Steve Quest (p/k/a Montagraph) vs. Nicholas Robert Rekieta & Rekieta Law, LLC (2023)

Nick used to be such a nitpicker about well written documents but couldn't even manage to see that his own case isn't a massive fuck up.
Let me ask this question what could cause Nick to fire Randazza?

One is obviously if this whole SLAPP thing fails.

But I think the other thing that could reasonably happen is if Randazza fucks up bad enough on something he could have won but didn't.

Filing something that is objectively wrong does not bode well for Randazza.
 
Filing something that is objectively wrong does not bode well for Randazza.
Nick is a retard and Nick is the client. Nobody else will make the retarded arguments Nick is vastly eager to dump immense amounts of money on. Seriously, Randazza isn't ripping Nick off. Nick actually WANTS this level of stupidity. This kind of shit is what Nick is PAYING FOR.

I should note that despite this, getting basic details of the legislative history here wrong should be embarrassing. The legislative enactment in the House of Minnesota does, in fact, clearly apply to pending cases.
 
Let me ask this question what could cause Nick to fire Randazza?
Nothing because the kiwi incels would make fun of him and point out that it's been said multiple times and all stages of the lawsuit that hiring Randazza was a dumb fucking idea, this will cause his totally real ODD to kick into high gear and make him pay Randazza a million hours.
 
That's good enough to be a Greer level move.
Greer is just retarded, Randazza is malicious in fucking his client (and perhaps literally too)
The most hilarious thing is the litigious lolcow plaintiff is somehow not the dumbest person in the room with this case.
The thing that keeps surprising me is that every time Montagraph does something retarded in this case, Nick immediately does something more retarded, which prompts Montagraph to outretard Nick, which forces Nick to outretard Montagraph. No joke, the Judge is probably the most mentally sound party (though, really, not by much) in this case, and that's not really a good thing.
Let me ask this question what could cause Nick to fire Randazza?
Realization that he is paying way too much for something that produced literally no favorable results. Montagraph's lawyer is probably much cheaper, and oral (appellate) argument aside, performed much better.
if Randazza fucks up bad enough on something he could have won but didn't.
Reminder that Randazza purposely miscited the Maddow case to not get this thrown out immediately. It's not binding on this court (Minnesota is in 8th as opposed to 9th), but other courts (including of the state whose laws Nick wants imported on this case) have cited the decision favorably. It is THE decision to use in this case. You don't want to do retarded citations about context, there are better cases for that. What you want to cite is, "Herring Networks, Inc. v. Maddow , 8 F.4th 1148, 1157 (9th Cir. 2021) (holding television host Rachel Maddow's statement that "OAN ‘really literally is paid Russian propaganda’ " was opinion)" and state that this is identical to that case. Just like in that case, the word "literally" shouldn't have a meaning, and therefore no reasonable person could conclude it was a factual statement. THEN you can cite the case's context part, but Randazza already had used Tucker's case for it. The case slots in perfectly. In both cases the parties made a factual statement that amounted to defamation per se (impugning business integrity v accusation of a crime). Context of both is a opinionated show that sometimes gets heated. Legally he probably wouldn't have found a better fit. BUT NO, Randazza couldn't cite the actually good part for his client. HE JUST HAD TO make multiple identical and superfluous arguments.
 
I believe that is saying it would apply to existing civil lawsuits that were still pending the day after the governor would sign the bill.

Is an appeal 'PENDING'? Not sure if the American system would encompas appeals or treats them separately.

Might this be another appeal avenue? I am not a lawyer, but if Randazza takes the position that by NOT considering the new law then he could have won?

Rekieta: Can I see a reference to when I said that?

Judge: Are you stating that that didn’t happen, sir? Because I don’t have time to be checking references. If I find a reference, and you made me go ten minutes to look for a reference, I’m going to make you spend ten minutes in the cell.

This made me laugh. It would be a good way to tard wrangle intractable clients, but I doubt it would fly in America.

Response. Randazza basically says that "lmao, I won, Nigger"
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LMAO! If this stellar representation gets Nick adjudicated a defamed, I need to add something like 'Defamation Expert' or 'Defamation Practitioner' to his main thread title.

Nick used to be such a nitpicker about well written documents but couldn't even manage to see that his own case isn't a massive fuck up.

Nick no longer has the brain cells or the moral standing to take shots at anyone.
 
Not having read the bill, isn't all of this largely academic? Barring a Chupp-like line if reasoning from the judge, even with Colorado law or the pending Minnesota bill, I still don't see how calling someone a pedofile isn't per se defamation or is somehow protected speech.
 
I still don't see how calling someone a pedofile isn't per se defamation or is somehow protected speech.
It may be that due to the context of the nature of his show, and words having no meaning, that his words could be considered an opinion (see the Maddow case as a slot in). Alternatively, due to Montagraph's long standing reputation of being a pedophile (and allegedly directly movies where he lists himself as a rapist of an underage girl), he might be get away with it too, or be technically liable, but with little or no damages, including punitive ones. In cases like this, the Judge has an appellate court approved ability to override Jury damage verdicts. It is also well established in Minnesota that the presumed damages (from Defamation per se) cannot be higher than any actual damage (see broadly Longbehn v. Schoenrock, 727 N.W.2d 153 (Minn. Ct. App. 2007)). Reminder, Montagraph's entire damages argument rests on "let me have a looksie into your bank account, and I'll know how much I've been damaged. Other than that there are no damages I can point to".
 
It may be that due to the context of the nature of his show, and words having no meaning, that his words could be considered an opinion (see the Maddow case as a slot in). Alternatively, due to Montagraph's long standing reputation of being a pedophile (and allegedly directly movies where he lists himself as a rapist of an underage girl), he might be get away with it too, or be technically liable, but with little or no damages, including punitive ones. In cases like this, the Judge has an appellate court approved ability to override Jury damage verdicts. It is also well established in Minnesota that the presumed damages (from Defamation per se) cannot be higher than any actual damage (see broadly Longbehn v. Schoenrock, 727 N.W.2d 153 (Minn. Ct. App. 2007)). Reminder, Montagraph's entire damages argument rests on "let me have a looksie into your bank account, and I'll know how much I've been damaged. Other than that there are no damages I can point to".
Even $50k isn't going to hurt Rackets, based off the amount he's spent on Randazza. I would just appreciate the lulz from Balldoman having to take the L, even for $1 in damages.

As for defamation and these knuckleheads, it's outside my expertise. It's the common sense view, if being called a pedo isn't defamation, what is?
 
As for defamation and these knuckleheads, it's outside my expertise. It's the common sense view, if being called a pedo isn't defamation, what is?
Truth, or the reasonable belief that the accusation about a public figure is true, is an absolute defense to defamation in the US.

The dude filmed a video which, by appearance, was a snuff video of a kid, and his explanation was that his actress was a consenting adult and wasn't actually harmed in the filming. He re-enacted 2 girls 1 cup with Barbie dolls. It's entirely reasonable to think he's a pretty fucked up sexual deviant. Whether it's reasonable to make the pedo accusation or not, I dunno.

I mean sure, he's probably never actually harmed a kid, but would you trust him around one of yours?
 
I would just appreciate the lulz from Balldoman having to take the L, even for $1 in damages.
See, morally, I think Nick should lose, and pay out big. Montagraph is not someone I can describe nicely, but Nick's words were hideous and that's putting it lightly.
But, from a legal perspective, I don't really see a win for Monty. Let's ignore for a moment that he, to this day, claims he filmed a video in 2014 where he portrayed himself as raping an underage girl. Russell Greer figured out how to remove fake data from IMDB, so I'm sure Monty could have too if it was fake. Let's ignore the decades long reputation of pedophilia (whether true or not). I just don't see who was damaged. Montagraph is not a real person, nor is he tied significantly and financially to his real identity, or to a business.

If I say that Null likes sucking little boys' dicks; who got injured is obvious. Null's name is infamously tied to his real one, and with a single search you can find multiple big media orgs talking about the connection to his real identity, as well as endless amounts of blogs. If I say that Pipkin Pippa likes to kidnapp young girls and boys and enforce upon them her disturbing Japanese torture fetish, the victim is obvious. Pippa's name is not tied clearly to her real identity, but it is tied directly to her business, and through it to Phase Connect and all her coworkers, fans, and so on. We know that Pippa's family is aware of her alt identity, so there's harm there too.

But Montagraph is neither the Null case, nor the Pippa case. The "Montagraph" identity is not closely tied to him -he is a noted user of sock accounts-, it has almost no history of being tied to his real life identity (prior to 2019 nobody knew his real identity and instead speculated him to be someone called Dale Ellis Bennet), it has never made any significant monetary value (in 24 years of using it, he has not alleged that he made even a single cent from it), and there is not even an allegation that anyone he knows has ever known of the connection between Steve Quest and his "Montagraph" alt. He doesn't have a business under the name or anything like that. In none of the comments forming a basis of Montagraph's amended complaint does Nick ever say anything about Steve Quest other than saying that nobody says that Steve Quest is upstanding citizen which neither forms the basis of Monty's complaint, nor is it defamatory. Montagraph getting defamed does not transfer it to Steve unlike my previous mentioned examples. Add to the fact that Montagraph's lawyer has admitted orally to the Judge that there is no damage they can show, and the facts I asked you to ignore for the moment, and I don't see how Nick loses because I am certain Randazza only plans to sabotage until trial.

Nick should lose, but I just don't see how. Well, aside from his family possibly starving to death after Randazza cons him out for every single cent he has.
The dude filmed a video which, by appearance, was a snuff video of a kid,
He also claims to "often use[ing] [...]young children in his work[s]"
 
It may be that due to the context of the nature of his show, and words having no meaning, that his words could be considered an opinion (see the Maddow case as a slot in). Alternatively, due to Montagraph's long standing reputation of being a pedophile (and allegedly directly movies where he lists himself as a rapist of an underage girl), he might be get away with it too, or be technically liable, but with little or no damages, including punitive ones. In cases like this, the Judge has an appellate court approved ability to override Jury damage verdicts. It is also well established in Minnesota that the presumed damages (from Defamation per se) cannot be higher than any actual damage (see broadly Longbehn v. Schoenrock, 727 N.W.2d 153 (Minn. Ct. App. 2007)). Reminder, Montagraph's entire damages argument rests on "let me have a looksie into your bank account, and I'll know how much I've been damaged. Other than that there are no damages I can point to".
This is mildly hilarious given that in my lolsuit reading so far the judge seems to tend to pull 'OP is a faggot, I will now do what I want'

Get with the times old man, precedent is just a bundle of words
 
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He also claims to "often use[ing] [...]young children in his work"
I'm confused by this. The way you phrase this implies that there is either a direct quote or some admission by Steve Quest that this is true, but the link is to IMDB which doesn't cite anything or anyone specific. I checked Google, this thread, and Steve Quest's threads and I can't find him making this claim. Did Steve Quest write that line in his IMDB or is there some source I'm missing?
 
judge seems to tend to pull 'OP is a faggot, I will now do what I want'
Bro, Montagraph's lawyer went, "Judge, Ma'am, we don't have evidence of harm, but if you just let me take a looksie at Mr. Rekieta, we will find super secret Medical documents that only he has that proves that he did millions of damages to us. No, we can't visit a doctor ourselves. Also, he is trying to exterminate all Niggers", and the Judge went, "yeah, that makes sense. Please proceed good sir, I will grant your request"
Did Steve Quest write that line in his IMDB or is there some source I'm missing?
If he didn't write it, he would have it taken down, like Greer did. I mean, the man allegedly has been trying to combat his bad reputation since 2019. You email IMDB, and they take it down. That simple. Considering he didn't, I am lead to assume that he approves of the statement and has wrote it himself.
 
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You email IMDB, and they take it down. That simple.
Appreciate the clarity. I've never needed to have my IMDB altered, so that's interesting to consider from Montagraph's perspective.

I get Steve Quest isn't a saint and very well could be a sicko, but the way some of the "evidence" gets twisted against him has caused me to be very hesitant to draw immediate conclusions. When 3 of the 4 fabled lost Umbrella Man films finally found their way to Kiwi Farms and I saw their contents, it's been insane to me how a guy snarling menacingly into the camera in a lame checkered mask at an adult actress has resulted in so much nonsense.

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And the video where he doesn't even kiss the melon, but people twist it into "HE FUCKED THE MELON!"
 
so that's interesting to consider from Montagraph's perspective.
I also forgot to add that Montagraph never contested (as far as I can recall) the accuracy of the IMDB page when Nick brought it up in his motion to dismiss.
I get Steve Quest isn't a saint and very well could be a sicko, but the way some of the "evidence" gets twisted against him has caused me to be very hesitant to draw immediate conclusions
I don't believe he is a real pedophile, but the dude really fucked himself by being a shockjock a decade back. Seemingly he is still proud of that, which fair enough, but doesn't help his image.
And the video where he doesn't even kiss the melon, but people twist it into "HE FUCKED THE MELON!"
He fingerfucked it. The idea behind it was supposed to be lewd, IIRC. I think it's all just stupid, but, here we are anyway.
 
I think the more likely scenario is that Randazza is scamming Nick the same way he has scammed all of his clients and all of their opponents, and has been sanctioned for it numerous times

I wonder if Monty has had a request for a sum of money equivalent to a decent used BMW yet?

Fun fact: in one of those disputes, Randazza himself was represented by none other than Popehat himself, Ken White, whose Pope motif is probably why Rekieta himself adopted the "LawPope" monicker.

White is the Popehat. Rekieta is the Brownhatter.
 
What's mind blowing is Nick is spending all this money just so he doesn't have to apologize to Monty for saying he sucked little boy penis. Spending all this money to not admit too yourself that you were an asshole and the "joke" wasn't very funny is mind blowing to me. It's not just "his" money he's burning in this bonfire of vanity, it's his families.
 
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