US 10 years after armed standoff with federal agents, Bundy cattle are still grazing disputed rangeland - Some heard echoes of Bunkerville and Malheur when rioters clashed with police on Jan. 6, 2021, outside and inside the halls of Congress and temporarily blocked certification of the 2020 presidential election.

BUNKERVILLE, Nev. (AP) — The words “Revolution is Tradition” stenciled in fresh blue and red paint mark a cement wall in a dry river wash beneath a remote southern Nevada freeway overpass, where armed protesters and federal agents stared each other down through rifle sights 10 years ago.

It was just before noon on a hot and sunny Saturday when backers of cattle rancher Cliven Bundy, including hundreds of men, women and children, made the U.S. Bureau of Land Management quit enforcing court orders to remove Bundy cattle from vast arid rangeland surrounding his modest family ranch and melon farm.

Witnesses later said they feared the sound of a car backfiring would have unleashed a bloodbath. But no shots were fired, the government backed down and some 380 Bundy cattle that had been impounded were set free.

“Since then, we’ve relatively lived in peace,” Ryan Bundy, eldest among 14 Bundy siblings, said in a telephone interview. “The BLM doesn’t contact us, talk to us or bother us.”

“The BLM does not have any comment on this subject,” agency spokesman John Asselin said in response to email inquiries about the standoff, Bundy cattle grazing today in Gold Butte National Monument and the more than $1 million in unpaid grazing fees and penalties the BLM said Bundy owed in 2014.

At the ranch, Cliven Bundy greeted guests this week while cradling one of 74 grandchildren and 21 great-grandchildren that he has with his wife, Carol Bundy.

“We’re all a little bit older,” he said, “but we’re still doing the same thing: ranching.”

Later, watching two of his sons and a friend rope yearling bulls in a pen, the plainspoken and photogenic rancher — who rallied followers through a bullhorn that day saying, “Let’s go get those cattle” — recalled being arrested, jailed for nearly two years and brought to a trial that was dismissed due to prosecutorial misconduct.

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Ranch hands rope a bull on the Bundy ranch, Tuesday, April 9, 2024, in Bunkerville, NV. (AP Photo/Ty ONeil)

“I’ve had that dot on my forehead and on my chest, and I’ve had my family with dots on their foreheads,” the 77-year-old family patriarch said of the feeling of being in target crosshairs. Courtroom evidence later revealed that federal agents with rifles had camped for days in hills around Bundy’s ranch before and during the showdown on April 12, 2014.

His family and followers were unfairly targeted by heavy-handed government agents, Bundy said, but rescued by backers including militia members and supporters he calls “we the people.”

“They were announcing on their bullhorn: ‘You’re defying a federal court order. We demand you to disperse or we will fire on you,’” said Mike Bronson, 68, a family friend from Midway, Utah, who recalled kneeling in a prayer ring in front of the corral beneath the overpass. “That’s exactly what they said. Time after time.”

The outcome of the tense confrontation reverberated. In January 2016, Bundy’s eldest sons, Ammon and Ryan Bundy, and several other men who were at the Bundy ranch in 2014 led a weekslong standoff at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. It ended with their arrests after a protest spokesperson, LaVoy Finicum, was shot dead by state police at an FBI roadblock.

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“Revolution is Tradition” appear freshly stenciled on a cement wall, Tuesday, April 9, 2024, in Mesquite, NV beneath a freeway overpass where armed protesters and federal government agents stared each other down through rifle sights 10 years ago. (AP Photo/Ty ONeil)

Some heard echoes of Bunkerville and Malheur when rioters clashed with police on Jan. 6, 2021, outside and inside the halls of Congress and temporarily blocked certification of the 2020 presidential election.

“Bunkerville was an early warning sign of the MAGA/Trump movement,” said Ian Bartrum, a University of Nevada, Las Vegas, law professor who has studied and written about the standoff and federal land policy. He cited “a growing militia movement looking for someone to fight.”

“I think we can safely say, 10 years later, the Bundys won that fight, and federal regulators don’t seem at all eager to try again,” Bartrum said. “We have bigger problems than cattle on public land at this point.”

In court, federal prosecutors cast the Bunkerville confrontation as an insurrection against the U.S. government. Nineteen people from 11 states, including Bundy and four sons, were arrested in 2016 on charges including conspiracy, assault on a federal officer and firearms counts. Most remained jailed for nearly two years.

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Mike Bronson speaks from the Bundy ranch, Tuesday, April 9, 2024, in Bunkerville, NV. (AP Photo/Ty ONeil)

Five defendants pleaded guilty before trial, several were acquitted of all counts and some were convicted of lesser charges. One remains in federal prison. No Bundy family member was convicted of a crime.

Today, family members estimate that more than 700 Bundy cattle graze widely in the scrubby green Virgin River valley surrounding the 160-acre (64.7-hectare) Bundy ranch and in Gold Butte, a scenic and archaeologically rich Mojave Desert expanse half the size of the state of Delaware that then-President Barack Obama designated a national monument in December 2016.

Conservation groups including the Center for Biological Diversity and Western Watersheds Project are suing to prod the government to remove cattle and protect the desert tortoise, a species deemed in 1990 to be threatened by habitat loss that advocates blame on grazing.

“The desert tortoise is at the heart of it,” said Erik Molvar, Western Watersheds executive director. “Cattle continue to graze illegally ... causing irreversible damage to ecological values.”

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A motorist enters the Gold Butte National Monument near the Bundy ranch, Tuesday, April 9, 2024, in Bunkerville, NV. (AP Photo/Ty ONeil)

“I think you can look at the Capitol insurrection on Jan. 6 and draw a straight line to Malheur and Bunkerville,” Molvar added, “as emblematic of insurrectionist movements in the United States and the failure of federal prosecutors to fully enforce the laws.”

Bundy argues the federal government does not have authority to regulate lands his Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints family settled some 150 years ago. He insists questions of local sovereignty have never been answered to his satisfaction. He says he believes a jury would agree.

Arden Bundy, the youngest son at age 26, has a social media following with YouTube videos titled “The Bundy Ranch.” Wearing body cameras, he and brother Clancy Bundy and cowhand Cache Burnside ride hard on horseback roping bulls across the scrubby range, aided by the family dog, Kaylie. They call it “gully jumping.”

The April 2014 standoff was a victory, Arden Bundy said, because “nobody got killed and the cows came back.”

Asked what would happen if the government tried again to round up Bundy cattle, he was direct.

“If we have to call people, we’ll call all our followers from YouTube and social media,” Arden Bundy said.

“There was 1,000 there last time,” Cliven Bundy said. “There’ll be 10,000 there next time.”

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Sell him the land he's using at a reasonable market price and expand the nature preserve elsewhere to accommodate the need to protect native species. If he wants to use it, he can purchase it.

It's BS to use public property for private cattle grazing without paying for it, but it's also BS to charge him $1 million in fees for the use of the land without getting anything else in return. None of the fees paid are really going back to the local community or to benefit the area as far as I'm aware. These pointless battles when completely reasonable alternatives are available just waste time, effort and money.

Seems fair to all sides if you ask me.
 
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The difference is one group was armed and the government did not want a shit show. Strange that a group of conservatard gun nuts intent on violently overthrowing the government in insurrection did not brieng their guns to Jan 6. Really activates the little grey cells.
It's almost like they only want to go after easy targets.

When agents start getting brained, the government goes back East to kick grandma and grandpa in the chest instead.
 
Information from the sometimes useful but often biased Wikipedia regarding the background of the initial land dispute that led to the standoff:
Under BLM permits first issued in 1954, Bundy grazed his cattle legally and paid his grazing fees on the Bunkerville Allotment until 1993. In 1989, the federal government declared the desert tortoise an endangered species and began negotiating a habitat conservation plan in Clark County, Nevada, to meet the needs of both the tortoise and the people, such as Bundy, who were using the land. In mid-1991, the United States Fish and Wildlife Service approved a short-term conservation plan that allowed for development of about 22,000 acres of tortoise habitat in and around Las Vegas in exchange for strict conservation measures on 400,000 acres of federal BLM land south of the city. This included the elimination of livestock grazing and strict limits on off-road vehicle use in the protected tortoise habitat. In 1993, a permanent conservation plan was put into place that more than doubled the conservation area, and included the Bunkerville Allotment.[12]

Unlike many ranchers, Bundy refused to sell his grazing privileges back to the federal government. Instead, as a protest, Bundy did not pay his renewal fees in 1993. His permit was canceled in 1994.[13][14] Although the agency made several attempts to have Bundy renew the permit, he declared that he no longer recognized the BLM's authority to regulate grazing, and asserted that he had "vested rights" to graze cattle on the land.[3] Federal courts have consistently ruled against Bundy on grazing rights, ruling him a trespasser with no right to graze on federal land. The courts authorized the BLM to remove Bundy's cattle and to levy damages for his unauthorized use.[3][15]

Bundy accumulated more than $1 million in unpaid grazing fees and court-ordered fines.[16][17] The Portland Oregonian newspaper reported in May 2014 that the amount that Bundy owed stood in "stark contrast" to the situation in Oregon, where just 45 of the state's roughly 1,100 grazing permit holders collectively owed $18,759 (~$24,144 in 2023) in past-due payments to the BLM, and only two ranchers had unpaid fees more than 60 days past due.[18] Excluding Bundy's unpaid fees, the total of all late grazing fees owed nationwide to the BLM was only $237,000.[19]

To think America got so close to another Ruby Ridge or Waco incident over the mighty desert tortoise is just amazing.
 
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“The desert tortoise is at the heart of it,” said Erik Molvar, Western Watersheds executive director. “Cattle continue to graze illegally ... causing irreversible damage to ecological values.”
Stick a desert tortoise up your ass, fag
“I think you can look at the Capitol insurrection on Jan. 6 and draw a straight line to Malheur and Bunkerville,” Molvar added, “as emblematic of insurrectionist movements in the United States and the failure of federal prosecutors to fully enforce the laws.”
The federal government needs to fuck off with its bullshit on the ridiculous amount of land it owns out West. Some stupid tortoise that provides no benefit to anyone is more important than a family of Americans that has provided a livelihood to hundreds of other Americans over 7 decades, gtfo here
 
The federal government needs to fuck off with its bullshit on the ridiculous amount of land it owns out West. Some stupid tortoise that provides no benefit to anyone is more important than a family of Americans that has provided a livelihood to hundreds of other Americans over 7 decades, gtfo here
The desert tortoise has a range that includes the entirety of the Mojave and Sonoran deserts, there's no reason why this land couldn't be sold to him and the proceeds used to expand the preserve in other parts of the habitat or to improve conditions for the species.

The mindset that protecting a species doesn't matter because it's a tortoise that doesn't "benefit" anything is dangerous though.

It was "American families" and "job creators" that clear-cut forests, dumped rivers full of pollution and sewage, ruined soils in the Great Plains causing the Dust Bowl, nearly drove the buffalo and bald eagle to extinction, and created countless environmental disasters around the country that we are still recovering from.
 
The federal government needs to fuck off with its bullshit on the ridiculous amount of land it owns out West. Some stupid tortoise that provides no benefit to anyone is more important than a family of Americans that has provided a livelihood to hundreds of other Americans over 7 decades, gtfo here

Ever wonder why land people could use for homesteads seems to be real small? The government owns a LOT of land for conservation.
 
The desert tortoise has a range that includes the entirety of the Mojave and Sonoran deserts, there's no reason why this land couldn't be sold to him and the proceeds used to expand the preserve in other parts of the habitat or to improve conditions for the species.

The mindset that protecting a species doesn't matter because it's a tortoise that doesn't "benefit" anything is dangerous though.

It was "American families" and "job creators" that clear-cut forests, dumped rivers full of pollution and sewage, ruined soils in the Great Plains causing the Dust Bowl, nearly drove the buffalo and bald eagle to extinction, and created countless environmental disasters around the country that we are still recovering from.
No one is talking about destroying several tens of thousands to a couple hundred thousand square miles of even minimally productive land here
 
No one is talking about destroying several tens of thousands to a couple hundred thousand square miles of even minimally productive land here
I agree, that's why they should just sell him the land and be done with it. Buy some land elsewhere to expand the nature preserve if it's needed.

It's 380 cattle we're talking about, not 35,000~ like the King Ranch.
 
I agree, that's why they should just sell him the land and be done with it. Buy some land elsewhere to expand the nature preserve if it's needed.

It's 380 cattle we're talking about, not 35,000~ like the King Ranch.
Why would he want to buy the land when he can just keep using it for free? It’s already been demonstrated that if anybody tries to make him pay for or stop using the land a bunch of people with guns show up.
 
That "Revolution is Tradition" looks like a Patriot Front job to me. Guess the urinalist didn't make the connection.
Good chance it is.

Excerpt from an old article on Patriot Front activities:
Throughout 2022, at least 50 different white supremacist groups and networks distributed propaganda, but three of them – Patriot Front, Goyim Defense League (GDL) and White Lives Matter (WLM) - were responsible for 93 percent of the activity.

As has been the case since 2019, Texas-based Patriot Front was responsible for the vast majority – 80 percent – of propaganda distributions in 2022. The group distributed propaganda in every state except Alaska and Hawaii but was most active (from most to least active) in Massachusetts, Texas, Michigan, Virginia, Pennsylvania and Utah.

Since rebranding in October 2018, Patriot Front has used a cynical iteration of “patriotism” to promote its white supremacist and neo-fascist ideology. In 2022, the group added yard signs to its repertoire, and stayed on “brand,” using red, white and blue colors in its propaganda. The group continues to avoid using traditional white supremacist language and symbols in its messaging, instead using ambiguous phrasing like “For the Nation Against the State,” “Revolution is Tradition,” “Reclaim America,” “America First” and “One Nation Against Immigration.”

Here are some photos:
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Sell him the land he's using at a reasonable market price and expand the nature preserve elsewhere to accommodate the need to protect native species. If he wants to use it, he can purchase it.

It's BS to use public property for private cattle grazing without paying for it, but it's also BS to charge him $1 million in fees for the use of the land without getting anything else in return. None of the fees paid are really going back to the local community or to benefit the area as far as I'm aware. These pointless battles when completely reasonable alternatives are available just waste time, effort and money.

Seems fair to all sides if you ask me.
If I remember correctly, the fines were the unpaid grazing rights for 10+ years and I think part of the fine was for trying to redistribute a waterway on fed property that was taking water away from others. I'm pretty sure he had even built a holding tank for the water on fed property.
 
Why would he want to buy the land when he can just keep using it for free? It’s already been demonstrated that if anybody tries to make him pay for or stop using the land a bunch of people with guns show up.
If he owns the land, it settles the matter for good.

I'm not confident there will be anywhere near the same kind of restraint by the federal government in a future confrontation as there was in 2014. Things have changed a lot in the past decade and not in a good way.

If I remember correctly, the fines were the unpaid grazing rights for 10+ years and I think part of the fine was for trying to redistribute a waterway on fed property that was taking water away from others. I'm pretty sure he had even built a holding tank for the water on fed property.
If that's the case he's definitely in the wrong. It's one thing if your actions have no impact on others, but if you're doing things that harm them and you're doing it on land you don't own on top of it, that's a big problem. The fees themselves are minor in comparison to that IMO.

If it was a major corporation doing these exact same actions instead of Bundy, what would people think?
 
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If he owns the land, it settles the matter for good.

I'm not confident there will be anywhere near the same kind of restraint by the federal government in a future confrontation as there was in 2014. Things have changed a lot in the past decade and not in a good way.
I agree, but I don’t think he’s interested in buying the land regardless. In his opinion the land is basically his by virtue of his family being there for however many generations. If the feds show up again and waste some more of his supporters like Finicum it’s no skin off his back, he’s not the one getting shot and he’s still got his land.

edit: full disclosure, while I think telling the feds to go fuck themselves is based, I’m not a fan of the Bundy clan. I think he’s an asshole who takes advantage of useful idiot “patriots” for personal benefit.
 
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