

Here are the questions and responses from that paper, you might notice that most of the answers fall under "never" or "on occasion":
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I just don't think this is a very good paper, considering that it's done on 30 straight women on whether their own bodies get them hot or not.
 
Looked further into this- it was a study of 29 women (26 of which were heterosexual, 2 bisexual), compared to the 212 MtF transsexuals in Blanchard's study. The results were nowhere near "women are also autogynephilic", but rather, "Blanchard claimed that autogynephilia doesn't exist in women, but here's some who get horny in lingerie."

Here are the questions and responses from that paper, you might notice that most of the answers fall under "never" or "on occasion":
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I just don't think this is a very good paper, considering that it's done on 30 straight women on whether their own bodies get them hot or not.
That's also ignoring the fact that AGP is a paraphillia and those tend to happen more in men than women. But none of that matter because like always the sample size is so woefully small that there is not data that can really be gleaned from this.
 
Maybe it’s just me but Kevvie trying to sound smart and authoritative annoys me more than any other cow.

It’s like a lobotomy patient thinking they are an authority on performing lobotomies.
I think it's funny, like an overgrown tardbaby declaring that what mom said was LAW and we all go "that's nice Kevvie, eat your peas."
 
The results were nowhere near "women are also autogynephilic", but rather, "Blanchard claimed that autogynephilia doesn't exist in women, but here's some who get horny in lingerie."
HA! Notice the question "I have dressed myself in lingerie or sexy attire or prepared myself (shaving legs, applying make-up, etc.) before masturbating," which is extremely AGP, got the highest number of NEVER responses (19), the lowest of on occasion (10) and ZERO reports of doing it frequently. Even this junky little study can't help but reveal what it is trying to obscure LOL.

It's hard to imagine anything more unlike an AGP's narcissistic goon session than the romantic sensuality of dressing in an alluring way for intimacy with another person. It's not even something exclusive to women, but as ever, healthy sexuality remains firmly out of the troon's cum encrusted grasp.

Watching Kevvie attempt to retcon his sexual deviancy into anything other than the degeneracy it is, is always a good time though :story:
 
It’s always a bit weird when Kevin goes from presenting himself as a walking collection of increasingly abstract fetishes to seething about AGP. Most of the time he’s going on about how sexually exciting he finds the Cartoon Network fall schedule, but on this one subject he acts like a church lady being asked if she’s into piss play.
 
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OK, fine, any kind of guidelines for surgery are "gatekeeping" and people of leisure will scream on Twitter unless it's performed on demand.

Can we at least require six months of community service before signing people up for free titties/un-titties? You don't have to talk to a professional or otherwise prove you thought about your life-altering decisions, but at least the park has fewer squished Big Gulp cups in it now.


No, that's ableist because some people can't be arsed don't have enough spoons to do mild litter picking
 
I just don't think this is a very good paper, considering that it's done on 30 straight women on whether their own bodies get them hot or not.
To quote a sociologist (who specializes in fetishes mind) I know "A hundred is enough to justify doing it again with a thousand. A thousand is enough to see a trend. Ten thousand is enough to actually draw conclusions." If I showed them a sample size of 30 they'd probably laugh and ask why we're taking classroom surveys to be science.
 
Kevie is referring to the "study" by Charles Moser where Moser asked 30 women the questions that are used to diagnose AGP, but changed the questions. So instead of asking "have you ever been sexually aroused by shaving your legs" Moser asked "have you ever been aroused by shaving your legs as preparation for meeting a potential sex partner".
No, I cut them every goddamn time. Also what does "meeting a potential sex partner" even mean? Does this refer to streetwalking?
 
Looked further into this- it was a study of 29 women (26 of which were heterosexual, 2 bisexual), compared to the 212 MtF transsexuals in Blanchard's study. The results were nowhere near "women are also autogynephilic", but rather, "Blanchard claimed that autogynephilia doesn't exist in women, but here's some who get horny in lingerie."

Here are the questions and responses from that paper, you might notice that most of the answers fall under "never" or "on occasion":
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I just don't think this is a very good paper, considering that it's done on 30 straight women on whether their own bodies get them hot or not.

That's also ignoring the fact that AGP is a paraphillia and those tend to happen more in men than women. But none of that matter because like always the sample size is so woefully small that there is not data that can really be gleaned from this.
These kinds of papers are common, sometimes even entire books are written, where the person doesn't understand the theory but it upsets them so they're attacking it and "debunking" it.

There's examples in some other fields where people believe a theory has been refuted where the famous refutation actually confirms the original hypothesis because the author either didn't understand it or deliberately misconstrued it.

Kevin is the equivalent of your weird shut-in cousin who doesn't have sex loudly declaring evolution to be debunked via published papers from creationists when actually he just remembers Steve Harvey asking why we still got monkeys and has never bothered to see if there's any response to what Steve said.
 
These kinds of papers are common, sometimes even entire books are written, where the person doesn't understand the theory but it upsets them so they're attacking it and "debunking" it.
To be fair, I think even people who thinks AGP is real often misunderstands it by not really bothering to read or at the very least understanding Blanchard's point. Look at people who are claiming that HSTS are "AGP" when the whole point is that it's attraction misplaced towards one self as a woman and not towards others.

Neither gay men or women can by "autogynophiles" by default. If a woman has misplaced attraction towards herself then she'd be autophilic, the "gyno" part is completely unnecessary in her case.

That's also ignoring the fact that AGP is a paraphillia and those tend to happen more in men than women.
To be fair, I wonder if the reason why we find so little evidence of paraphilia in women is that we keep using the male definition of it and try to apply that to women, when paraphilia in women probably expresses itself wildly differently. Someone pointed out once that we react entirely differently to female pedophiles to their male counterparts because how it's expressed confuses us. With male pedophiles you usually have rather graphic violent sexual assaults, while you have people like Mary Kay LeTourneau crying about how she's in love with her victim, having several children by him and even getting a book written about how it's true "forbidden" love.

Another example is in true crime communities (another one that deserves a community watch thread) which are largely populated by women - you'll often see women really write disturbing theories about how a crime happened. It's not just enough to conclude that the victim was raped and had her throat cut; too often they'll write very in-depth about the absolute fear and horror the poor woman must've experienced to the point you wonder if both hands were on the keyboard while writing. Same thing with women who runs Columbine Tumblrs about Dylan and Eric etc.
 
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To be fair, I wonder if the reason why we find so little evidence of paraphilia in women is that we keep using the male definition of it and try to apply that to women, when paraphilia in women probably expresses itself wildly differently.
Paraphilias in women aren't undocumented either. Tentacles are a female dominated fetish and the meme of white women and dogs is also so common for well documented reasons. Women typically have their paraphilias be wanting things done to them. They tend to externalize and project them into real or fictional individuals. They are more focused on the thoughts and feelings of a situation than the actions.
Someone pointed out once that we react entirely differently to female pedophiles to their male counterparts because how it's expressed confuses us
Female pedos are more emotional in the abuse they commit, and they tend to take a passive role in sexual activities. They aim to create an emotionally dependent victim who will carry out their fantasies eagerly in an attempt to please the perpetrator. They leave you emotionally and socially stunted at the end with missing life skills to make a more controllable victim. At least that's what I went through. Sadly there's not enough information out there about female pedos to really point at. It's far less violent though.
 
Paraphilias in women aren't undocumented either. Tentacles are a female dominated fetish and the meme of white women and dogs is also so common for well documented reasons. Women typically have their paraphilias be wanting things done to them. They tend to externalize and project them into real or fictional individuals. They are more focused on the thoughts and feelings of a situation than the actions.
Don’t forget DDLG shit. Tons of crazy chicks are into that.
 
I think paraphilias are an exclusively male thing, or damn near.

For example, I think I've maybe heard of two solo-acting female pedos with multiple victims, and IIRC in both cases the woman was "working" within an adolescent male friend group.

Or like I don't think I've ever heard of a woman who became a teacher in order to have access to a victim pool.

And I would further guess that among convicted female chomos, I would guess that most of them don't prefer adolescents, it's just that one boy or girl caught their eye and they went for it.

Whereas male pedos often have multiple victims, often choose careers that give them access to victims, and often have a specific "age of attraction" that's somewhere south of legal age.

Like with Kevin, he had the opportunity to be in a sexual relationship as a man with a woman, but for him, something about chopping his dick off had a stronger pull.
 
For example, I think I've maybe heard of two solo-acting female pedos with multiple victims, and IIRC in both cases the woman was "working" within an adolescent male friend group.
The issue here is that you think paraphilia = crime.

Females with paraphilias might not be as inclined to commit crime because they don't cross those boundaries. Paraphilias in men are mostly known because we see them as problematic - but what about when we talk about diffuse things like feelings? Females are probably more likely to be paraphilic about those things rather than males.
 
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