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[Xarpho's Return]

Another success story for the Gym of Life:

Being a manlet must be suffering constantly, looking like a special-ed middle schooler is on a whole different level.

Dude must be constantly angry at everything, all the time.

EDIT: Didn't realize it was a pooner, which accounts for being ugly and short.

 

[indomitable snowman]

This whole thread kind of illustrates a very basic problem with these people: they are incapable of understanding that a bad outcome can come from a "good" action

That Which is Seen, and That Which is Not Seen,
Socialists are nothing new, that was written in the 1850s

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Fat Pooner is short and jelly at the sick blue truck. I did a very (very) rough calculation on her height.
License plates are 6 inches tall. The front one is about 115 pixels tall. I estimated her height to be about 1200 pixels tall. This was about 63 inches or 5'3''

 

[gagabobo1997]

if a car is gonna hit me at high speeds id rather it instakill me like a large truck would rather than destroy my legs and lower torso and leave me to slowly die on the pavement

 

[F-14 Tomcat]

I hear this a lot, but that doesn't explain the explosion of American style SUVs in the UK. As far as I know, we don't have a similar law, and actually tax 4x4s. They are never used for work, and are instead driven by karens and boomers.

Small vehicles and large vehicles are attractive to different types of people for different reasons. The issue is emissions and safety regulations kill small vehicles in the US.

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That's gotta be a pooner, right?

 

[Skeletonized Cow]

That Which is Seen, and That Which is Not Seen,
Socialists are nothing new, that was written in the 1850s


Fat Pooner is short and jelly at the sick blue truck. I did a very (very) rough calculation on her height.
License plates are 6 inches tall. The front one is about 115 pixels tall. I estimated her height to be about 1200 pixels tall. This was about 63 inches or 5'3''

I found a recording of the pooner on youtube dot com.

 

[TheBearMan]

I hear this a lot, but that doesn't explain the explosion of American style SUVs in the UK. As far as I know, we don't have a similar law, and actually tax 4x4s. They are never used for work, and are instead driven by karens and boomers.

This review of the escalade in 2004 by sir Richard Hammond should illuminate why british people love them so much.

https://youtu.be/9hPltKySCwo?si=DuZWXwWogZeLxmRU

(Hint: its because they hate being white and want their wives to fuck black men.)
Also i suspect it has something to do with british class structure, i suspect low class british people who come into money buy it as a status symbol as do black/white trash people in america. And as is demonstrated by the review.

 

[quaawaa]

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[reptile baht spaniard rid]

I hear this a lot, but that doesn't explain the explosion of American style SUVs in the UK.

Part of it is just that "SUV" now covers everything under the sun except a sedan (has a trunk) or a minivan (sliding doors).

Other than that, everything that used to be a station wagon (now a crossover) or a hatchback (now a small SUV) is an SUV.

You also have a weird cost/tax inversion thing in Europe where taxes and such on vehicles are so high, that going for a larger SUV instead of a small car is proportionally smaller than in the US.

And since basically all SUVs are still smaller than European trucks, they fit just fine in normal operation.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Part of it is just that "SUV" now covers everything under the sun except a sedan (has a trunk) or a minivan (sliding doors).

Other than that, everything that used to be a station wagon (now a crossover) or a hatchback (now a small SUV) is an SUV.

You also have a weird cost/tax inversion thing in Europe where taxes and such on vehicles are so high, that going for a larger SUV instead of a small car is proportionally smaller than in the US.

And since basically all SUVs are still smaller than European trucks, they fit just fine in normal operation.

Many years ago I used to hate SUVs like a lot of the fuckcars and NJB but after I did some mild overlanding in one, I understood. That experience converted me. The disappearance of the wagon and sportwagon is a shame though. Sometimes you just want a fast sedan with a liftback and long roof.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

Many years ago I used to hate SUVs like a lot of the fuckcars and NJB but after I did some mild overlanding in one, I understood. That experience converted me. The disappearance of the wagon and sportwagon is a shame though. Sometimes you just want a fast sedan with a liftback and long roof.

Yeah, I kinda have a soft spot for station wagons, maybe it's the fake wood panneling. They practically vanished in the US right at the end of the 90s.

 

[quaawaa]

Many years ago I used to hate SUVs like a lot of the fuckcars and NJB but after I did some mild overlanding in one, I understood. That experience converted me. The disappearance of the wagon and sportwagon is a shame though. Sometimes you just want a fast sedan with a liftback and long roof.

You can still buy the E63S and the RS6 Avant. You also used to be able to buy the Panamera as a wagon until this year.

The RS7 and Model S are also fast liftbacks.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Many years ago I used to hate SUVs like a lot of the fuckcars and NJB but after I did some mild overlanding in one, I understood. That experience converted me. The disappearance of the wagon and sportwagon is a shame though. Sometimes you just want a fast sedan with a liftback and long roof.

It's kind of weird because in some way, the "perfect" vehicle for a given road footprint is a boxy cube/rectangle. SUVs are closer to that than cars in general (minivans are damn near exactly a box and are the bees knees).

What's interesting is if you stop and think about it for even a moment, the popularity of the SUVs indicate that people do use their vehicles for more than just commuting or other things that transit easily replaces.

The minivan killed the station wagon dead (along with crash regulations, I suspect). And it's kind of sad now, the minivan itself is somewhat on life-support as the number of companies making them is dwindling.

Sliding doors are fucking sick and anyone who doesn't understand how wonderful they are should suck a fatpipe.

I'd love to see some of the larger SUVs with optional sliding doors, tbh.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

You can still buy the E63S and the RS6 Avant. You also used to be able to buy the Panamera as a wagon until this year.

The RS7 and Model S are also fast liftbacks.

Yeah some sport wagons still do exist in the USDM. I saw a regular Benz E class wagon at a dealership very recently. By liftback I meant a 5th door. Something like the E46/E60 wagon where the end of the roof line goes to the rear bumper.

It's kind of weird because in some way, the "perfect" vehicle for a given road footprint is a boxy cube/rectangle. SUVs are closer to that than cars in general (minivans are damn near exactly a box and are the bees knees).

What's interesting is if you stop and think about it for even a moment, the popularity of the SUVs indicate that people do use their vehicles for more than just commuting or other things that transit easily replaces.

The minivan killed the station wagon dead (along with crash regulations, I suspect). And it's kind of sad now, the minivan itself is somewhat on life-support as the number of companies making them is dwindling.

Sliding doors are fucking sick and anyone who doesn't understand how wonderful they are should suck a fatpipe.

I'd love to see some of the larger SUVs with optional sliding doors, tbh.

I think it's because people value having the potential to do more with their cars. Cars are expensive purchases so it makes sense people would want one that's the most capable they can get. Modern SUVs address a lot of shortcomings that make the jack of all trades kind of vehicle more attractive now.

 

[quaawaa]

And it's kind of sad now, the minivan itself is somewhat on life-support as the number of companies making them is dwindling.

I would buy one if they put decent engines in them instead of anemic econobox engines.

To be honest though, a full size SUV is practically the same as a minivan just with a higher ride height and no sliding doors. There just isn’t that much demand for a low-floor SUV that can’t tow.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

To be honest though, a full size SUV is practically the same as a minivan just with a higher ride height and no sliding doors. There just isn’t that much demand for a low-floor SUV that can’t tow.

Yeah, the sliding doors really are advantageous with the smallest kids, which you relatively quickly outgrow.

And even though the modern minivan comes with almost 300 horse, and has some towing ability, it's not in the "full size boat" category (only about 3500 lbs).

Honestly the floor height and door type is the only difference now; the Toyota Highlander is basically the Toyota Sienna with regular doors. Too bad it doesn't go the other way.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

When the "drivers are trying to murder me" and "everyone should ride transit" ideas collide:

archive / thread

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

EDIT: Didn't realize it was a pooner, which accounts for being ugly and short.

When I first saw that thing, I thought to myself, "There's no way that thing isn't a pooner."

 

[euler271]

So the man who self immolated himself worked for strong towns

https://web.archive.org/web/20240419183814/https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2017/1/3/welcoming-2-new-staff-members-kea-wilson-and-max-azzerello

 

[Markass the Worst]

So the man who self immolated himself worked for strong towns

https://web.archive.org/web/20240419183814/https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2017/1/3/welcoming-2-new-staff-members-kea-wilson-and-max-azzerello

Wow, they memory holed that one real quick.
Archived today: https://archive.ph/n6r4S
Just a few hours later, 404: https://archive.ph/qiTsi

 

[Xarpho's Return]

So the man who self immolated himself worked for strong towns

https://web.archive.org/web/20240419183814/https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2017/1/3/welcoming-2-new-staff-members-kea-wilson-and-max-azzerello

Please give a warm welcome to these new members of the Strong Towns team.

Well, Max was warm for the rest of the life.