Serious LGBT Discussion

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

It's also possible that the act of Onan wasting his semen is what enraged God so much, and AFAIK that was the common interpretation for centuries.

It may have been a common interpretation, but it was wrong. The Bible makes it clear that it was Onan attempting to duplicitously take his brother's stuff by shirking his familial duties that ticked God off.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

Alright thanks everyone, I ended up just telling her upfront and she seemed to take it well enough, hope she doesn't think I said I was a fag as an excuse to not date her or anything lol!! I do feel a little bad for her, 'cause she's a nice girl who deserves a worthy partner, but what can you do I guess. This is the second time this has happened, which tells me I should maybe either be a little more open about these things (as much as I despise being the Token Gay Guy) OR get a boyfriend (not likely). Anyway. Hope the rest of you had a fun Valentine's.

 

[DavidS877]

Alright thanks everyone, I ended up just telling her upfront and she seemed to take it well enough, hope she doesn't think I said I was a fag as an excuse to not date her or anything lol!! I do feel a little bad for her, 'cause she's a nice girl who deserves a worthy partner, but what can you do I guess. This is the second time this has happened, which tells me I should maybe either be a little more open about these things (as much as I despise being the Token Gay Guy) OR get a boyfriend (not likely). Anyway. Hope the rest of you had a fun Valentine's.

Presumably you're just gay enough that you dress well and are put together but yet not gay enough that women immediately go "Gay!".
You could either go full gay or get less well dressed so that women wouldn't want to date you even if you were straight.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

How do I gently inform her that I'm... not exactly down with the ladies

Man up and breed her.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

Presumably you're just gay enough that you dress well and are put together but yet not gay enough that women immediately go "Gay!".
You could either go full gay or get less well dressed so that women wouldn't want to date you even if you were straight.

That's probably an accurate summation. I'm no Yves Saint Laurent, but I put considerable effort into choosing outfits and such. On one hand, I do want to look attractive. Going out dressed like the typical unkempt straight guy would be far too great of a blow for my ego to weather, so I suppose I just have to fag it up more, so to speak. On the other hand, I don't want to lean into it too much, because I find ultra fruity types kind of insufferable (as do most people) and absolutely don't want to make that impression on others. It's a fine line to walk, essentially. I'll figure it out somehow.

 

[Kung Pow]

From what I've been reading about LGBT+ and their life stories, a bunch of them recall something from their childhood that confirms their current identity in a confirmation bias sort of way, like "guuh, I watch bambi", "my mommy told me it was ichy to wear women's clothes" or other situations along those lines and not just kids being kids. I think they are confusing their addictive impulse to act in a degenerate way with some kind of inevitability, be it genetic, soul-related, or whatever the fuck they believe. When in reality, they created this impulse, this vice by themselves, which could not have happened if they hadn't engaged in those degenerate behaviors. They made this mental construct, this bad habit, and they think that it is some kind of instinct that they cannot control or just that they don't want to control, that they have always been this way, and then they turn this addiction parasite into their identity. But that is more a porn/sex addict kind of side of the LGBT+, maybe there are those that aren't addicts, but they look like a really small minority.

It is like an alcoholic deluding himself into thinking that he was always an alcoholic because he really liked Barney from the Simpsons when he was a child and not because he drank excessively.

 

[Catler]

From what I've been reading about LGBT+ and their life stories, a bunch of them recall something from their childhood that confirms their current identity in a confirmation bias sort of way, like "guuh, I watch bambi", "my mommy told me it was ichy to wear women's clothes" or other situations along those lines and not just kids being kids. I think they are confusing their addictive impulse to act in a degenerate way with some kind of inevitability, be it genetic, soul-related, or whatever the fuck they believe. When in reality, they created this impulse, this vice by themselves, which could not have happened if they hadn't engaged in those degenerate behaviors. They made this mental construct, this bad habit, and they think that it is some kind of instinct that they cannot control or just that they don't want to control, that they have always been this way, and then they turn this addiction parasite into their identity. But that is more a porn/sex addict kind of side of the LGBT+, maybe there are those that aren't addicts, but they look like a really small minority.

It is like an alcoholic deluding himself into thinking that he was always an alcoholic because he really liked Barney from the Simpsons when he was a child and not because he drank excessively.

Some gay people spend way too much time thinking about their sexuality and second guessing it, which isn't surprising when we often get told our whole lives it's wrong and we're broken. Some try to look for proof they were gay the whole time, but straight people don't do this, they just start finding themselves attracted to others and they're never forced to question it because they're accepted by everyone implicitly.

I can't pinpoint anything I did as a child anyone would consider particularly gay, but I do remember when I started being interested in other guys...which fuelled years of self-hatred and denial that none of my straight peers had to deal with.

Someone isn't going to have gay sex unless they're attracted to the same sex, outside of some unfortunate exceptions that mostly apply to adults. No straight male teenager is waking up and thinking "I'd really like to kiss that guy/hold his hand/suck his dick" unless he has some level of attraction to men.

Anyone can pick up a bottle and became an alcoholic, no one can just pick who they're attracted to.

 

[melty]

It may have been a common interpretation, but it was wrong. The Bible makes it clear that it was Onan attempting to duplicitously take his brother's stuff by shirking his familial duties that ticked God off.

Maybe God was punishing Onan for being a coomer and fucking his brothers wife

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Maybe God was punishing Onan for being a coomer and fucking his brothers wife

This was literally part of Hebrew law. Onan had a familial duty to marry and sire a child by his brother's wife so that she would have an heir.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

Some gay people spend way too much time thinking about their sexuality and second guessing it, which isn't surprising when we often get told our whole lives it's wrong and we're broken. Some try to look for proof they were gay the whole time, but straight people don't do this, they just start finding themselves attracted to others and they're never forced to question it because they're accepted by everyone implicitly.

I agree with your point that gay people second guess themselves because of society but I thought I was bi or lesbian for years.

 

[Banditotron]

From what I've been reading about LGBT+ and their life stories, a bunch of them recall something from their childhood that confirms their current identity in a confirmation bias sort of way, like "guuh, I watch bambi", "my mommy told me it was ichy to wear women's clothes" or other situations along those lines and not just kids being kids. I think they are confusing their addictive impulse to act in a degenerate way with some kind of inevitability, be it genetic, soul-related, or whatever the fuck they believe. When in reality, they created this impulse, this vice by themselves, which could not have happened if they hadn't engaged in those degenerate behaviors. They made this mental construct, this bad habit, and they think that it is some kind of instinct that they cannot control or just that they don't want to control, that they have always been this way, and then they turn this addiction parasite into their identity. But that is more a porn/sex addict kind of side of the LGBT+, maybe there are those that aren't addicts, but they look like a really small minority.

It is like an alcoholic deluding himself into thinking that he was always an alcoholic because he really liked Barney from the Simpsons when he was a child and not because he drank excessively.

I agree that people look for "explanations" or "signs" too much. I was perfectly normal growing up, but then I hit the age where I started noticing attractive people, and to my shock I was noticing attractive people regardless of which sex they were. Hell, as a child, I only ever had puppy love crushes on girls, so it was surprising to myself in my teen years that I was feeling attraction to both sexes.

 

[Mesh Gear Fox]

I agree that people look for "explanations" or "signs" too much. I was perfectly normal growing up,

Another thing that drives me nuts is saying that we must have been sexually abused to turn out gay. I had the average American Gen X middle class upbringing. Two parents, no abuse. I just like dudes, not women.

 

[Whatevermancer]

Another thing that drives me nuts is saying that we must have been sexually abused to turn out gay. I had the average American Gen X middle class upbringing. Two parents, no abuse. I just like dudes, not women.

Do you really think the people that claim that gay men molest children will believe you?

 

[Claus]

I agree that people look for "explanations" or "signs" too much. I was perfectly normal growing up, but then I hit the age where I started noticing attractive people, and to my shock I was noticing attractive people regardless of which sex they were. Hell, as a child, I only ever had puppy love crushes on girls, so it was surprising to myself in my teen years that I was feeling attraction to both sexes.

Yeah this is exactly the same experience I went through when I was in my tweens and early teens and I realized I was attracted to both sexes. I had a fairly normal upbringing as well, with a stable two parent mother and father household. I wasn't abused at all and I wasn't exposed to porn at a very early age. It was very shocking and confusing at first and it caused me a lot of distress throughout middle school until in final came to terms with it in high school. I tend to prefer chicks but I have an easier time hitting it off with guys. I've never hung out in the LGBT community and have no desire to, since it's a cesspool of drug use, rampant promiscuity and grooming. I do think that most girls who claim they are bi are just doing for attention and because straight people are oppressors or whatever. I can't stand those cunts anyway.

Another thing that drives me nuts is saying that we must have been sexually abused to turn out gay. I had the average American Gen X middle class upbringing. Two parents, no abuse. I just like dudes, not women.

Yeah that's always annoying. While it is true that data for cases of child molestation disproportionately show cases of same sex abuse, what people who say that tend to omit is that psychiatric studies on pedophiles that abuse boys tend to show that most of them either have a heterosexual or mostly heterosexual orientation or lack attraction to adults entirely. This isn't to say that homosexual males that are attracted to adults aren't overrepresented in these cases, but it's grossly exaggerated by people who push the narrative that all homosexuals were abused and abuse kids to spread there homosexuality. Unfortunately most gays and bisexual men tend to live very destructive lifestyles with drugs and tons of different partners which is very sad to see. I'm pretty much straight edge other than the occasional drink on a special occasion and I wouldn't have sex with anyone outside of a serious relationship, be they a man or a woman.

 

[RybenZ999]

just the fact that everyone remembers Freddie Mercury as a gay man is as kinda insane to me. I see a lot of people go far as saying 'yeah Freddie had relationships with women but he was gay because everyone says so, and lots of gay dudes are with women sometimes'

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it's an insulting level of denial some people fall into when it comes to this

Feels like a weird alternate version of the way things were in my childhood. Back when I was a kid, people used to be in denial about someone being gay, usually going "he's just confused". Now it's the opposite. So absurd.

 

[GunCar Gary]

Another thing that drives me nuts is saying that we must have been sexually abused to turn out gay. I had the average American Gen X middle class upbringing. Two parents, no abuse. I just like dudes, not women.

i think it’s unfair to say it’s 100% that gay kids were molested, because nothing is ever actually 100%. i would say it is like 40% or a little higher though

 

[Doktor Grimm]

i think it’s unfair to say it’s 100% that gay kids were molested, because nothing is ever actually 100%. i would say it is like 40% or a little higher though

Gay people are definitely more likely to have been diddled, and it's very plausible that that sort of abuse early on can screw with someone's sexuality down the line. I don't think homosexuality is "fixable" though, even if it comes from environmental factors.

 

[GunCar Gary]

Gay people are definitely more likely to have been diddled, and it's very plausible that that sort of abuse early on can screw with someone's sexuality down the line. I don't think homosexuality is "fixable" though, even if it comes from environmental factors.

i agree. i don't believe there's any way to change someone's sexuality after it has locked in, whether it was influenced by nature, nurture, or a mix of both. like most things in life you just kind of have to deal with what you got

 

[Seventh Star]

This thread has only grown more faggy than the last time I came by and not in an ironic or good way.

 

[Fruttasecca]

I wouldn't have sex with anyone outside of a serious relationship

How the fuck can two men or two women have a "serious relationship"? Man and woman compliment each other, on the other hand same sex couples are by nature sterile and one dimensional, there is no serious relationship to be had. Promiscuity is the logical conclusion of this "lifestyle", anything else is just delusional.
I always think its funny when faggots want to claim the moral high ground by insisting they are after "real" "relationships" not realizing how deluded it is, that was Catlers whole skit too and look what happened.
And if boys get molested you can bet money its some "married" faggots or some middle aged weirdo living with his boytoy perpetrating it, all in all I would say the coke sniffing faggots who take three different dicks a night are less perverse than the skinwalkers living in their delusional mock "relationships"

You wanna get serious? Put a baby in a womans womb lol