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Michele said:
Key summary follows:
- Masae and Emile were dating for 10 years or so, planned to be married, but had to end the relationship. He made a video cameo with her thinking they were still friends, but since she didn't want to do it anymore, he stopped.

- Emily's friend did indeed contact him, it was the first time the behavior was met negatively for him. He WAS improving until she came out. He actually DID buy shoes for her birthday, it was a spur of moment. He calls out on the fact Emily even puts personal details about Emile's girlfriend. He doesn't deny what he did.

- Lawly thing is REAL, points out that the rape thing was a meme at that time, agrees the chat was getting out of hand, that's why the convo ended abruptly. In fact, he found out about 10 years later that she literally was trying to get him to have sex with her.

- Talks about his own life, mentions being assaulted when he was younger that led to his childhood trauma, he contemplated suicide, got diagnosed with quite a bit of untreated illness, talks about the present and his girlfriend.

The most crushing part to me, however, is that, all because of one person who put them on a blast, he has kind of lost his desire for doing LPs and is not sure if he would want to do it again or if it'd be fun. All because of a retarded guy, he has lost his passion.
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By far the most shocking part is that Masae was dating him for 10 years and made him keep it secret the whole time. There is really no read I can see on that other than 1) she was deeply ashamed of dating him and 2) is still ashamed/BPD spiteful to the point she maliciously left that information out of her callout post, sitting back and laughing as people interpreted every comment Chugga made to her in their old videos as sexual harassment rather than an autistic man flirting with his fiance.
Note that she is currently dating a guy called Brett (BrettUltimus on Twitter), they would have got together right around the time when Chugga says the engagement fell apart, and she promptly in March 2022 started a couple's LP channel with him called Couple's Couch. So she is clearly totally fine being public about her relationships on the internet when it suits her.

Edit: Brett just posted about him and the "oh honey, it will be funnier if our audience thinks you're just a perverse friend with no boundaries" bitch going on a date night. Interesting timing. (archive)
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KingLiberty76 said:
The fact that Masae was dating Chugga for a decade and they both were going to get married, only for her to call it off and then try to make him out to be a harasser is the most scummy thing I ever heard, fuck Masae
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I’m not super shocked by that, somehow, though I agree it is shitty as fuck. My personal suspicion is that their relationship had some element of her leeching off of a larger content creator (Chugga), both for views and money. After all, I’ve seen the videos from StephenPlays where Chugga gave him and his wife some pretty expensive gifts, and Chugga always had this definitely autistic enthusiasm about having been able to give nice gifts.

Some of his videos have alluded to him not exactly growing up with a ton of money, and I do genuinely think that he felt good being able to use the money he was making to get gifts for people they’d genuinely enjoy. There’s certainly people who would see that as him intentionally milking his ‘kindness’, but it always struck me as remarkably genuine. As such, if I'm correct on that, I’m pretty certain he would’ve been just as forthcoming with gifts with Masae… something I don’t doubt she reaped the benefits of. I’m not sure how the keeping it quiet factors into things, my gut says that it might’ve been to make cheating easier for Masae but that’s outside the scope of anything beyond just gut feeling.

I’m not saying Chugga was an absolute angel admittedly, it’s very much a ‘he said she said’ situation, but I lean towards believing him about more than I do Masae at the very least.
 
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Just the very idea becomes more absurd the more you think about it. Imagine having to police your thoughts for ten years to never mention that someone is your girlfriend/fiance, constantly having to second guess and have her review your posts for if this or that comment would come across as too romantic/sexual... and all his friends must have known too, what excuse did they get for keeping up this deception for ten fucking years? The whole thing sounds like an abusive nightmare where he would be made out to be the bad guy for the fans correctly shipping him and Masae, because of his cringe flirty jokes. I hope this therapy helps him realise he's not the abuser in this situation; she stole a decade of his life away and I'm glad that (at least judging by the document) he finally has a partner who appreciates and supports him, as well as a top best friend like Tim.
 
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This part in particular feels disingenuous. Maybe he's being honest, but "I don't even remember that, it was PROBABLY a TOPICAL joke!" is really flimsy. Tranny Emily is a massive cunt, but this Lawly rationalization isn't passing the sniff test.
 
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Mackerel Fish Stew said:
Edit: Brett just posted about him and the "oh honey, it will be funnier if our audience thinks you're just a perverse friend with no boundaries" bitch going on a date night. Interesting timing. (archive)
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I was honestly expecting Brett to be this Asian Chad type that honestly WOULD have put Emile to shame. Guess not. He looks even worse than Emile lol. Time has not treated Masae well at all, haha.
Men on the Internet. If you're not going to shave, please properly wash and brush your facial hair.
 
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Harm said:
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This part in particular feels disingenuous. Maybe he's being honest, but "I don't even remember that, it was PROBABLY a TOPICAL joke!" is really flimsy. Tranny Emily is a massive cunt, but this Lawly rationalization isn't passing the sniff test.
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If asked, could you remember the rationale behind an edgy joke you made to some person in DMs 14 years ago? And indeed Pedobear was a huge meme at that time; Chugga saying "I'M GOING TO RAPE YOU" also came up in those messages, was also a meme, and I remember him quoting it in his early LPs. He explains in the document how this was hyper-edgy 2000s internet humour and alien to the standards of today.
 
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Michele said:
Key summary follows:
- Masae and Emile were dating for 10 years or so, planned to be married, but had to end the relationship. He made a video cameo with her thinking they were still friends, but since she didn't want to do it anymore, he stopped.

- Emily's friend did indeed contact him, it was the first time the behavior was met negatively for him. He WAS improving until she came out. He actually DID buy shoes for her birthday, it was a spur of moment. He calls out on the fact Emily even puts personal details about Emile's girlfriend. He doesn't deny what he did.

- Lawly thing is REAL, points out that the rape thing was a meme at that time, agrees the chat was getting out of hand, that's why the convo ended abruptly. In fact, he found out about 10 years later that she literally was trying to get him to have sex with her.

- Talks about his own life, mentions being assaulted when he was younger that led to his childhood trauma, he contemplated suicide, got diagnosed with quite a bit of untreated illness, talks about the present and his girlfriend.

The most crushing part to me, however, is that, all because of one person who put them on a blast, he has kind of lost his desire for doing LPs and is not sure if he would want to do it again or if it'd be fun. All because of a retarded guy, he has lost his passion.
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i honestly cannot blame emile if he decides to never make videos again. the way he explains things something tells me his videos were also a way for him to handle his various mental issues. so if making those videos just causes further problems he owes it to himself to just stop.

that being said this was a pretty well thought out response. the way he explained the stuff with masae was pretty interesting. masae sounds crazy or perhaps she was forcing herself to be around emile the whole time until she found someone better. either way it was pretty scummy of her to act like emile was some weirdo all that time when they were not only dating but going to get married. i get wanting to keep things private but there is a limit.

the lawly stuff is as i expected she was one of those girls who enjoyed messing with guys and trying to get them to sleep with her. i do find it interesting that she followed him around for a fair amount of his life it makes me wonder if while she claims to have changed part of her is still upset that she never managed to fully lure in chugga.

i think the main lesson with all of this however is that troons should never be trusted the second they see a chance to try and make themselves a victim they will do it with zero concern for anyone else. emile could have killed himself if not from this then from the guilt he felt for his mom and girlfriend both suffering so much because of how worried they were for him and all sir dalton would have done was claim himself the victor and go on and on about how much of a victim he is and chuggas death means he is right.

the best people in this whole thing have been tim and emiles girlfriend. he is genuinely lucky to have not one but two people that care about him that much. emile mentions something about a friend accusing him of things or something like that and i think that friend was jon but i could be wrong. either way i hope emile does what makes him happiest and moves forward in life.
Harm said:
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This part in particular feels disingenuous. Maybe he's being honest, but "I don't even remember that, it was PROBABLY a TOPICAL joke!" is really flimsy. Tranny Emily is a massive cunt, but this Lawly rationalization isn't passing the sniff test.
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it makes perfect sense to me. he is not wrong about pedobear or how things were back then. i think if he was a pedo then there would be way more evidence of him going along with things rather than just making jokes and just being generally awkward the whole time. shes always the one pushing. constantly pushing. she even admits as much and confesses that her plan was to get him to sleep with her. if anything i would be concerned about her instead of chugga.
 
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Jesus Christ... I'm at a loss for words. Not gonna sadpost too much, but I'd be lying if I said his response didn't make me tear up.
There are so many points to this, it's hard to know where to start.

Emile and Masae actually were engaged and it wasn't a joke, but she didn't want anyone to publicly know about their relationship... only for her to mention her current boyfriend without a second thought. I understand wanting to keep a relationship private- Hell, I'd recommend doing just that, but to keep it under wraps the entire time, effectively lying by omission? That doesn't sound like someone who wants to keep it on the downlow, so much as it sounds like she was potentially embarrassed being with him.

Lawly sounded fucking unhinged. "I really want to get fucked by an older guy while I'm still a teen. Here, let me send you sex toys and vulgar shirts! I wish you'd sleep with me." Even though these are ancient chat logs, she sounded very, very disturbed.

I couldn't blame Emile for never uploading another video ever again. He has a good support system, a good head on his shoulders, and is making strides in constantly improving himself. Besides, we'll always have his current videos to rewatch and enjoy. Do what makes YOU happy, Emile.

Friendly reminder that a lot of this transpired simply because Sir Dalton got triggered by a fucking Reddit post. Dalton/Masae/Lawly/Antdude/Miss Fushi/anyone else involved with trying to bring him down - I sincerely hope they have the day they deserve.
 
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KingLiberty76 said:
After nearly 3 months, Chuggaaconroy just released a google docs going over everything that happened and provided context to the interactions in a google doc and series of tweets called "Hey, Everybody"
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Ok so from what I'm seeing
>Masae is a jilted ex who lied to fuck Chugga over
>Lawly saw the hate train that was headed Chugga's direction and decided to dump decades-old chatlogs and lie about their interactions to fuck Chugga over
>"Lady Emily" AKA Dalton Bray is a fat, fugly man-faced skinwalking troon who lied to fuck Chugga over

Every update this drama gets makes me more and more angry. Dalton saw someone on fucking REDDIT praise Chugga for being clean, then coordinated a bunch of scorned snakes to assassinate his career. Fuck this faggot tranny Dalton, fuck Lawly, fuck AntDude, fuck Fushi, and fuck Masae for bold-faced lying about her and Chugga's relationship.

Masae in particular probably just wanted all the clips archiving their relationship to disappear because her neurotic ass felt some level of embarrassment over having gotten so romantically involved with Chugga. She hid the relationship the entire time it was happening and used Emily's bullshit as an excuse to publicly sever ties with Chugga.
 
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Tetragrammaton said:
emile mentions something about a friend accusing him of things or something like that and i think that friend was jon but i could be wrong.
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Mind you he still thanks his "close" friends but doesn't name names besides Tim and his GF, so keep that in mind.
 
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Tetragrammaton said:
emile mentions something about a friend accusing him of things or something like that and i think that friend was jon but i could be wrong.
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I'm now reminded of how when Masae released her statement, Lucahjin commended Masae for her 'bravery'. One would assume that Lucahjin, being married to Jon, would be aware of Masae and Emile's past relationship. It seems to me that Masae and Emile's relationship was either secret even to their close friends, or that Lucahjin (and possibly Jon) chose to pick sides and decided to go with Masae – personally, I'm leaning towards the latter option.
 
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Having this extra context just makes almost everyone involved in the situation outside of Emile, his girlfriend, and Tim look irredeemably terrible. "Emily" has obviously been acting in bad faith since day one, but Masae just comes off as a manipulative partner now. In a vacuum I wouldn't think much of online personalities hiding their relationships, in a lot of cases it's the smart thing to do with how many deranged fuckers will target someone's significant other to get at them, but since she's been so open about seeing this new guy it's clear she's not thinking along those lines. Was she scared that jealous Chugga fangirls would flip out at her for it? Maybe for the first year or so, but eventually you'd get over that. It just seems like she was neurotically setting rules to maintain control over an autistic guy who wouldn't think to ask about it.

That Lawly person is just a full-on mental case. Her parents are obviously fucking embarrassments if they've brought up a chick who statutory-rapebaited as a teenager and then indulged in character assassination as an adult.

Part of me wishes he'd gone full scorched-Earth on these cunts rather than being overly charitable about their intentions and asking people not to harass them, but at the same time these past few months have obviously been hell for him so I can't blame him for wanting to de-escalate his audience to the best of his ability and move on, rather than get dragged into another round of bullshit. I hope he'll have a change of heart about videos down the line too, it's really not fair for someone to be pushed out of a job they love because other people lie about them.
 
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