Fallout series

[NPZCC]

I mentioned that perks are mainly just stat boosters in Fallout 4 with some exceptions, hardly any actually affect the ROLEPLAYING aspect of the game. Fallout NV you had perks for seduction, terrifying presence, cannibal, etc etc.

You list off some random perks that you say are great for roleplaying in NV, but you don't give any examples of you using them to roleplay.

What's one of your favorite (female...?) NPCs to use the seduction perk on in NV? Why?

Why did you list "cannibal" when that's also a perk in FO4, don't you think you should pick a different one?

While you play, you can be a bit of an asshole but you don't have many opportunities to be a straight up asshole or sadistic compared to F:NV or FO3.

Why not list your favorite moments to be sadistic in FNV and FO3 instead of talking about those moments vaguely? List some of your favorite sadistic moments in NV or FO3 and list some of the moments in FO4 that you wish you could be more sadistic.

Graphics are only the icing on the cake. The animations, textures, and models look worse sure (you're also comparing an older game), but they're serviceable. If having nicer textures and animations make a game better in your opinion, then there is something wrong with you.

Not sure where any of this is coming from, I said the guns in all of the games look like shit, which is true. Seems more like you're the one who cares about textures/animations/meshes.

it's impressive they churned out what they did despite not even having two years of development time on an engine they knew nothing about starting. But I would also argue that they were too ambitious and tried to shove as much stuff in as possible despite being limited on time. Game is notorious for how much content had to be cut, including Legion stuff which is a damn shame. Imagine if they were given a few more years of development time?

You seem too attached to the game's development cycle and are using it as some kind of defense mechanism. Why?

>perks are better overall
>ammo types
>no level scaling
>more weapon variety
>well written (for the most part)
>a level cap
>traits (this can change how you play)

Shouldn't you describe how something like "ammo types" really mixes up the gameplay?

Name some of your favorite ammo types and your most memorable moments using them.

don't think it should of been in the game in the first place. It doesn't really add anything, it's just bloat.

Did you try roleplaying as a character who likes building things?

Does building things for settlements, or being able to build a home base that you come back to to display all of the weapons/items/armor that you've scavenged in the wasteland, not count as roleplaying?

 

[Big Brown Schlub]

some absolute fucking retard called paradox based for portraying that sick fuck elagabalus as a woman in one of the ck games
i will never forget it because that was the exact opposite of based: cucked

Has to be Cuckold Kings 3 because I just checked in 2 and he's male there.

 

[Mysterious Autist XX]

Honest Hearts has to be defended? Why?

It is like 90% fetch quests if you don't fuck up and trigger Chaos in Zion, that's what most people dislike. Personally I love the lore you can get from exploring like the Survivalist's storyline and Joshua Graham is in my honest opinion one of the best characters to come from Western media in general.

Nowhere have I ever said I disliked New Vegas. I just see it for what it actually is.

I wouldn’t say the things I say if I was wrong and also if New Vegas Fanboys didn’t act like they’re the one true sole fans of Fallout when it’s one of only 3 Fallout games they’ve played.
Most all of the major subhuman NV fanboys like Schizo Elijah (Rot in Piss dickbag) and Creetosis (Hopefully next) played Fallout 3 first.

They all claim to be these huge fallout fans who are trying to “save” a franchise that had less direction than a compass with no needle. Almost none of these Goobers have played the original games and if they did, it’s because of New Vegas and they played New Vegas because of Fallout 3.
Most people who played the original 2 games say 3 was a godsend.

Hell, even the devs of the original games say Bethesda did an amazing job with the franchise and the New Vegas people thanked Bethesda immensely for helping them any time they needed it with New Vegas. How many times does this “Bethesda hates Fallout” thing need to be debunked by your beloved non Bethesda Fallout devs before you’ll let it go?

I dunno you sound like someone pretending to be a Bethesdaslop drone for laughs which I can respect doing it for your own amusement.

Again NV fanboys are fucking annoying like all super fans are, I say this as someone who considers NV one of his top ten favorite games of all time. It's the epitome of a flawed masterpiece imo, the sum of its parts more than outweigh its issues.

Personally as someone who has played everything besides 76 3 is my least favorite overall, I will say its a game I am glad exists if not for reviving the franchise but at its core its less fun than 4 for me, which I have talked about my feelings on multiple times in this thread, and has weaker writing than the original games and NV. Well that and the portrayal of DC really irks me as someone who spent a lot of time in that area so the missing districts and whatnot just trigger my OCD and autism, also the lack of true iron sights hurts it for me. Where 4 falls is as an RPG which is part of what makes NV so enjoyable, the freedom of choice and variety. Even in Lonesome Road you can outright refuse the canon backstory Ulysses tries to force onto you and stick with your original headcanon for your Courier's backstory if you wanted and I appreciate that. But do you also have a single source to back that claim up as I have never seen anyone say that, almost every hardcore 1/2 fan I have seen LOATHES 3 onwards and only makes an exception for NV because of how Obsidian was formed by old Black Isle Illumni who worked on 1 and 2.

Yet they regularly talked about how Bethesda also kept constantly sabotaging them such as when they renigged on the QA agreement.

A slave obeys.

Anyone who doesn't use Nephi's Golf Driver for that challenge is a faggot, though. Go big or go home.

100% agreed my sneky friend.

One of the few sane statements made on this thread.

Now quit shitting up the thread, you're making me miss Lord Imperator and that dude was just as massive a sperg.

EDIT: God damn it there are more retards now, this is why I hate when new Fallout shit gets released.

 

[Mister Uno]

you don't give any examples of you using them to roleplay.

Listen, I already made my case. Don't think I need to point out to all my exact favorite moments and examples. Just look it up on YouTube if you don't care about spoilers. Not going to remember every instance of moments I've enjoyed, especially when its been awhile since I last played. Cannibal didn't really have a RP use in Fallout 4 and was used only a few times in New Vegas. Lady Killer, Black Widow, and the gay equivalents however opened up quite a bit of opportunities for you that normally wouldn't be available. I don't remember Fallout 4 having many instances of these. Again, some of the RP perks are better than others.

Shouldn't you describe how something like "ammo types" really mixes up the gameplay?

Ammo types can make certain fights easier depending on the target.

You seem too attached to the game's development cycle and are using it as some kind of defense mechanism. Why?

Because Obsidian got fucked over hard and the story of it is incredibly interesting. There is a cut content series by TriangleCity that I use to watch a few years ago and it's a fun rabbit hole to go down. I will say again that Obsidian was way too ambitious for the situation they were in but still its neat. Shit load of cut content.

Does building things for settlements, or being able to build a home base that you come back to to display all of the weapons/items/armor that you've scavenged in the wasteland, not count as roleplaying?

No not really. You can have optional safe houses without forcing settlements. What if my character has no interest in making settlements and doesn't care for the Minuteman? Again you're forced to side with them which is the opposite of roleplaying. You're railroaded.
(Also the fact that the east coast is still beyond fucked as if the bombs dropped a decade ago is another gripe I have).

 

[God of Nothing]

You guys are telling me you don't kill House with Nephi's?
The bounty quest is pretty easy and gives a decent amount of caps.

 

[Mysterious Autist XX]

You guys are telling me you don't kill House with Nephi's?
The bounty quest is pretty easy and gives a decent amount of caps.

It depends on my mood honestly, if I do kill him I do use it though.

 

[Lone Wandering Courier]

Personally I tend to forget about the Fiends (though not as much as I tend to forget about Vault 19)

 

[NPZCC]

Listen, I already made my case.

You didn't really, that was my point. You can name somewhat specific things wrong with FO4, but when I ask you to name some cool moments, mechanics, characters, dialog from FONV, you just say vague things.

Ammo types can make certain fights easier depending on the target.

More vague stuff instead of specifics.

What if my character has no interest in making settlements and doesn't care for the Minuteman? Again you're forced to side with them which is the opposite of roleplaying. You're railroaded.

Not sure why you think this, both are optional.

At this point I'm not sure you've even played New Vegas. It's a decent game, you should try it out some day.

 

[TVB]

Theirs Also nothing wrong with being introduced to series with 3. Fallout 3 was an alright game.

Imagine getting into a franchise that has died long ago where its first two games in the main series and two games in its spinoff series (Brotherhood and NV) are the only good modern games. 3 may be alright, but that's not an excuse as to how it was revived in a very unfinished slate and would, from that point forward, be the reasons why Todd Howard and his Bethesda crew are incompetent with whatever they're doing

 

[Mister Uno]

You didn't really, that was my point. You can name specific things wrong with FO4, but when I ask you to name some cool moments, mechanics, characters, dialog from FONV, you just say vague things.

At this point I'm not sure you've even played New Vegas. It's a decent game, you should try it out some day.

>you cant remember very specific things from a game you haven't played in awhile?
>lmao gotcha
Fuck off. Come off as a Redditor. Don't even know why I bothered.

 

[NPZCC]

Fuck off. Come off as a Redditor. Don't even know why I bothered.

Me asking you some of your favorite parts in a game you have 800 hours in is me coming off as a redditor?

Amazing.

I'm sorry I tried to get you to talk more about a game you like so much you can barely remember it.

 

[The Count of Monte Cristo]

with the amount of people that ended up watching this entire series all the way through despite the fact it was obviously shit and gay.

Yeah, with how many people hate watch shit despite knowing in advance it will be full of the most gay, deprived things possible proves these people arent based.

 

[CyrusHowler]

suddenly I cant see them in the same light again because all their "based" talk will just seem baseless

Imagine questioning your friendship with someone and their entire morale belief system because they like a fucking TV show.
New Vegas fanboys have absolutely gone off the deepend.
Euthanasia time IMO.

You just have awful tastes and a sperg on top of that.

Because I like one specific video game that you don’t like more than one specific video game that you do like.
Lemme grab your paint and broad brush for you.

No offense but you have subhuman garbage takes

I’d rather have subhuman garbage takes than BE subhuman garbage.

There’s also nothing wrong with being introduced to series with 3. Fallout 3 was an alright game.

Where did I say that there was an issue…

Personally I love the lore you can get from exploring like the Survivalist's storyline and Joshua Graham

Yeah that’s what makes it top tier. It’s just plain old good engaging storytelling. Not self fart sniffing pseudo-political crap from fags in Commiefornia.

I dunno you sound like someone pretending to be a Bethesdaslop drone for laughs which I can respect doing it for your own amusement.

I like every fallout game I’ve played for different reasons. There are things I like about all of them and things I dislike about all of them.

Again NV fanboys are fucking annoying like all super fans are

Nah, New Vegas fanboys are a special kind of annoying.

the freedom of choice and variety

Sure pal.

Courier's

Mailman.

Now quit shitting up the thread

When New Vegas fanboys stop being how they are, I will stop laughing and dunking on them.

Fuck off. Come off as a Redditor. Don't even know why I bothered.

What a fucking loser. 800 hour of your life looking at brown shit smear slop.

Me asking you some of your favorite parts in a game you have 800 hours in is me coming off as a redditor?

Amazing.

I'm sorry I tried to get you to talk more about a game you like so much you can barely remember it.

I wouldn’t try to have an intelligent conversation with that one or most of the slobs here. They’ll just call you a Redditor if you don’t have exactly the same opinions as them. Very leftist like if you ask me.

Yeah, with how many people hate watch shit despite knowing in advance it will be full of the most gay, deprived things possible proves these people aren't based.

The dilemma of knowing something is gonna be shit but watching it anyway so you can talk about how bad it is without the
“X looks like dog shit.”
“ Have you watched it?”
“No.”
“ wElL hOw Do YoU kNoW iF yOu HaVeN’t SeEn It?!?!”
thing happening.

That was me with the Star Wars sequels. Saw each of them one time, in the theater, that’s it.

 

[The Last Stand]

Fallout NV you had perks for seduction, terrifying presence, cannibal, etc etc.

Could I be a bisexual in Fallout: NV or do they not have dating?

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

Could I be a bisexual in Fallout: NV or do they not have dating?

yes and yes.

 

[Mister Uno]

Could I be a bisexual in Fallout: NV or do they not have dating?

Yes but actually dating your companions isn't a thing. The closest you get is Cass. During one of the ending slides for when you side with the NCR, she kicks the door down that was suppose to be your room to celebrate, but instead of you she just finds some random NCR soldier and sleeps with him instead. Only happens if you're male though.
Veronica is a lesbian but is the worst companion and probably one of the few instances of a poorly written character. Think you can flirt but she doesn't accept your advances. Don't quote me on that.
Funnily enough you can also flirt with Arcade as a women despite him being gay. I'm sure you can imagine how that turns out.

Edit: To add, being bisexual is actually pretty beneficial gameplay wise since you get a flat 10℅ increase in damage against both sexes.

 

[Übertroon]

During one of the ending slides for when you side with the NCR, she kicks the door down that was suppose to be your room to celebrate, but instead of you she just finds some random NCR soldier and sleeps with him instead.

Bravo Chris Avallone. A true cuck moment

 

[Mola Ram]

Imagine questioning your friendship with someone and their entire morale belief system because they like a fucking TV show.

The autism on this thread has been absolutely off the charts since the show dropped, and Cyrus is either a chucklehead or a very bad troll, but this is spot on. If a buddy likes some show you don't, slops or not, you're an absolute dipshit if you let that affect your friendship. It's the kind of shit Disney fans pull.

 

[Evil Peter Griffin]

Bravo Chris Avallone. A true cuck moment

How is that a cuck moment? She gets drunk and goes to the wrong room and fucks someone else.

 

[Übertroon]

How is that a cuck moment? She gets drunk and goes to the wrong room and fucks someone else.

Any man who writes "She wanted to fuck you, but you weren't there so she found another dick to ride" is barely disguising their fetish