US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Introvertigo]

Well they aren’t getting on.

Which is amazing because of how wildy popular, read and praised Art of the Deal was before he ran.

I don't know, I mean they may have taken him, I mean they got 6 jurors at the moment. I am just trying to be optimistic okay.

In other news:

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www.vox.com

This should happen in more states so that by summer, we will be fine.

 

[tehpope]

In case you're wondering how the media is spinning "Trump has to attend court or else he'll get arrested":

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The outlet is The Independent.

Joepedo having a meltdown in PA in front of 100 people:

Trump never said that. I know, you're shocked. He also was advised by his chief of staff, IIRC, to not go to the cemetery because of weather conditions.

 

[Jaimas]

Because I generally like your spark I will say you should not rely on that video too much. While the man in it does bring up quite a few valid points and does present an impressively detailed picture... he also has some rather severe biases and is presenting a lot of grey facts in only the blackest light, many such facts being grey in the very material he cites. He does come off as rather sincere in his views so this is likely a case of internal bias overriding thorough research and not any form of malice. In the end the poster in here who has been doing the longer posts is generally right in that it was really both sides who wanted that war, or at least did nothing to actually avert it.

Lincoln was not the devil incarnate... but he was far, far from a saint either. His crack down on the press is well documented as was his dictatorial tendencies and his massive mishandling of the war in general. Yet, we do not need to turn him into a cartoon villain in the process of acknowledging his faults.

"Hate the man if you must, but do so honestly."

I lost count of how many people I said this to over the Donald. Lost a lot of friends because I refused to acknowledge him as Quadruple Super Hitler.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Joepedo having a meltdown in PA in front of 100 people:

He is lying of course but I am shocked he almost sounded like a human being there. It's been years since I have seen Biden actually sound like he isn't on the verge of passing out or of a stroke.

They must have gotten some of that good shit from the experimental pharmaceuticals wing of the FDA.

 

[mlanguishi]

He is lying of course but I am shocked he almost sounded like a human being there. It's been years since I have seen Biden actually sound like he isn't on the verge of passing out or of a stroke.

They must have gotten some of that good shit from the experimental pharmaceuticals wing of the FDA.

You know where I never see any videos of him? Dailykos or democraticunderground or any leftwing media. All they got is Trump. That's really all they had in 2020 too and it worked, so their best strategy is to keep him in the basement and away from cameras.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

Here's how retardedly biased the NY case is:

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As if the fact that Bragg made law up out of thin air to charge Trump with was not bad enough there is yet another reason for appeal.

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Is taking someone out of context intentionally to smear them defamation? I noticed Presidents can be sued for that now.

Speaker Johnson is turning into a Romney before our eyes, whatever video they showed of his wife cucking him broke him:

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Either this guy is the best actor on the planet or they have some deeply disturbing shit on him.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

You know where I never see any videos of him? Dailykos or democraticunderground or any leftwing media. All they got is Trump. That's really all they had in 2020 too and it worked, so their best strategy is to keep him in the basement and away from cameras.

They NEVER show video of him. They have clips of him with no audio and a description of what was said by the journalist but never actual one on one audio.

They know showing his decrepit, wheezing speech at a snails pace with a physical look that makes late Prince Phillip look younger than him is a horrendous look.

 

[Breadbassket]

Johnson's leadership is under threat in the House over foreign aid bills​

A second Republican member is supporting an effort to oust House Speaker Mike Johnson.

Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., says he is co-sponsoring a resolution by Georgia Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, as frustration grows among blocs of conservative members at Johnson's proposed foreign aid package.

"We're steering everything toward what [Senate Majority Leader] Chuck Schumer wants," Massie said of his complaints with Johnson. "I mean, if the country likes Chuck Schumer, then they should like what Speaker Johnson's accomplished in the House."

The Kentucky Republican pointed to three areas where he feels Johnson has let his conference down: the latest spending package, the House's renewal of Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act that allows for warrantless surveillance of foreign nationals inside the U.S., and aid to Ukraine.

Johnson announced Monday plans to move forward on four separate bills to address foreign aid, including to Israel and Ukraine.

Schumer and the White House haven't ruled out backing Johnson's plan.

Massie said he asked Johnson to resign during a closed-door meeting with GOP House members Tuesday morning.

"He said he would not," Massie told reporters after the meeting.

Massie argued Johnson should pre-announce his resignation, like former GOP Speaker John Boehner, so that members could coalesce around a replacement and avoid the drawn-out process they faced last fall when they ultimately elected Johnson as speaker.

"If somebody calls in a motion to vacate on the floor, and it succeeds, which it will, now you have no speaker," Massie said. "And then you have a temporary speaker and it's a hot mess.

His comments come almost a month after Greene filed a motion to vacate resolution over disputes with the speaker on how he handled a $1.2 trillion appropriations package. That resolution is not privileged, meaning it's unclear when it might be brought to the floor for a vote.

Massie said if it is called for a vote, "there will be a lot of people who vote for it."

South Carolina Rep. Ralph Norman, a member of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, said he respects Massie but disagrees with his support of the motion to vacate.

"The last thing this country needs is to throw a speaker out, even though I disagree with what he's done," Norman said.

After the meeting, Johnson told reporters that "steady leadership" is needed and the motion-to-vacate threat weakens the GOP conference.

"It is, in my view, an absurd notion that someone would bring a vacate motion when we are simply here trying to do our jobs. It is not helpful to the cause," Johnson said. "We have to have a united front and we have to have our members work together."

Johnson has a razor-thin majority, which goes down to one seat on Friday when Wisconsin Rep. Mike Gallagher's retirement becomes effective. If Greene were to call for a vote, Johnson would likely need support from Democrats to keep the gavel.

Florida Democratic Rep. Jared Moskowitz has already said he would support Johnson in a motion to vacate vote.

"Massie wants the world to burn, I won't stand by and watch. I have a bucket of water," he posted on X.

Democratic Caucus Chair Pete Aguilar told reporters Tuesday that Democrats want to see aid move forward to Ukraine and Israel.

"That's what we're focused on right now. We can't control the theatrics of Marjorie Taylor Greene and the House Republican conference," he said. "We don't like the chaos and the dysfunction. We've been down this road before."

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[Your Girlfriend's Dad]

and those happenings have threads in AN, if you want to change the topic itt go ahead. but whining about us political history is pretty bitch made. I learned some stuff about de cibbil wah.

Look man, I love US History, and the Civil War is certainly a topic of great import, even now. But if we're going to delineate between shit that should be discussed in this thread and shit that can be spun off elsewhere, let's keep this thread for US-involved current events.

Last week? Sure. This week? Interest rates remained firm, Trump has 3 active trials with daily updates, Iran retaliated against Israel and the US was involved in defense, and lawfare exists in every state legislature across pretty much any subject you can point at with a finger.

Love the focus and discussion of Lincoln, but it shouldn't be every other post for days on end. That's all.

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

Every now and then, I'll pop into someone like Moviebob's thread where they'll say shit like "We don't need the Republicans, only Democrats and Progressives."

When I see those statements, I want to say "We're already there. Now what?"

 

[Introvertigo]

I don't know, I mean they may have taken him, I mean they got 6 jurors at the moment. I am just trying to be optimistic okay.

In other news:

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www.vox.com

This should happen in more states so that by summer, we will be fine.

Did anyone notice this?

 

[Breadbassket]

Did anyone notice this?

Interesting ruling, I won't be surprised if people attempt to go around or ignore it.

 

[pwnest injun]

"Hate the man if you must, but do so honestly."

I lost count of how many people I said this to over the Donald. Lost a lot of friends because I refused to acknowledge him as Quadruple Super Hitler.

Trump is so bad that people have to constantly lie about him to prove how bad he is...

One thing about our current situation that has proven useful is that it's allowed me to evaluate a lot of my previous assumptions. For example, there are a lot of people in my life who I thought of as intelligent. But what I realized is that what people think of as intelligence is more a matter of agreement. The more you agree with a person's thoughts or actions, the more intelligent you think they are. So in a way, people who aren't intelligent at all manage to falsely signal their intelligence by simply repeating the thoughts and opinions of what are considered intelligent people. It's like the difference between being witty and repeating jokes you read from a book.

But, anyway, if a person allows others to lie to them, or trusts people who intentionally withhold information from them, that person isn't intelligent. They don't want to understand anything. They just want to know what they're meant to say in order to feign it. They are false people. Recognize it and behave accordingly.

Did anyone notice this?

It's Vox. Their legal analysis is as useful as a Zimbabwean dollar.

 

[Hüftpriester]

Trump in Harlem. They're gonna have to rig the hell out of this election.

 

[mandatorylurk]

That's the same bodega where Jose Alba worked and stabbed the criminal to death, who then Bragg tried to put on trial until the pressure was too much. Very smart.

I expect the judge tomorrow to say this was jury tampering and warn him he can't go anywhere but to and from Trump Tower during the week, this was the wrong optics the fags in NYC wanted.

 

[tehpope]

Trump in Harlem. They're gonna have to rig the hell out of this election.

Don't have to rig an election if there is no election.

/sneed

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

I can't even guess what the DNC'c plan is anymore. Everything is going fucking nuts.

Trump's on trial for a 3rd time with more bogus charges even the MSM can't sell.
The war in Ukraine rolls on but now Russia is winning cuz the US cash is going to Israel.
The Middle East is about to erupt into open conflict with Biden's support for war on Iran
The economy is one misstep away from total collapse and I'm sure the up coming OPEC shenanigans won't help
The boarders are being forced open to illegals for reasons I can't even comprehend
Chairman Meow is openly talking about reclaiming Taiwan and Biden doesn't even comment
Inflation is spiralling up, no matter how many MSM articles they spew out about best economy ever people are really hurting and yet more people are pouring into America every day

Whats the game plan? Whats the thought process for the next few years? Just more shit flinging if the Dems lose or more wars if they win?

I thought the adults were in charge now but everywhere I look things are massively shitter then 4 years ago and all I can see for the future is more craziness as no one seems to be trying to fix anything. They're just screaming about Orange Hitler gassing the Tranny's and making the money printer go brrrrrrrr.

At what point will the system just start to collapse in on itself?

 

[northstar747]

The economy is one misstep away from total collapse

can you quaify what you think total collapse is?

Look where I agree with you A&N people is that yes US monetary policey is pants on head retarded. I honestly agree with you there.

But I ve been read peter schiff, carl zinger, and a bunch of gold/sliver bugs talk about this shit for going on two decades.

The US economy in terms of natural resources namely food, raw materials, energy etc is pretty fucking strong. We used cheap chinese labor in the 1990s along with the peace divided to offset deflation pretty well. But I dont fucking see bread lines or rationing coming back anytime soon.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Whats the game plan? Whats the thought process for the next few years? Just more shit flinging if the Dems lose or more wars if they win?

They don't have one.

I am convinced these people don't actually understand what they are doing anymore because they are so disconnected from the real world they are buying their own propaganda. Not helped by the fact most of their younger employees and helpers and support personel are now true believers who also buy the propaganda and try and think in terms of it.

It's how you get such insane shit. They are working on faulty intel fed to them by ass kissing analysts and secretaries and keep doubling down.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

The Middle East is about to erupt into open conflict with Biden's support for war on Iran

Not sure i agree with this. Iran's attack was heavily telegraphed. the US knew it was coming, the Israelis knew it was coming and so on. it was more of a saving face diplomatic maneuver more than anything.
If you remember, the Iranians did a similar attack after Trump ordered the assassination of Solemani. they shot down a US drone in the gulf and fired a salvo of ballistic missiles at a mostly abandonded US base (the US knew of the attack beforehand and ordered a evacuation). the only troops injured were essential personnel, and as far is i can remember no one was killed.
The Iranians proved their point, and the US did not respond and the pressure was released. If Netan yahoo is smart he will do the same. maybe bomb some Iranian backed militias or something.