Debate users @Lidl Drip and @Mr Bones Wild Ride on if skintight leggings are appropriate workout attire.

[Johnny Salami]

Do people like, actually oogle women at the gym to the point where they stare for a long time and salivate? I see a lot of women at the gym and, at most, all I'll think is "nice legs/tits/ass" and move on to the next machine or excersise.

Same, but currently I'm near a university and the gym is full of Indians just starring at women. They voted for it, though

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

For the sake of Serge's eternal soul, I truly hope not, although the video evidence is pointing to the contrary.

Yipes, I wasn't talking about Serge, though I did run into a clip of him telling a young Whitney Houston he wanted to fuck her. But that aside (the lyrics are filthy and awesome):

(terrible video, so here's a shorter live instead, though no topless dancer, but sweaty French drunk dance moves

 

[draggs]

pls do NOT take this faux flirting to DMs

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

it was asserted that women just arrived at gyms in 2013

This assertion was a dumb comment and does not seem to be supported by many. At best it is tangential to the issue in question.

figure-hugging or skin-baring clothes have been standard gear for women working out for eons, far less and closer-fitting than street clothes of similar eras

Again, it is a matter of degree. There is a continuum here. I have stated that several times. There is figure hugging, then there is the sort of thing myself and @The Ugly One have been commenting on. There can be a balance. Women do not need to have protruding nipples, moist camel toe etc.

The original post included a man talking about his marital status when at the gym and saying the outfits were disturbing his peace. He did not describe the outfits. The easily offended and poorly self-regulated here took that to mean extreme outfits.

Again, the original comment is in a particuar CONTEXT, one seen in social media, and the sort of clothing that showed up a couple years ago, as documented by @The Ugly One.

In truth, long before butt-scrunch shorts, these same criticisms were leveled at women. Including 35 years ago when leggings were all shiny, heavy lycra that couldn't wedge your crotch if you'd wanted them to. Here on the farms, and beyond, leggings as a general class of clothing have been spoken of as the devil's own elixir and bannable, a very modern and pernicious indicator of endtimes.

I am not sure but I suspect leggings can be worn in a way that is not indecent.

wearing leggings means you are ipso facto advertising your wares

Because they are, at least in certain instances. Leggings need to be worn in a way that does not.

the wearer's motivations are irrelevant and certainly cannot be guessed.

WRONG. We can infer intention from actions. Criminal law does it all the time.

Leggings, in general, are perfectly reasonable clothes, at the gym and, within reason, elsewhere when casual.

Again, it seems like there is a spectrum here depending on fit, other factors. But on that spectrum is attire that is flagrant exhibtionism.

what someone wears is an literal assault.

I don't think women understand what it is like to me a man, especially a young man or horny teenager. I have stated it several times, there is a physiological effect involved in this. I again refer to that Bronco's cheerleader with the wet panties or whatever they are. I can explain it to you, but I cannot comprehend it for you. You can try and separate that from the trend where these women feign outrage but you'll fail, because that is an observable phenomenon. So really each time a man is subjected to this sort of exhibitionism, there is that psychic toll. Look away, make sure you if you do look you look away again real quickly.

The original discussion was about men being victimized and compromised by what women wear. Not about women's complaints about being leered at or followed around by houndogs.

You cannot separate the two because the latter is happening so much that most men will think about that if they are even accused at leering.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Oh my god. This is gonna turn into the ultimate unreal tournament version of 'she was asking for rape because her skirt was practically exposing her vulva' isn't it?

 

[Mr Bones Wild Ride]

I realise this post is completely futile but here goes anyway:

Everyone still arguing about clothes and male gym spaces - why?
That wasn't the point of the initial debate - I said to @Lidl Drip "I wear tight clothes at my female only gym and this is why, women who complain about being looked at while wearing these outfits are silly because they will attract attention, and don't film yourself at the fucking gym unless you have the permission/consent of everyone else around you because it is a cunt move".
(Again, shout out to Joey Swoll for calling out toxic behaviour at the gym)

I clearly started what my main contention was - @Lidl Drip being a fucking hypocrite.
I took issue that she was agreeing with a Reddit man claiming certain gym wear makes him uncomfortable when less than 24 hours before she posted a different Reddit man to mock him because he said ugly women make him uncomfortable. Those are two contradictory positions to have.

If she said "I don't like these outfits because I feel they oversexualise women" - there would have been no dispute. That's not necessarily a contentious point to make.

"I agree with this married man saying that women should cover up because it makes him uncomfortable, and it makes me uncomfortable, and it would make me worry that any male I manage to dependapotamus onto might be tempted away from me" is also its own argument which, had it come from someone else, I would have just gone "Ewww what a dumb sad bitch lmao" and moved on.

But because she fixates on any woman here who dares engage in behaviour she doesn't like and also shreds men for saying similar things - I took issue with it and called her out. This is something you are not allowed to do in her hugboxes and this is why this thread was created.

The fact people missed the point completely was even pointed out on page 13 by @Kalsarikännit and you're still fucking going on about camel toes and whatever the fuck.
For a group of users that complain non-stop about Redditors being coombrained hivemind lambs, the severe lack of reading comprehension on display is insane.
Null made the title of the thread fucking retarded but you should have still read the context if you're going to argue.

Just for the record, I would like to point out something hilarious:

Can't wait for A&H moids who usually argue for how based Islam is for making their women wear a burka and how all western women are now whores to argue that women wearing glorified underwear to the gym is actually awesome just because they don't like me, kek.

I have nothing more to say on this topic, enjoy the slapfight you clearly wanted.

None of the above happened - the "A&N moids" agreed with her position

I said @Lidl Drip's position was Pick Me logic - According to them, the reason they attack Otterly as a Pick Me so much is because she keeps agreeing with those darned "A&H moids".

@Lurker then whinged at me taking issue with this because "people here are allowed to hold contradictory opinions!!!!11".
Except the women they despise the most (the two off the top of my head are @PaladinBoo, @Feline Supremacist) got attacked because they held "contradictory positions".
So I don't understand why it's such an issue to then point out the hypocrisy of anyone here.

@Lidl Drip et al will go after women who don't like the women in the Man-Hate thread by bringing up things about these women that is contradictory to the positions they hold.
(Aka PaladinBoo calling them empty egg cartons but being 34 without kids, FelineSupremacist being a non-white divorced woman over 40 or something)

One rule for me, one rule for thee!

 

[derpherp2]

The fuck is an A&H by the way.
Why are the BPhags so retarded they don't even know who they're insulting?

 

[Teghern]

The fuck is an A&H by the way.
Why are the BPhags so retarded they don't even know who they're insulting?

Thunderdome denizens I presume, A&niggers.
Out here in the *shock* wastelands of *horror* non-admin enforced safe-spacery where *terror* der mensch roam unbounded by basic principles of *gasp* civilisation.
You know like not agreeing with all the shit you spew or daring to try to debate a topic on a literal actual forum (you know, a place intended for discussion).
I just want to have good arguments and I can't even have that because the only people who want to shout back at me are the people I already agree with.

 

[derpherp2]

You know like not agreeing with all the shit you spew or daring to try to debate a topic on a literal actual forum (you know, a place intended for discussion).
I just want to have good arguments and I can't even have that because the only people who want to shout back at me are the people I already agree with.

I like the part where they then bitch about it in the DMZ.
They REALLY want to argue.

 

[Teghern]

I like the part where they then bitch about it in the DMZ.
They REALLY want to argue.

I remain convinced it's just a tactic to harvest our impotent rage but yes it sure does come across as a self-denial process.
Very self-harming, undeniably feminine, for the best it stay that way.

 

[derpherp2]

I remain convinced it's just a tactic to harvest our impotent rage but yes it sure does come across as a self-denial process.
Very self-harming, undeniably feminine, for the best it stay that way.

idk their kvetching about otterly in the pick-me thread says it isn't baiting, but them being legitimately retarded. Especially since they haven't reported their own kvetching yet.

Also if they were smart, they'd at least be funny and be able to read the room. They also, again. Apparently bring me up to bitch about me too. Without summoning me. Also while ignoring me. Before I made it obvious I was "stalking them" enjoy prison.



Like a bitch.

 

[Null]

The fuck is an A&H by the way.

Articles and Happenings used to be one board. When split, I changed it to Articles and News so the new name wouldn't be too unfamiliar. All red boards are broadly A&H.

 

[derpherp2]

Articles and Happenings used to be one board. When split, I changed it to Articles and News so the new name wouldn't be too unfamiliar.

Oh wait I was there when that happened.
Still last I checked, Happenings is pretty banal compared to the A&Niggery now, so.

 

[AgendaPoster]

If she said "I don't like these outfits because I feel they oversexualise women" - there would have been no dispute. That's not necessarily a contentious point to make.

But because she fixates on any woman here who dares engage in behaviour she doesn't like and also shreds men for saying similar things - I took issue with it and called her out. This is something you are not allowed to do in her hugboxes and this is why this thread was created.

@Lidl Drip et al will go after women who don't like the women in the Man-Hate thread by bringing up things about these women that is contradictory to the positions they hold.
(Aka PaladinBoo calling them empty egg cartons but being 34 without kids, FelineSupremacist being a non-white divorced woman over 40 or something)

If you want to get to the bottom of this sports attire thing, ask yourselves (women in general) - if I were in a remote village in an area devoid of men, and I would have to workout outside, what would I wear, if I could just choose, when I know nobody will be watching? Most of women will simply still wear body fitting apparel, shorts etc. simply out of convenience.
Also, there's a huge difference between what properly fit women wear and what chicks trying to get slimmer do. Again, this is basically my job, I see this every day. Essentially all runners I work with wear tight fitting synthetic tshirts. In the summer everyone wears shorts, either comfy ones or butt fitting ones. So if you're into sports, the most comfy things you can wear inherently tend to show your body, male or female.
As for Lidl, all she wants is that when moids have a strong opinion about chicks, the ladies will take the opposite side to maintain the hostility between the two groups. She has like 2 dudes that are exceptions, cause she finds them unthreatening and funny, and rest of the moids must be opposed regardless of what they want.
That's a common behavior for the lowest IQ reactionary types, like MAGA and the sort. DemonKKKraps said it, so it's bad. Or the opposite way, Trump said it, so it just has to be bad.
People like these are incredibly, dangerously retarded. Also unfunny.
And before the Paladin and Feline autism, we had Blobby, and DVNC. And probably others before that.
Moids are usually ignored; but the real aggressiveness and hostility is reserved for women that step out of line.
That is saying a lot about what we're dealing with here, and it's a story as old as humanity, where the older, fatter, no longer attractive hags would seethe at any younger woman that mingled with men, and would conspire to bring her down so she cannot use her assets and ensnare their men.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

That is saying a lot about what we're dealing with here, and it's a story as old as humanity, where the older, fatter, no longer attractive hags would seethe at any younger woman that mingled with men, and would conspire to bring her down so she cannot use her assets and ensnare their men.

And before the Paladin and Feline autism, we had Blobby, and DVNC

This is very contradictory my dud . I don't know about dvnc but let me repeat myself

All these are past their prime and possibly postmenopausal women the youngest of these is 34 year old. I literally listed the age ranges of these women . Something isn't right in these claims my brother.

Unless you count as young 34+ year old women

 

[DumbDude43]

If you want to get to the bottom of this sports attire thing, ask yourselves (women in general) - if I were in a remote village in an area devoid of men, and I would have to workout outside, what would I wear

dishonest question
in the absence of men no woman would become interested in doing weightlifting or strength training for herself, so the question of what to wear in that situation would never come up in the first place

 

[AgendaPoster]

This is very contradictory my dud . I don't know about dvnc but let me repeat myself

All these are past their prime and possibly postmenopausal women the youngest of these is 34 year old. I literally listed the age ranges of these women . Something isn't right in these claims my brother.

Unless you count as young .

Yes, they might be middle age, but they mingled with males and opposed the Moid Hate thread. DVNC is weirder, cause she also lusted after Jersh's balls, apparently.

in the absence of men no woman would become interested in doing weightlifting or strength training for herself

No that's just untrue. Again, this is basically my job. I know plenty of women that couldn't care less about how men look at them and are focused on athletic performance. I know women that literally cried when they were injured and could not train. Very dedicated, like any other athlete.
To claim women exclusively train to become attractive for men is just untrue.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

Yes, they might be middle age, but they mingled with males and opposed the Moid Hate thread. DVNC is weirder, cause she also lusted after Jersh's balls, apparently.

All of these threw stones at other women in order to get in the good graces of other men. Starting from boo mocking women in their 30s and 40s while she herself is 34 . Until i reposted her dox to remind her , same for feline and blobby. You can go suck dick all you want but don't put down the average western woman while you are at it. Male attention is easy and plentiful all you have to do is post pictures on Instagram which makes it pathetic. There are plenty of other's who comingle with men but rarely go those feminist amirite and western women amirite .

 

[derpherp2]

Look I'm just saying instead of worrying about what other people wear because of your own insecurities, have you tried not being ugly?

Or at last knowing the difference between a belgian waffle from a regular one. Or a pizza from a flatbread.

All of these threw stones at other women in order to get in the good graces of other men. Starting from boo mocking women in their 30s and 40s while she herself is 34 . Until i reposted her dox to remind her , same for feline and blobby. You can go suck dick all you want but don't put down the average western woman while you are at it. Male attention is easy and plentiful all you have to do is post pictures on Instagram which makes it pathetic. There are plenty of other's who comingle with men but rarely go those feminist amirite and western women amirite .

GOTIS projects her pick-me at people she doesn't know the gender of. Dogfucking at 11.
This is why you BPhag's rampant accusations coming from nothing is always entertaining. It's categorical projection.

 

[AgendaPoster]

All of these threw stones at other women in order to get in the good graces of other men. Starting from boo mocking women in their 30s and 40s while she herself is 34 . Until i reposted her dox to remind her , same for feline and blobby. You can go suck dick all you want but don't put down the average western woman while you are at it. Male attention is easy and plentiful all you have to do is post pictures on Instagram which makes it pathetic. There are plenty of other's who comingle with men but rarely go those feminist amirite and western women amirite .

There is literally NOTHING wrong with women and men getting along. You've been engaging with me for months and even if we disagree on dozens of things, nobody died.
It's normal that both men and women change their behaviors some when in mixed groups to accommodate the other sex.