US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Seething Troon Collector]

Ignore all the other states that Lincoln violently put down that had nothing to do with slavery such as Maryland and several other states that want slave states that also wanted to join the confederacy
it was about slavery even though several slave states joined the union it was about preserving the union slavery is a post hawk justification and Abraham Lincoln wanted to send all the blacks back to Africa anyways

Look I’m all for some civil war sperging but for the love of god could you spin up a thread in Mass Debates to discuss it instead of here.

 

[Rekeita's Kidneys]

Have a civil war debate thread, would be a much better place for that discussion imho

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

His left is index finger the right is the middle.

 

[Gorillion others]

https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/04/16/thousands-of-illegals-descend-on-new-york-city-hall-for-hearing-on-experience-of-black-migrants-n2395173

https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/04/16/oliver-darcy-npr-dismisses-right-wing-attacks-on-new-ceo-over-old-tweets-skewering-trump-n2395175

https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/04/16/bail-fund-for-bridge-blockers-n2395147

 

[tehpope]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rfk-jr-wont-pursue-libertarian-nomination-says-team-trump-asked-him-be-vp

After seriously considering the possibility, 2024 presidential hopeful Robert F. Kennedy, Jr has declared he will not seek the Libertarian Party nomination, saying he's confident he'll achieve ballot access across the country on his own. Meanwhile, in a social media skirmish with Team Trump, Kennedy said Trump associates asked him to consider becoming the former president's running mate.

In a political system with formidable ballot-access barriers that protect the Democrat-Republican duopoly, outsider presidential candidates are frequently attracted to the idea of running as a Libertarian -- if only to access the party's hard-earned, 50-state ballot qualification.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/student-debt-plan-would-add-750-billion-budget-deficit

By The Committee for A Responsible Federal Budget

The Biden Administration recently announced a new plan to cancel student debt for up to 30 million borrowers and released a preliminary rule this morning detailing parts of this plan. The proposal, which is being introduced through the rule making process, would replace the Administration’s initial proposal to cancel between $10,000 and $20,000 per person of debt, which was struck down by the Supreme Court.

Elements of the plan in today’s proposed rule would cost nearly $150 billion, according to the Department of Education. However, this excludes a proposal to allow the Secretary of Education to cancel debt for those facing hardship or likely to default. Including this provision, we estimate the plan could cost $250 billion to $750 billion, depending on how the additional cancellation is designed.

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-top-10-states-real-gdp-growth

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-refuses-testify-gop-impeachment-inquiry

President Joe Biden will not be testifying to U.S. House of Representatives members who are engaged in an impeachment inquiry against him, the White House said on April 15.


Richard Sauber, special counsel to the president, told House Oversight Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) that the president would not testify in the “partisan charade.”

“Your committee’s purported ‘impeachment inquiry’ has succeeded only in turning up abundant evidence that, in fact, the president has done nothing wrong,” Mr. Sauber said in a letter to Mr. Comer.

“Your insistence on peddling these false and unsupported allegations despite ample evidence to the contrary makes one thing about your investigation abundantly clear: The facts do not matter to you,” he added.

Republicans in their investigation have found that millions of dollars flowed from businesses and individuals, including foreigners, to members of the Biden family while President Biden was vice president.

They’ve also identified payments from Hunter Biden’s business to the president, and from the president’s brother to him, as well as emails between President Biden and an associate of Hunter Biden. Several witnesses, meanwhile, testified that President Biden would get on the phone with Hunter Biden’s associates and that he attended multiple meals with them.

President Biden and the White House have maintained that he was not involved with the business undertaken by his son and brother.

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

750 billion?

Holy fuck nuggets. That's gota be the most expensive election bribe in history.

How bad must the DNC internal polls be to pull this insanity out?

 

[Individualism Incarnate]

Although if another war starts on Biden's watch, in regards to Israel or China, I legitimately think he's done. I just don't see how it's possible to recover from that.

There is no war in Ba Sing Se Ukraine Israel Taiwan.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

750 billion?

Holy fuck nuggets. That's gota be the most expensive election bribe in history.

How bad must the DNC internal polls be to pull this insanity out?

the polls they release publicly are bad enough, imagine what the internal polls must be. NY is down to high single digits. Trump is up in Nevada by 4 points. NC is going the way Florida did and is growing more red and soon won't be a battleground anymore. Trump's up 8 points in GA. Trump is polling better now than he ever did in 2016 or 2020.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

its crazy we're still 7 months away from the election.

Trump is polling better now than he ever did in 2016 or 2020.

this is the worst case scenario, we already know how both candidates would do as president. There's a reason Cleveland won again. at minimum people will still have fond memories of how great the economy was 4 years ago. plus public discourse has shifted so much that Trump's hot takes like "haiti is a shithole" or "we need to ban Palestinians and iranians from the country" are blatantly proven right

At what point will the system just start to collapse in on itself?

Jan 21st. They have to know the polls show they're fucked, they're still trying to put trump in prison but everyone else in the group is stealing as much shit as possible because they don't really believe even with him in prison that he won't be elected.

If they thought Biden had a decent shot the last 6 months wouldn't have been them accelerating everything. Everyone in power is old enough to remember Crown Heights, the jews with the money are fucking pissed. most everyone is just hoping to keep the ship afloat long enough to reach January

trying to make AI interviewers a thing.

i'll trust an AI's judgement over a non-white, woman or jew. mostly because a white man would have to code it in the first place so i'd have more of a connection than with a chink woman with a neck tattoo and hoop earrings interviewing me.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/these-are-top-10-states-real-gdp-growth

not to rain on the parade but the DC metro has expanded so much that the rich government contractors are buying houses in WV and commuting, it also helps that WV schools don't have the trannies, drug problems or nigs of the schools around the area.

 

[Jaimas]

the polls they release publicly are bad enough, imagine what the internal polls must be. NY is down to high single digits. Trump is up in Nevada by 4 points. NC is going the way Florida did and is growing more red and soon won't be a battleground anymore. Trump's up 8 points in GA. Trump is polling better now than he ever did in 2016 or 2020.

NY has been trending red for years due to NYC's fuckups. In 2022 the Repubs swept town and local assembly groups (they have a complete lock on them now, which has never happened before in the state's history) and took a sizable chunk of Nassau's assembly as well. Nassau County then immediately banned transgender athletes from competing with women at public facilities. In fucking New York.

The only reason that Hochul beat Zeldin in 2022 was due to electoral fuckery.

Shit on the ground in their circles has to be fucking apocalyptic.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Jan 21st. They have to know the polls show they're fucked, they're still trying to put trump in prison but everyone else in the group is stealing as much shit as possible because they don't really believe even with him in prison that he won't be elected.

If they thought Biden had a decent shot the last 6 months wouldn't have been them accelerating everything. Everyone in power is old enough to remember Crown Heights, the jews with the money are fucking pissed. most everyone is just hoping to keep the ship afloat long enough to reach January

This is why I want Trump to win the election, wait for Biden to make his resignation speech, and then decline to take office. The Federal government as a bureaucracy is so broken that it's got to be completely dismantled from top to bottom and no president has the power to do that.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

NY has been trending red for years due to NYC's fuckups. In 2022 the Repubs swept town and local assembly groups (they have a complete lock on them now, which has never happened before in the state's history) and took a sizable chunk of Nassau's assembly as well. Nassau County then immediately banned transgender athletes from competing with women at public facilities. In fucking New York.

The only reason that Hochul beat Zeldin in 2022 was due to electoral fuckery.

Shit on the ground in their circles has to be fucking apocalyptic.

maybe, maybe not IDK. there are a substantial amount of trump voters who are fans of Shapiro in PA and Whitmer in MI and beshear in KY. I couldn't tell you why.

 

[Gehenna]

NY has been trending red for years due to NYC's fuckups. In 2022 the Repubs swept town and local assembly groups (they have a complete lock on them now, which has never happened before in the state's history) and took a sizable chunk of Nassau's assembly as well. Nassau County then immediately banned transgender athletes from competing with women at public facilities. In fucking New York.

The only reason that Hochul beat Zeldin in 2022 was due to electoral fuckery.

Shit on the ground in their circles has to be fucking apocalyptic.

This election really will be a war between an utterly devastated left-wing ground game mixed with a resurgent and pissed off right.... versus ballet printer goes brrrrrrrr. There is no way, at all, the democrat's do not get fucking destroyed in both chambers of congress and the executive... on paper. The "keys to the Whitehouse" has every single key be False. If 6 or more are false it means a presidential incumbent loses. 13 of 13 are false. Beyond that every polling metric... has Trump leading,

The senate? Defacto 23 for Democrats and only 11 for Republicans means its already a hard battle , add in that only one of the republican seats is in a weaker state and as much as eight of the Democrats could be considered in play... and weeeeeell. Not an enviable position to be in on a presidential election where turnout will be incredibly high.

As for the house? Already Republican controlled, in year where the Republican is polling high enough to possibly get the popular vote? That's on paper going to be a bloodbath.


And in the other corner, a bedraggled and beleaguered fraud machine, that has every last bit of news coming out be how it will need to work even harder. This will be -interesting- to watch,

 

[dustbuster]

here is no way, at all, the democrat's do not get fucking destroyed in both chambers of congress and the executive... on paper.

Except GOP house leadership bending us over, acting as manservants to the same corruption that is running Show Trials up and down the country and making a terminal run on the First Amendment.

I am very, VERY prepared to vote democrat to oust my traitorous rep, with the goal of getting churn out of that "safe red" seat so a populist can be sitting in it.
The Senate I'm less concerned about. There are obvious changes happening in leadership there that the common man can get behind, but the house GOP is absolutely doing everything it can to piss its base off into staying home.

I don't even see why anyone should vote for Matt Gaetz or any of the other "firebrands" since they're failing as we speak to vacate the chair.

 

[Gehenna]

Except GOP house leadership bending us over, acting as manservants to the same corruption that is running Show Trials up and down the country and making a terminal run on the First Amendment.

I am very, VERY prepared to vote democrat to oust my traitorous rep, with the goal of getting churn out of that "safe red" seat so a populist can be sitting in it.
The Senate I'm less concerned about. There are obvious changes happening in leadership there that the common man can get behind, but the house GOP is absolutely doing everything it can to piss its base off into staying home.

I don't even see why anyone should vote for Matt Gaetz or any of the other "firebrands" since they're failing as we speak to vacate the chair.

As I said, on paper. And if 2022 taught me anything its to never, ever underestimate how much the Uniparty republicans will eagerly do their best to throw safe seats just to spite Trump.

 

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And in the other corner, a bedraggled and beleaguered fraud machine, that has every last bit of news coming out be how it will need to work even harder. This will be -interesting- to watch,

What I want to know is after the election, the evidence of rigging that will inevitably come out... will the press be able to suppress it this time? The lawsuits against Fox et all probably gave even the righty news outlets an internal mandate to ignore electrion fraud stories no matter what.

They'll be broken down rigging machines which increases the odds they'll fuck up, they'll be desperate which increases the odds they'll fuck up, and they'll have to do way more rigging this time which increases the odds they'll fuck up a LOT.

And what happens if there's ironclad evidence that the DNC (through one of their puppet orgs) was rigging a national election? Do we pull a JFK and just politely ignore it cause the alternative is immediate civil war?

 

[draggs]

Let's vacate the chair 3 or 4 times between now and November so the great mass of normies really gets turned off to our totally lacking in self awareness autistic tantrums

For fuck's sake

 

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Let's vacate the chair 3 or 4 times between now and November so the great mass of normies really gets turned off to our totally lacking in self awareness autistic tantrums

For fuck's sake

"We have to let the Uniparty RINOs put the brakes on everything that might possibly be done to stop or harm Biden's admin or it looks bad" is right on par with "We need to lose with dignity."

 

[Gehenna]

"We have to let the Uniparty RINOs put the brakes on everything that might possibly be done to stop or harm Biden's admin or it looks bad" is right on par with "We need to lose with dignity."

Eeeeh there is some truth to the former. Push too hard and too often and it becomes the usual, weakening your position overall. it is better to be targeted and focused on where and when you really wanna push especially when you have a lot of traitors in your midst. Trying and failing to do something is worse than never trying at all.

That being said, the current house leadership is really failing to even meet that low bar of requirements.

 

[Kane Lives]

Eeeeh there is some truth to the former. Push too hard and too often and it becomes the usual, weakening your position overall. it is better to be targeted and focused on where and when you really wanna push especially when you have a lot of traitors in your midst. Trying and failing to do something is worse than never trying at all.

That being said, the current house leadership is really failing to even meet that low bar of requirements.

By the standards of the unspoken goal of 'being the heel and making sure the populist wings is stifled', they're doing incredibly well.