Serious LGBT Discussion

[Hiccup Scream]

Men and women inherently, and fundamentally complement each other.

Divorce is a result of individual emotional and personality issues

Were this as inherent and fundamental as you say such emotional and personality issues would not appear as often, and would be superseded by this complementing traits. While I agree with you that we are biologically predisposed towards the opposite sex, the environment that we are in now is so radically different from that which pushed the development of these traits and there are less or different evolutionary pressures than there have ever been before. For the most part these traits continue to benefit us but they also act as sowing grounds for insecurities when modern society caters to inversions of nature.

The reason divorce is so common is because of the rise of no fault divorce

I would argue its moreso because the state has made there be economic advantages to being divorced/unmarried (in the lower class) which causes impressionable people to trend towards braking up families. No fault divorce wouldn't be a problem.

For much of history, love and affection were seen as of secondary importance to a relationship.

For most of history mankind had an incredibly high infant mortality rate, lived to halfish the modern human lifespan, and had no means to travel any great distance with guarantee of a return trip. For most of human history you really didnt have anything near the size of dating pool that exists now, and settling for better or worse has become a much less sought after concept.

Generally, it was expected that love in a relationship would come later. Its why arranged marriages were the norm

Like the backwater savages of hindu and islamic world in the modern day. I really shouldnt have to elaborate on why thats distasteful.

The romantic ideal of marrying for love primarily is a relatively new one.

Nearly five centuries ago Romeo and Juliet was written, the ideal is not a new concept, the opportunity to fulfill it is.

You have a well developed opinion based on very real observations that I myself have also read into and good reason to think the way you do. Men and women do complement each other at a subcontious level and there has been a great effort to hid that fact, same goes with the depth that racial heredity imposes upon psychological predispositions. But I think the prevalence of homosexuality is closer related to a lower infant mortality rate, a higher rate of mutation, and a growing number of people with chronic/inheritable illnesses, and is compounded by the states propaganda. In the same way a sick herd animal leaves the group to die alone (most likely to hide from predators in a weakened state rather then out of empathy or understanding disease spread) I think in a society with high population saturation it is not out of this world to see those with mental sickness' whom embrace homosex committing to a comparable role, in this case leaving the genepool.

 

[Poppy Brown]

I remember reading years ago a study which found (to the effect of) the more older brothers a male has, the more likely he is to be gay -
Until Googling now, I did not realise this effect was so well-known/discussed -
https://findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au...ng-same-sex-attraction-has-a-biological-basis

This theory was developed by Ray Blanchard who also coined the term autogynephilia. Blanchard is a sexologist and pedo apologist. I suspect all sexologists (even female ones) are pedos themselves, so I take their research with a grain of salt. It would behoove pedos to present being gay as a natural phenomenon rather than a predictable response to being diddled. This makes it so when CSA victims start acting out, parents and teachers will dismiss their behavior as signs they were born gay instead of the ominous warning sign it is. If there is a connection between having older brothers and homosexuality, perhaps it's because having older brothers puts you at greater risk of being diddled by them or their friends. Also, people with large families tend to be religious and sadly the Church is a common place for CSA to occur outside of the home.

 

[GunCar Gary]

At the same time though, a family with multiple gay siblings raises red-flags, such as -
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24179065/

The father's behavior toward the children and his wife was characterized by hostility, violence, and alcoholism. He was eventually murdered when the youngest child was 6 years old.

Only one other multiple homosexual sibling family has been reported in the scientific literature. ... The behavior of the parents of this family was quite similar to the behavior of the parents in this study-a hostile and violent father

the natural habitat of the homosexual. abusive father (they missed or left out the molestation part of the equation) and codependent, loser mother

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Were this as inherent and fundamental as you say such emotional and personality issues would not appear as often, and would be superseded by this complementing traits.

The inherent capability of the sexes does not mean that personal and individual incompatibilities do not exist. One does not prevent the other, unfortunately.

I would argue its moreso because the state has made there be economic advantages to being divorced/unmarried (in the lower class) which causes impressionable people to trend towards braking up families.

Well, that too. But I do believe that even if that wasn't the case, women would still be far more likely to initiate divorce than males. Hypergamy, the difference in how men and women pair bond, etc.

For most of history mankind had an incredibly high infant mortality rate, lived to halfish the modern human lifespan, and had no means to travel any great distance with guarantee of a return trip. For most of human history you really didnt have anything near the size of dating pool that exists now

While all of this is true, they were less true for the upper classes, who could afford to marry who they wanted and look far and wide for spouse, and were the ones who lived the longest because they had more comfortable lives, but they were the most likely to forego love connections and marry for other reasons.

Nearly five centuries ago Romeo and Juliet was written, the ideal is not a new concept, the opportunity to fulfill it is.

Five centuries isn't a long time within the grand scheme of human history. And that story was a tragedy, with Romeo and Juliet portrayed as foolish and immature for their young love.

But I think the prevalence of homosexuality is closer related to a lower infant mortality rate, a higher rate of mutation, and a growing number of people with chronic/inheritable illnesses, and is compounded by the states propaganda. In the same way a sick herd animal leaves the group to die alone (most likely to hide from predators in a weakened state rather then out of empathy or understanding disease spread) I think in a society with high population saturation it is not out of this world to see those with mental sickness' whom embrace homosex committing to a comparable role, in this case leaving the genepool

I think me and you fundamentally agree on this subject.

 

[Niggs Monaghan]

Came just to vent about how I'm fucking sick of every hobby I ever had being completely infiltrated by troons and their hand maidens.
EVERYTHING has been troonified and I fucking hate it and I'm sick of it.
I'm sick of every space and forum dedicated to stuff I'm into being a Troon dick sucking competition.
The world has truly gone fucking crazy.
I'm not even a straightoid but I'm also sick of performative gay shit in everything too.
I once thought I wanted "representation" once in a while but it's all so in your face and weird and degenerate. And fake and literally gay.

Edit: After reading a few pages of the thread I want to add:
Don't recommend to gay guys to "try a woman" or "knock up a woman" for God's sake. That's how you end up with aids babies and single mothers.

 

[Dasjas Watanid Tabas]

Came just to vent about how I'm fucking sick of every hobby I ever had being completely infiltrated by troons and their hand maidens.
EVERYTHING has been troonified and I fucking hate it and I'm sick of it.
I'm sick of every space and forum dedicated to stuff I'm into being a Troon dick sucking competition.
The world has truly gone fucking crazy.

What if people troon out because they get infected with a virus/parasite of sorts and then spread it around? Literally cognitohazard shit.

I'm not even a straightoid but I'm also sick of performative gay shit in everything too.
I once thought I wanted "representation" once in a while but it's all so in your face and weird and degenerate. And fake and literally gay.

Most of LGBTwhatever representation is "token gay friend/UwU smolbean pet of girls" type of representation and it's only shown in Western countries and countries that lean towards the West, China, Russia, Hindustan, Middle East and Africa barely see it.

 

[Ass to Ass]

What if people troon out because they get infected with a virus/parasite of sorts and then spread it around? Literally cognitohazard shit.

I don't know about that, but I've read that fags and troons are statistically more likely to be autistic. Combine that with the "vaccines cause autism" theory and you get something similar to contagious degeneracy.

How the fuck can two men or two women have a "serious relationship"? Man and woman compliment each other, on the other hand same sex couples are by nature sterile and one dimensional, there is no serious relationship to be had. Promiscuity is the logical conclusion of this "lifestyle", anything else is just delusional.

Lesbians have higher rates of domestic abuse than normal folks do.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I don't know about that, but I've read that fags and troons are statistically more likely to be autistic.

Or maybe it's just that they don't grasp certain nuances as readily as neurotypicals, are less likely to understand what is so self-defeating about wasting your fertility on the same sex or on LARPing as the opposite sex, and are much more susceptible into being groomed into such lifestyles.

Maybe if LGBTQP wasn't so widely accepted in society, fags and troons wouldn't be so over-represented amongst autistic people.

 

[Picnic_Boy]

Came just to vent about how I'm fucking sick of every hobby I ever had being completely infiltrated by troons and their hand maidens.
EVERYTHING has been troonified and I fucking hate it and I'm sick of it.
I'm sick of every space and forum dedicated to stuff I'm into being a Troon dick sucking competition.
The world has truly gone fucking crazy.
I'm not even a straightoid but I'm also sick of performative gay shit in everything too.

If we don't constantly remind troons of their immense personal heroism, they'll kill themselves. It's a code that all heroes live by.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

I've been extremely critical of the LGBT community for a long time. I do remember it used to be about accepting homosexuals which to me is fine (so long as they don't act like a savage degenerate faggot) but has morphed into a child grooming political correctness cult so it's no wonder why many people in the gay community openly call out LGBT communities as they feel it makes them look bad. As a bisexual, I never wanted to see a LGBT flag shoved into my face. I see no reason as to have a flag based on someone's sexuality. It's not a country or a region whatsoever. If anything it feels like Sodom and Gomorrah has been taking over and planting flags. However, I do agree nobody can change someone's sexuality. It just comes naturally.

 

[Wii U]

I'm going to be honest. I kind of don't like being gay. It seems like "gay culture" is about drag, open relationships, and hooking up and shit and I'm not really into that. I feel like a minority within a minority for actually wanting to be monogamous. I'm just tired of it all.

 

[Back To School]

I figured I’d post this thread in hopes to get some insight from other fellow faggots given that I’ve been going through a pretty severe identity crisis lately.

I just realized that I kind of hate being gay and wish I could just purge it out of me and be normal. I can’t say this type of shit outside of a site like this but I absolutely do not consider it normal and have opened my eyes recently to the fact that my homosexuality did not stem from me being “bOrN tHIs wAY” like the reverse of those who are just naturally heterosexual, but most likely developed from my exposure to pornography and gay media at a very young age, as well as instances with SA as a child. I do consider it akin to a paraphilic psychological condition and don’t even believe in the “Well, if animals do it…” shit anymore given that we know animals only engage in homosexuality to assert dominance and they’re also the same species to cannibalize each other - not a good look.

Also, I’ve been doing a lot of thinking about how my sister, who is only slightly older than me, is a dyke who was also heavily into LGBT shit (ex: Glee, Will and Grace, she was a frequent Tumblr user etc.) at a young age as well. I don’t believe that it’s “something in the water” or the idea of parents having two gay kids just happens naturally - the outside environmental factors definitely affected and shaped our sexualities way more than any biological factor (which I do believe to exist) could’ve. People often tell me why I’m so hung up over the idea that my parents both have gay kids given that they accept both my sister and I and it’s because deep down I know they’re wearing a fake smile. They’ve never seen me bring a guy home or with a boyfriend so it’s not like the reality that they have two gay kids has necessarily hit them yet, but if I were to bring a guy home like my sister has done with her girlfriend, I know they’d secretly feel some sorta way (can’t blame em tho) and other people would (rightfully) look at my parents and question where they went wrong given that both of their kids are faggots.

In regards to me being a homosexual, I’m quite honestly just debating on identifying as a non-practicing one and living the rest of my life in celibacy, even if that entails me being forever alone - but so be it. I’m not 100% against the idea of having a happy relationship with a guy, but I’m very much not a sexual person given that I think anal is fucking degenerate and have never been down for it (100% agree with the anti-gay’s sentiments in this thread about how gross it is), I highkey hate giving head and don’t get how fags or women do it, and I also just have a boatload of sexual trauma from facing various accounts of sexual abuse that makes sex an intimidating thing for me. I also generally don’t trust most gay men. I have a few gay friends that I’m happy to have in my life, but the majority of gay men I’ve come across irl are catty, bitchy, and not into the idea of a relationship that doesn’t come with the caveat of them being allowed to fuck whoever they want before coming home to me. I’m just truly not down for that. I also generally just can’t stand gay culture and the whole partying circuit drug and alcohol obsessed shit. I was very much a big player in that scene for a few years but recently toned it down and now am even questioning stepping foot in a gay male space again given that I don’t even like being gay anymore lol.

I honestly wish shit like conversion therapy worked given that while I still wouldn’t have a lot of success as a straight man, at least I would be normal. Living with this shit makes me wish I was just gone.

 

[Fougaro]

Reminder that the ancients were right and that we fucked up by treating sexuality an identity rather than an act.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

I figured I’d post this thread in hopes to get some insight from other fellow faggots given that I’ve been going through a pretty severe identity crisis lately.

I just realized that I kind of hate being gay and wish I could just purge it out of me and be normal. I can’t say this type of shit outside of a site like this but I absolutely do not consider it normal and have opened my eyes recently to the fact that my homosexuality did not stem from me being “bOrN tHIs wAY” like the reverse of those who are just naturally heterosexual, but most likely developed from my exposure to pornography and gay media at a very young age, as well as instances with SA as a child. I do consider it akin to a paraphilic psychological condition and don’t even believe in the “Well, if animals do it…” shit anymore given that we know animals only engage in homosexuality to assert dominance and they’re also the same species to cannibalize each other - not a good look.

I've been in a similar spot as of late. Although there are still days where being a fag feels like the most awesome thing in the world and I wouldn't change it for anything, they're becoming fewer and further between as I gradually mature into an adult person with adult responsibilities. I'd like to someday start a family (to some degree I feel it's my duty), but I wouldn't wish a motherless upbringing on any child, for obvious reasons. More generally, I'm just not optimistic about my life outcomes as a whole.

To distract myself, I've stopped pursuing romantic relationships and tried to focus on other things; still, no matter how hard I try to fill that void with my studies or hobbies or friends, I still desperately crave intimacy with someone, even when I'm not exactly sure who. Sometimes I feel as if I could "fix" myself, if only I wanted it just a little more. Sometimes I feel as if I could try being with a girl, but I know deep down that I'll just end up leading her on. At some point I'm going to have to come to terms with the fact that my best outcome is probably settling down in a monogamous relationship with another guy and never having kids.

I agree that it's like a psychological disorder. It's hard to not feel a little defective -- in my case, I've felt genuine attraction towards maybe five people in my entire life, and I'm totally ambivalent towards sex for the most part. All this makes me wonder if I'm somehow missing out on some crucial element of the human experience, or if something happened to me as a kid to screw me up forever. I'd sacrifice a lot to just be straight.

 

[ZsaZsaBinks]

I don’t believe in bisexuality. It’s either straight people calling themselves bi to have an intersectional identity, or gay people using the label as a stepping stone to coming out as gay.

 

[Back To School]

I wish conversion therapy was actually effective. I doubt anyone could ever change my homosexual thoughts to heterosexual thoughts but I would do anything to make homosexual thoughts and urges go away. I’ve been feeling mildly suicidal recently knowing that I never signed up for being this way and instead it was the result of upbringing/porn/media/molestation. Even just seeing all this pride month shit is making me depressed knowing I used to take so much pride in my sexual identity and now I view it like a curse. I don’t want to be gay anymore I just want to be normal.

 

[Napoleon III]

I wish conversion therapy was actually effective. I doubt anyone could ever change my homosexual thoughts to heterosexual thoughts but I would do anything to make homosexual thoughts and urges go away. I’ve been feeling mildly suicidal recently knowing that I never signed up for being this way and instead it was the result of upbringing/porn/media/molestation. Even just seeing all this pride month shit is making me depressed knowing I used to take so much pride in my sexual identity and now I view it like a curse. I don’t want to be gay anymore I just want to be normal.

There are thoughts that Estrogen levels are a bit too high in certain men and it causes such things.

Some day somebody might figure things out. I thought of using something like Exemestane to treat Porn addiction though it has problems as it can have too many negative side effects. Though it does work just side effects are too bad. Perhaps something similar can be done for homosexual men.

Of course stuff like this is not exactly welcomed in the medical community atm. But that may change some day.

The point of all of this is that you should hold out hope. How things are now it is not how they will be forever.

 

[Back To School]

There are thoughts that Estrogen levels are a bit too high in certain men and it causes such things.

Some day somebody might figure things out. I thought of using something like Exemestane to treat Porn addiction though it has problems as it can have too many negative side effects. Though it does work just side effects are too bad. Perhaps something similar can be done for homosexual men.

Of course stuff like this is not exactly welcomed in the medical community atm. But that may change some day.

The point of all of this is that you should hold out hope. How things are now it is not how they will be forever.

I appreciate it, but I really doubt there’s a fix to this. I’ll just have to live with it forever and I guess that means a life of celibacy considering I don’t wanna put a woman through a sham marriage.

 

[Picnic_Boy]

to take so much pride in my sexual identity

It might not feel like it right now, but you're a lot cooler and more interesting now than you were then. Being cool doesn't make the hurt go away though, I suppose.

 

[Ted's Moustache]

It was way easier to be accepting of queers before a whole generation got brainwashed by faggotry. The amount of zoomers that self-identify as LGBT is horrific. Women are being brainwashed with male-hatred to be convinced of no other option than to become smug, nihilistic whores and fuck other women. Degenerate male-fags have always existed, but the boom of girl-fags will tarnish an entire generation of women before they have to opportunity to realize they aren't actually gay. Trying to find a modern woman that identifies as straight and has never had any sexual contact with another woman is becoming like finding a needle in a haystack.