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Still looking to get back in on Baseball after the Blue Jays burnout, i know i asked but what is an NL or AL team worth rooting for that isn't a bandwagon but aren't doomed to irrelevance and is fun to watch? (Minor bonus if flying there is not too expensive)

I'm biased, but Cleveland has some stellar pitching so far this year and our hitting has vastly improved from last season. We've got great prospects in the pipeline and young talent on the major league roster that make for exciting games. Pretty much written off since our playoff appearance in 2022, but we've gotten seriously better in the interim.
 
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The Indians Guardians are a fun team to follow, reminds me of the Orioles last season. I listen to some of their games while working out using the MLB at-bat app.
 
A bunch of damn dirty Swedes are foisting plant jizz on the Minor Leagues. Teams will adopt this moniker for at least one game this year.

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ETA: well I'll be! the Royals are so fuckin' back.

I know it's only April, and it's against the Trashtros, but a 7-game win streak and half a game out of 1st is a stark difference from last year.
 
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I was watching this video on Ronald Acuna Jr...I mean, he's extremely talented and all but God damn this motherfucker is every stereotype about lazy nigger athletes rolled up into one it seems.

Is it really that hard to just run to 1st Base every time ?
What's especially frustrating as a Braves fan is that he's basically immune to any kind of critique by the larger fan base or you'll be immediately labeled a racist.

You're fucking delusional if you don't see the consistent lack of effort throughout the season, both on base and in the outfield.

Elite skillset for sure but goddamn, I hate what he's done for any kind of discourse.
 
So not only has Ohtani been raking, but he's now fully exonerated as per the Fed's investigation. Ippei Mizuhara will enter a guilty plea. Case closed and now we can get back to what he does best, which is playing Baseball.

Rob Parker hasn't been on suicide watch this badly since Tom Brady won his 7th Super Bowl.
Of course he was exonerated, lol.
 
I've gone through the 37 page complaint against Ippei (you can search for USA vs. Mizuhara complaint and see for yourselves). I'll highlight the most critical elements below:

1) Between November 2021 and January 2024, more than 16 million dollars were transferred from Ohtani's account to associates of the bookie.

2) The transfers from this bank account were made from devices and IP addresses associated with Ippei.

3) The bank records show that during this time period, the contact details for the account were changed to Ippei's phone number and to an anonymous gmail address which was connected to Ippei based on data from Ippei's phone.

4) There are recorded phone calls of Ippei calling the bank and impersonating Ohtani in order to wire funds.

5) Ippei also contacted the bookie's associate in March 2024 and admitted to stealing funds from Ohtani.

6) Mizuhara's phone contained hundreds of messages between him and both the bookie as well as the bookie associate (there are several pages of exchanges where they are discussing methods of wiring, etc.).

7) Any winnings that Ippei made were wired to his own personal bank account and not to the Ohtani account.

8. In May 2022, Ippei had already run up 1 million dollars in gambling losses, however the bookie kept increasing his betting limits. Some examples of Ippei's messages include:

8. a) “I’m terrible at this sport betting thing huh? Lol . . . Any chance u can bump me again?? As you know, you don’t have to worry about me not paying!!”

8. b) “Can u bump me last 200? I swear on my mom this will be the last ask before I pay it off once I get back to 13 the states. Sorry for keep on asking. . . .” . The bookie responded the same day stating, “Np done bud. Merry Christmas.”

8. c) Bookie to Ippei: “I know you’ve been on a bad run. I don’t mind bumping u, I just want to verify that you can send at least 2M on June 1.”

9) More exchanges from June 2023:

9. a) “I got my ass kicked again lol . . . . Any chance I can get one last bump? This will be my last one for a while if I lose it. . . .”

9. b) “I have a problem lol. . . . Can I get one 14 last last last bump? This one is for real. . . . Last one for real[.]” Bookie responds with: “Done. I have the same problem. To be honest with you Ippie, as long as you can guarantee the 500 every Monday I’ll give you as much as you want because I know you’re good for it[.] again I just have to clean it up with my partner and that’s one reason why I was asking before.”

9. c) Message from the bookie: “Hey Ippie, it’s 2 o’clock on Friday. I don’t know why you’re not returning my calls. I’m here in Newport Beach and I see [Victim A] (Ohtani is called Victim A in the document) walking his dog. I’m just gonna go up and talk to him and ask how I can get in touch with you since you’re not responding? Please call me back immediately.”
 
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(Continued highlights from the criminal complaint against Ippei)

1) Ippei averaged nearly 25 bets per day. Based on data from the cooperating source of the bookie, there were about 19,000 wagers placed in a 3 year period (none on Baseball).

2) During this period, records reflect total winning bets of $142,256,769.74, and total losing bets of $182,935,206.68, leaving a total net balance of negative $40,678,436.94.8.

3) The original Ohtani bank account from which wires took place was created in March 2018. The deposits to this account were almost exclusively Ohtani's salary from the Angels.

4) On top of wiring millions of dollars to the bookie, Ippei was also transferred 300,000 dollars to his eBay and Whatnot accounts.

5) The bank had records of devices belong to Ippei being the one who accessed Ohtani's account as well as IP addresses. The investigators also reviewed recordings of phone calls to the bank where Ippei claims to be Shohei, in order to execute wire transfers.

6) Even though the account was temporarily frozen in 2022, Ippei was able to override the blocks by answering security questions correctly (apparently regarding Ohtani's biography). This allowed him to wire funds.


The investigators also interviewed Ohtani and here are associated highlights:

1) Ippei helped Ohtani open the bank account in question back in 2018.

2) Ohtani's MLB salary was the only source of funds deposited into this account. His other endorsement and investment incomes go to other accounts and were managed by his agency (and agency personnel / financial advisors).

3) The MLB salary bank account that was used to wire funds to the bookie was kept private from Ohtani's agency. The agency was aware that the account existed but Ippei told them that Shohei wanted it private, and that there was no activity with the account and therefore no filing requirements. The agency doesn't have Japanese speakers and so could not verify if this was the case (all communication with Ohtani went through Ippei).

4) Ippei used the 300 K that he transferred from Ohtani to his own bank account to buy at least 1000 Baseball cards including Yogi Berra, Juan Soto and Ohtani himself.

5) The investigators, using fluent Japanese speakers, reviewed 9,700 pages of Japanese messages between Ohtani and Ippei. These included no discussions of sports betting, wagers, odds or any other information that would indicate Shohei was aware of Ippei's gambling.

6) There are also the aforementioned facts that Ippei impersonated Ohtani to change the bank account details as well as to authorize transfers. This would have been unnecessary had Ohtani been aware and authorized the activity himself.

7) Ohtani surrendered his own phone to the investigators. The findings were that the phone had never accessed that bank account and had never searched for gambling related information, had no other messages to others which referenced Ippei's gambling issues.


8. On or about March 20, 2024, Ippei messaged the bookie stating, “Have you seen the reports?”. Bookie responded, “Yes, but that’s all bullshit. Obviously you didn’t steal from him. I understand it’s a cover job I totally get it.”. Ippei then responded to the bookie that, “Technically I did steal from him. it’s all over for me.”
 
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Now that I've gone back and read the complaint several times, here is where I personally stand:

The most damning evidence is that there are records of Ippei impersonating Ohtani (voice recordings, device IDs and IP addresses) to manipulate the bank into making transfers.

His mega cringe exchanges with the bookies are garden variety degenerate gambler tier.

Ohtani surrendered his phone and the investigators couldn't find any mention of gambling upon reviewing thousands of messages (with Ippei and also others).

Ippei's admissions of his guilt to the bookie are damning as well.

Ohtani is innocent. If you're still not convinced then we're in "faith" territory where even facing a mountain of hard evidence to the contrary, you believe something to be true.
 
2) During this period, records reflect total winning bets of $142,256,769.74, and total losing bets of $182,935,206.68, leaving a total net balance of negative $40,678,436.94.8.


Damn..... Ohtani is innocent but obviously wasn't as good at managing money like he is at baseball, when you are that uber rich or hit the lottery, you need layers upon layers of people to keep people straight, which in itself costs countless of millions of dollars.
 
Damn..... Ohtani is innocent but obviously wasn't as good at managing money like he is at baseball, when you are that uber rich or hit the lottery, you need layers upon layers of people to keep people straight, which in itself costs countless of millions of dollars.

Can't win 'em all I guess. He may very well be the greatest Baseball player who ever lived and seems like a good dude and all, but he was certainly too trusting that others would have good intentions by him. It's an incredible betrayal though, given how much love Ippei got over the years.
 
Learn fucking English Ohtani. He could afford lessons from a supermodel or a movie star ffs. He only needs to understand the baseball words and money words. I would want to learn Japanese if I moved to Japan.
 
After reading the complaint filing, this is a pretty open and shut case. Ippei not only stole $16m from Ohtani, but also impersonated him multiple times to continue the wire transfers. The man has a problem and now he's about to get it fixed. I also noticed that he didn't enter a plea in his court appearance yesterday, so they may still be negotiating.

What I want to know is how the x5848 account (belonging to Ohtani that was used to deposit his salary from the Angels) being effectively hidden from Ohtani's financial advisors/agents wasn't a red flag. If you're put in charge of overseeing all the financials for a wealthy individual, you need to have access to every account that person is signatory to. Agent 1 asked multiple times about the account and was told it was "private" and that Ohtani wanted it that way. On page 27, the complaint reads:

"h. Agent 1 was aware of the x5848 Account and asked MIZUHARA on multiple occasions about the account. MIZUHARA told Agent 1 that the x5848 Account was “private” and that Victim A did not want anyone else to monitor that account. Agent 1 stated that he did not confirm these representations directly with Victim A, but stated that he had no reason not to believe MIZUHARA."

JC, who was overseeing operations in relation to business accounts, executing transactions, and preparing Ohtani's taxes said they were "generally aware" of the account but had no idea about its balance or activity in the account. From page 28:

"e. J.C. was concerned that the lack of access to the x5848 Account created possible tax liability for Victim A if the x5848 Account accrued unreported interest or was used to make gifts in amounts necessary to be reported to the IRS. When J.C. inquired with Agent 1 about gaining oversight over the x5848 Account for tax preparation purposes, Agent 1 informed J.C. that MIZUHARA had stated that Victim A wanted the x5848 Account kept private and that he understood that the x5848 Account did not accrue interest or make gifts."

KF, an accountant for Agent 1, was responsible for preparing and filing Ohtani's taxes. KF has worked with Ohtani for the previous 5 years. They also brought up concerns, per page 29-30:

"d. In or about October of 2022, K.F. was scheduled to meet with Victim A and MIZUHARA, but only MIZUHARA arrived for the meeting. MIZUHARA stated that Victim A was sick, and unable to join the meeting. During that meeting, K.F. asked MIZUHARA about the x5848 Account, and stated that Victim A risked filing incorrect tax returns if there was interest being generated by any funds in the x5848 Account or any gifts from that account which triggered tax reporting requirements. MIZUHARA responded that Victim A wanted the x5848 Account kept private from everyone, and that the x5848 Account did not bear interest and that there were no gifts from the x5848 Account"

Again, if you are a party responsible for keeping track of financial assets of a very wealthy individual, why would you allow this? Any accountant, agent, or business partner who values not getting harassed by the government for improperly filed taxes is NOT going to let this shit fly. This is a majorly dropped ball and the fact that all the financial advisors went along with it should force them to lose their licenses.
 
Or, Ohtani was up to shenanigans and this "investigation" is a whitewash. MLB is significantly different than what it was when Pete Rose was nailed to the wall. They don't want to lose a golden goose like Ohtani, and face potential general backlash about carrying lucrative gambling sponsorships, and end up having to cut ties with same. This whole thing stinks, lol.
 
Even if Ohtani was involved, which I don't think he was although you can argue through proxy he was, no bets occurred on baseball itself, just other sports. I also get your point, Ohtani is a golden goose, much like Tiger Woods in golf is, so he can do shit that others can't. I think Mickey Mantle also got special treatment for his shit with gambling and he wasn't just associating with licensed casinos either.

Rose gambled on his own baseball team to win, but not every game, which mean he could hold back relievers and make decisions to enhance his teams chances to win on days he bet. As a player Rose should get into the Hall but in my opinion, only after he is dead so he can't enjoy it. Bonds, Clemens, Rafael Palmeiro and a host of others should already be in the Hall of Fame.
 
The fact that he actually didn't bet on Baseball is pretty funny to me. I like to imagine that he had the foresight to realize that since he works in baseball, getting caught betting on it would be a big no no, despite the fact that him getting caught at all is obviously going to be a big problem. Dude was literally stealing millions of dollars, and was going to be fucked either way if he got caught so I am disappointed that he didn't go all the way, bet against the Angels, and try to sabotage them from the inside.
 
Or, Ohtani was up to shenanigans and this "investigation" is a whitewash. MLB is significantly different than what it was when Pete Rose was nailed to the wall. They don't want to lose a golden goose like Ohtani, and face potential general backlash about carrying lucrative gambling sponsorships, and end up having to cut ties with same. This whole thing stinks, lol.

Have you actually read the complaint ?

Mizuhara is on tape impersonating Ohtani to move massive amounts of money.

Ohtani also gave up his phone, which Tom Brady refused to do during Deflategate.

How much more hard evidence do you want ?
 
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