Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Sister Miriam Godwinson said:
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We need to end this conflict by providing more weapons so it can last longer! Sound good
Kuritan Deplorable said:
Is he trying to say that they'll surrender after laundering the next lump of money? Or that they're going to suddenly win the war with just another lump of cash? Neither makes any sense.

Biden's been pretty bad about actually finishing his thoughts and ideas, but usually the media runs cover and finishes them for him, so I can only imagine that its really all just that - Give cash, putin btfo'd instantly, job done.
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Biden doesn’t seem to know what year it is or where he is most days.

Sooner or later he will get I
Gondolindrim said:
The grifters are being extra bloodthirsty today
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Guess they must be having a bad week if they need to overcompensate this much.
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If anyone feels like sending him a souvenir, go ahead.

Here are some picks from my “DEARLORD?!?” Folder. Don’t click if you just ate.

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Sir Joahim Browinson III said:
From what I can gather the USA's entire plan is to get a shit tons of expensive equpment in one placd and hope that one big push will somehow undo 2 years worth of fighting.
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So the big Ukrainski counteroffensive 2.0 basically?

Very optimistic.

Shit, even a direct US boots on the ground intervention at this point wouldn’t make a difference.

They don’t have the numbers. And given who’s signing up these days, they don’t have the qualitative edge either.

It’s been a long time since people with options, who just wanted to serve their country signed up with the US military.
 
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snov said:
That may be, but we were discussing turning pulp into gunpowder. Anyone can mince trees.
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Our main gunpowder plant is in Florida. We also use gunpowder imported from Canada and the EU. It's not a horribly complicated chemical. The USA in general is a huge producer of industrial chemicals. It's one of our main exports. Nitrocellulose is in tons of stuff, including nail polish and playing cards. So I don't think it's really an issue for us.

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make_it_so said:
The Croatian tank autist had a short but interesting conversation with a US tank commander about the Ukrainians use of the Abrams, as well as tank combat in the war in general.
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“They’re doing a really smart thing in Berdychi!”

Continues to explain how they’re doing a tank roulette to give the impression that there are more of them… Totally ignoring the fact that it won’t work, since drones immediately lets the opponent know how many there are.

The Abrams is just the wrong tank for Ukraine. There’s no getting around that. It’s too maintenance intensive, guzzles fuel like it ain’t nobody’s business, and it’s so damn heavy that it gets stuck in mud easily and can’t cross many bridges.
 
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White_N said:
Not being able to show pride and patriotism for one's country causes one to project this onto one's proxies in the most unhinged way possible
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As if American public opinion weren't bad enough it is now going through rapid Hoholization, which is absolute worst thing that can happen with anybody's cognition.
I see westerners on the net basically copying Ukranian CIPsO speech patterns down to the word, but in English.
I dunno if it's real Americans or just Ukraine psyop warriors pretending to be them to create the narrative of support, but if it is the former, theese people are already beyond saving.
 
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This whole thing is insane.
Elder Ukrainians have already lived through the horrors of sharing a common nation with the Russians, they were equal and valued citizens of a superpower. But drafting youths and women for futile last stands, shelling nuclear powerplants and other crucial infrastructure is insane, this isn't the GPW, no one wants to enslave or genocide Slavs. (Well, no one in Russia, at least, Washington probably sees it as a bonus)

Not to mention this war is as good as lost for them, they are trading lives for time for what? The RF military is getting stronger not weaker.
 
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SIMIΔN said:
This whole thing is insane.
Elder Ukrainians have already lived through the horrors of sharing a common nation with the Russians, they were equal and valued citizens of a superpower. But drafting youths and women for futile last stands, shelling nuclear powerplants and other crucial infrastructure is insane, this isn't the GPW, no one wants to enslave or genocide Slavs. (Well, no one in Russia, at least, Washington probably sees it as a bonus)

Not to mention this war is as good as lost for them, they are trading lives for time for what? The RF military is getting stronger not weaker.
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They are trading lives for embezzlement worthy Us and Eu shekels.
 
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Gondolindrim said:
The grifters are being extra bloodthirsty today
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Guess they must be having a bad week if they need to overcompensate this much.
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You can see a seamless continuum of behaviour in how these people approach the world. Anyone who dissents from them, be they a podcaster, a game designer, a bunch of truckers, a politician or even entire nations are to be dehumanised. They honestly think that the only people who could possibly disagree with them are stupid, mislead or evil and being so, possess no agency. Since they have no agency, one cannot possibly properly negotiate with them.

Since the Russians arent stupid or mislead,thus they must be evil and deserve to suffer.
 
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Dirtnapninja said:
You can see a seamless continuum of behaviour in how these people approach the world. Anyone who dissents from them, be they a podcaster, a game designer, a bunch of truckers, a politician or even entire nations are to be dehumanised. They honestly think that the only people who could possibly disagree with them are stupid, mislead or evil and being so, possess no agency. Since they have no agency, one cannot possibly properly negotiate with them.

Since the Russians arent stupid or mislead,thus they must be evil and deserve to suffer.
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Also after the war is done the word "Ukraine" will never pass their lips again. When pressed they'll say "I heard there was some trouble there in the mid 2020's. I didn't really follow it."

They will drop it and pretend the whole thing never happened. No self reflection. No analysis. Just walk away.
 
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Garm said:
Also after the war is done the word "Ukraine" will never pass their lips again. When pressed they'll say "I heard there was some trouble there in the mid 2020's. I didn't really follow it."

They will drop it and pretend the whole thing never happened. No self reflection. No analysis. Just walk away.
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"They smashed up things and people and then retreated behind their money and their infinite carelessness."
 
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