Culture Warhammer 40,000 has slightly more women in it now and the neckbeards aren't happy - We're still not at "female space marines" but give it time.

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Since Warhammer 40,000's 10th edition was released last year, each of the wargame's factions has been getting the traditional rules refresh in the form of a new Codex book. The latest deals with the Adeptus Custodes, genetically engineered bodyguards of the Emperor so gigantic they make space marines look weedy. (They also happen to be Henry Cavill's army of choice). There are 10,000 of them and in the past they've only ever been depicted as men. In this latest iteration, shock horror, at least two of the Custodes are women.

Most players seem to have responded to this by shrugging and getting back to arguing about the new rules, but there's always a vocal minority who go on a tear. The Mail Online ran a typically subtle and understated headline that declared "It's Wokehammer!" and the meme community Grimdank has declared posts about "Femstodes" will only be allowed for one week before they join "Female Space Marine posts" as a banned topic. Games Workshop's official response is a tweet that says, "In regards to female Custodians, there have always been female Custodians, since the first of the Ten Thousand were created."

Is this a retcon? Yep, and it won't be the last. Warhammer 40,000 has had fluid "lore" right from the start. The original Custodian Guards were depicted as shirtless hunks who never leave Earth—a long way from the heavily armored galaxy-spanning golden gods they became—to say nothing of tweaks to the 40K canon like ditching half-eldar space marines and rewriting the Horus Heresy from a short story a handful of pages long into a series of 60+ novels.

The Adeptus Custodes aren't 40K's only genetically engineered supersoldiers, of course. The setting's flagship faction are the space marines, who are created differently—where Custodes are enhanced via a unique process begun when they're infants, space marines begin being grafted with a "gene-seed" when they're on the verge of puberty. And while the explanation that space marine gene-seeds are "keyed to male hormones and tissue types" goes back a way, it's not the real reason Games Workshop made a whole army of dudes who are men.

As GW's former head of IP Alan Merrett once explained on Facebook, "The reason there aren't female Space Marines has nothing to do with lore, or background or character of Marines. It's to do with [the] simple logistics of making miniatures and selling miniatures." In the 1980s GW sold miniatures in sets called blister packs, and as Merrett explained "the intention was that upwards of 25% of all models would be female." That didn't last because "retailers kept complaining to us that customers weren't buying the female models and could we not include any in their restocks." By the time Warhammer 40,000 was designed, GW made sure its poster boys were, well, boys to ensure they'd sell. As Merrett put it, "All the background fluff about why there are only male Marines is there to justify a commercial logistics issue."

And the same was true of the Adeptus Custodes, until it wasn't. Though the customers at the average Warhammer shop are mostly men, these days there are usually one or two women as well. And the men are a lot less likely to throw a hissy-fit about having women in their armies than gamers in the 1980s, despite what Reddit and Twitter might suggest. All of 40K's lore and storytelling exists to provide context for selling toy soldiers to people, and as the customer base changes so too will that lore.

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I'm sure there are more "women" now. All the men have left for greener pastures. (Wouldn't ya know it.. theres a new dystopian galactic empire with "Managed Democracy" they can go to)
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The Sisters really just need something to do besides be faith build space marines and collecting relics. Oh, the order of the bloody heart of the maytr found St. Katherine's wisdom teeth? Who cares, The Lion is back. Give them something long term to work towards. Hell, give them the Illuminati/Star Child thing, since technically that should be their mandate. As you say, 'babes in high heeled power armor bring holy wrath to heretics with flammers' checks all the boxes for a good foundation for a 40k faction (Things a guy finishing a long night of smoking ditch weed and playing Doom II DM in his dorm would describe as 'rad'), just do something with the concept.
Unfortunately I don't think the SoB have ever had anything resembling a good army list. They're a force designed to wipe out trash mobs up close with a bunch of flamers, heavy bolters, and meltas when GW has made the entire gameplay meta center around Space Marines. No plasma? No ranged anti-armor? Get fucked.
 
there have always been female Custodians
That time the Custodes stripped off their armor was a mixed-sex event? Oh, that armor thing was rendered noncanon years ago, you say? So something published can just be completely ignored if it becomes inconvenient? Huh.

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Chest armor is for pussies anyway...
In Rogue Trader it was stated that the Custodes had all locked themselves in the Imperial Palace to mourn the loss of the Emperor and their failure. As penance they stripped off their armor, guarding the Golden Throne wearing naught but their helmets. This plot point was never touched on again but was shown to still be canon in 4th edition. This little nudist colony would have been forgotten were it not for a little web series known as If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device, which unearthed the naked glory of the Fabstodes for a new generation.

It went memetic. A little too memetic; in fact Lexicanum and the 40k Wikia had to lock their pages to stop the flood of Jojokes. Then GW's writers finally got off their butts and decided to make some real lore for the Emperor's bodyguards. One of the first things they did was rid themselves of nudist Custodes. Then the real worldbuilding began:
 
Like is he JK Rowling but more attractive or something?
He's a true and honest nerd that got born to be movie star hot for some reason. There's a great interview for Witcher where Colbert asks him a soft ball question about which potion from Witcher he'd like in real life. Cavil shuts him down and explains how Witcher potions are highly toxic and his human biology couldn't handle it, like Colbert is the idiot for not knowing the lore.

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Chest armor is for pussies anyway...
In Rogue Trader it was stated that the Custodes had all locked themselves in the Imperial Palace to mourn the loss of the Emperor and their failure. As penance they stripped off their armor, guarding the Golden Throne wearing naught but their helmets. This plot point was never touched on again but was shown to still be canon in 4th edition. This little nudist colony would have been forgotten were it not for a little web series known as If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device, which unearthed the naked glory of the Fabstodes for a new generation.

It went memetic. A little too memetic; in fact Lexicanum and the 40k Wikia had to lock their pages to stop the flood of Jojokes. Then GW's writers finally got off their butts and decided to make some real lore for the Emperor's bodyguards. One of the first things they did was rid themselves of nudist Custodes. Then the real worldbuilding began:
>Be Cypher
>Be on a ten thousand year quest to bring The Lion's broken sword to the Golden Throne for your own reason
>Kill and manipulate your way through the flash points of the Imperium, make friends with Harlequins and play both sides with your brace of pistols
>Free Rowboat Girlyman to kick start something and almost to get the Golden Throne
>Kill two Custodes to get close but ultimately get driven off
>Time skip
>Finally get to the throne, pistols smoking, the broken sword still on your back. To offer repentance for the fallen? To strike down the Emperor? The sword that was broken thrums on your back. You hurl open the doors and draw your pistols.
>The chamber is dark, the Throne so bright you dare not look at it. You avert your eyes, searching for threats. As your eyes adjust you see them..
>13 foot tall, wielding spears of gold. The Custodes. 13 of them in that holy place on eternal guard.
>They have their cocks out and are only wearing helmets.
 
If GW destroys Warhammer, it's over. It's done. Nobody can bring it back.
The best chance to salvage the IP if GW decides to self immolate would be for an investor who actually enjoys the original lore or investor group to buy the IP when it hits rock bottom and ret con all the faggotry and retardation. Possible by that time the entire fandom would have moved on, but it could also be a complete revitalization and spur huge interest again.
 
That time the Custodes stripped off their armor was a mixed-sex event? Oh, that armor thing was rendered noncanon years ago, you say? So something published can just be completely ignored if it becomes inconvenient? Huh.

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Chest armor is for pussies anyway...
In Rogue Trader it was stated that the Custodes had all locked themselves in the Imperial Palace to mourn the loss of the Emperor and their failure. As penance they stripped off their armor, guarding the Golden Throne wearing naught but their helmets. This plot point was never touched on again but was shown to still be canon in 4th edition. This little nudist colony would have been forgotten were it not for a little web series known as If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device, which unearthed the naked glory of the Fabstodes for a new generation.

It went memetic. A little too memetic; in fact Lexicanum and the 40k Wikia had to lock their pages to stop the flood of Jojokes. Then GW's writers finally got off their butts and decided to make some real lore for the Emperor's bodyguards. One of the first things they did was rid themselves of nudist Custodes. Then the real worldbuilding begans

1d4chan lives on

We recreated it as 1d6chan if anyone cares, since Root went woke and decided to kill it because of bad words and how it was "negatively" influencing the hobby...

The massive wanker wouldn't even turn it over to us, I even offered to pay for the costs, instead we had to scrape the archives and only saved about 80% of it.

Vulcan MEAT Bread Lives!
 
Listen, Warhammer bros, it's time to RETVRN TV TRVDITIVN. Come back to where it all started.

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I've tried getting into historical miniatures, but I'm basically a horror movie geek at heart and it's stuff like Nurgle that got me into to Warhammer. Now that Warhammer has gone Disney, there really isn't anywhere for me to go, so I'm just leaving the hobby entirely.
 
I've tried getting into historical miniatures, but I'm basically a horror movie geek at heart and it's stuff like Nurgle that got me into to Warhammer. Now that Warhammer has gone Disney, there really isn't anywhere for me to go, so I'm just leaving the hobby entirely.

We got insane blood cultists covered, at least.

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Hasn't the recreation already started removing "problematic" content from the old one? I saw bits of the chat that started here.


Well the new host has the usual rules for "hateful" content that's posted and some asshole went and complained about some minor shit that hurt their fee fees of course as there is a very small group of woketards who want 1d4chan gone for good. Like 4 cocksuckers max but they're annoying as fuck.

so yah some stuff had to be changed or they'd pull our license and ban us but what can you do. We're trying our best to keep the spirit of 1d4 alive. That tongue in cheek not pc style but compromises had to be made. We're not Null, we can't host our own shit or fight the whole world.

Would I love to tell them to go suck eggs? Of course. But for now at least while we rebuild the community we have to abide.
 
Well the new host has the usual rules for "hateful" content that's posted and some asshole went and complained about some minor shit that hurt their fee fees of course as there is a very small group of woketards who want 1d4chan gone for good. Like 4 cocksuckers max but they're annoying as fuck.

so yah some stuff had to be changed or they'd pull our license and ban us but what can you do. We're trying our best to keep the spirit of 1d4 alive. That tongue in cheek not pc style but compromises had to be made. We're not Null, we can't host our own shit or fight the whole world.

Would I love to tell them to go suck eggs? Of course. But for now at least while we rebuild the community we have to abide.

I don't know if you're "Someone else", but the tone he took in the /tg/ "announcement" thread leaves a very poor impression and does not stoke confidence in the project.
 
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I don't know if you're "Someone else", but the tone he took in the /tg/ "announcement" thread leaves a very poor impression and does not stoke confidence in the project.

What can I say, there is always a chance shit could go sideways. Troons are out there and looking for a win but all one can do is trust people and vett as well as you can.

Do I think Troons will take over 1d6? Not really, the team is small and dedicated and everyone knows each other from the "old" days and a big team isn't needed so a troon stealthing their way to take over the site would be pretty hard.

But who knows, we are in clown world so shit could always happen.

Much more likely is the cocksuckers keep reporting us to the host over and over again until the host gets sick of it and says is this 50 bucks a month really worth it and boots us. Standard tactics.
 
No, because companies are looking to expand their profits into female territory.
They think this is how they are gonna get Becca not to buy a latte and buy a space marine.
Fucking lol

Plus, afaik, you can't even buy a Custodes Army, they'd be too OP.

They could have said, a small % of Custodes are women, a Custodes hasn't been made in 10,000 years, the Space Marine production process can't be used on women

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Contra the above, my limited understanding of Warcraft leads me to think it is more dependent upon "whales" (consooomers willing to part with big bucks) than most hobbies, so maybe the drop off won't be as drastic in dollar terms as it was in some of the others. Time will tell. If they start chasing away the whales, though? 🤔
Whales leave if there's no-one to flex on.
 
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The easiest “out” for GW regarding foid-marines is to say that sure, there are female space marines, but the gene-seed and other implants leave them literally indistinguishable from the male space marines. Astartes are already sterile and physical sexual/reproductive characteristics don’t really serve a function on a bioengineered living weapon.

Then when degenerates cry about not having foid-marines they could pull the uno reverse card of “How can you tell? Not all women have breasts/vaginas.:smug:
 
They could have said, a small % of Custodes are women, a Custodes hasn't been made in 10,000 years, the Space Marine production process can't be used on women
There are so many ways they could have gone with it instead of this gaslighting bullshit, they have a walking deus ex machina in Cawl and didn't even use him.

The man pulled the primaris project out of his fucking shiny metal ass, you're going to tell me he can't pull a "XX chromies stabilization for custodians" STC out of it and then have a few regiments of the most devoted SoB's accept the conversion even if it comes at an immense risk?

Nah, the better way to do it was obviously "always there" and have your social media reps behave like brainrotted social media addicts antagonistically chasing gotchas.

The easiest “out” for GW regarding foid-marines is to say that sure, there are female space marines, but the gene-seed and other implants leave them literally indistinguishable from the male space marines. Astartes are already sterile and physical sexual/reproductive characteristics don’t really serve a function on a bioengineered living weapon.

Then when degenerates cry about not having foid-marines they could pull the uno reverse card of “How can you tell? Not all women have breasts/vaginas.:smug:
The way custodians are created is completely different, you could easily have femstodes and not a single female space marine if you weren't a hack about how you write it.

Tl;dr is that marines are implanted in early adulthood or adolescence, while custodians start the process much earlier, and it involves "bio alchemy" (aka space magic bullshit) that causes the body to trigger the process more naturally, changes them on a cellular level and imbues them with a spark of the emperor's own divinity.

That's about all it is known about the process, so not only are GW utter hacks for not having a figure pull the femstodes creation as an update out of their ass (I mean, retcon), but they are double hacks for not doing it with a process that was left so vague as to be the equivalent of "it's sorcery I ain't gotta explain shit", they had nearly no constraints on how they could have gone about it, unlike the space marine process which is much more cut and clear.

It was a controversial topic, GW chose to be the biggest hacks about it, that's all it is.
 
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