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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
Maybe we'll see something like 8 P-cores + 256 E-cores eventually, so that a handful of single-threaded sensitive tasks can be run on the P-cores alongside the pile of E-cores for massively parallel tasks. I don't know if any servers need that, and no such product has been announced. In the meantime, enjoy Sierra Forest with 288 E-cores.
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That would be a interesting experiment nonetheless, which I guess they're doing with Sierra forest. Personally I just find that the tech is neat.

Which speaking of I got a i9 12900k for my rig I'm building, replacing the previous 12700k i7. 8P cores, 8E cores. Now I don't care about the bullshit behind hybrid cores, that IS a monster.
 
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This lga2066 motherboard would fit into my ThinkServer without having to modify the case for a generic ATX PSU, and it has all the PCIe slots I need to connect the SAS card, Quadro p400, and an Intel Arc 310 I'd eventually get. Is any of the compatible CPUs good? Coming from a e3-1220v2 that mostly runs fine but gets maxed out at times
 
Betonhaus said:
This lga2066 motherboard would fit into my ThinkServer without having to modify the case for a generic ATX PSU, and it has all the PCIe slots I need to connect the SAS card, Quadro p400, and an Intel Arc 310 I'd eventually get. Is any of the compatible CPUs good? Coming from a e3-1220v2 that mostly runs fine but gets maxed out at times
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I don't know what you mean by "good." You can put a Cascade Lake-X CPU in there, and it will run without bursting into flames, but 2019 is the crossover point where AMD pulled ahead of Intel significantly in server/workstation CPU performance. However, if you were mostly happy with that ancient quad-core Ivy Bridge CPU, hard for me to say what you really need.
 
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Does anyone know a good 240 watt cooler? My i9 12900k hits 241 watts at peak load and I've been trying to figure out how to keep the thing from going nuclear.
I've looked at reviews for the phantom spirit EVO, but it maxes out at 238. Im seriously thinking about liquid cooling, becauseno, im not limiting the wattage, i bought a i9 for the power.

Also le core:
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WelperHelper99 said:
Does anyone know a good 240 watt cooler? My i9 12900k hits 241 watts at peak load and I've been trying to figure out how to keep the thing from going nuclear.
I've looked at reviews for the phantom spirit EVO, but it maxes out at 238. Im seriously thinking about liquid cooling, becauseno, im not limiting the wattage, i bought a i9 for the power.

Also le core:
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It won't sustain 240W for long periods of time. The cooler affects how long it can run at max TDP before being cooled...even with my cramped case, my i9-12900 can hit its max 200W for a few seconds.

Something like this will be plenty for the k version

 
The Ugly One said:
It won't sustain 240W for long periods of time. The cooler affects how long it can run at max TDP before being cooled...even with my cramped case, my i9-12900 can hit its max 200W for a few seconds.

Something like this will be plenty for the k version

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Alright, thanks man! Pretty much what I thought, it's only peaking for a few seconds at a time, but I still don't want throttling. This will do.
 
Watercooling is worth considering for higher-end processors. All the extra water takes a lot of time to heat up, which means the fans won't have to react and spin up to maximum right away, bursts of activity (which is what happens 99% of the time) likely won't make the fans spin up at all. Just make sure your motherboard has a thermistor header, or use something like an Aquacomputer fan controller, which has its own thermistor header.
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
You didn't drop 330 bucks on a core. I want overhead.
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Well, you can't actually rate coolers in terms of wattage, any cooler dissipates in proportion to its temperature (because of the laws of physics), and can also enhance its performance by blasting more air through (nosier). Also, yes I did stalker child I have a 7900X.

I would recommend looking at the timestamped portion of this review: https://youtu.be/ow0crBSKIXw?si=sLpoGJCLJLHGqoZa&t=748

I dont think you would benefit that much from a liquid cooler, though they did chart a high end one. GN only tests up to 200W but you wont actually go that much higher in terms of degrees C from the bit of additional wattage. IMO a 240W cpu can comfortably air cool (probably not much above 60C) unless you don't have enough room for airflow or you want to get it really really cold for some reason.
 
geckogoy said:
Well, you can't actually rate coolers in terms of wattage, any cooler dissipates in proportion to its temperature (because of the laws of physics), and can also enhance its performance by blasting more air through (nosier). Also, yes I did stalker child I have a 7900X.

I would recommend looking at the timestamped portion of this review: https://youtu.be/ow0crBSKIXw?si=sLpoGJCLJLHGqoZa&t=748

I dont think you would benefit that much from a liquid cooler, however they charted high end liquid coolers for comparison. GN only tests up to 200W but you wont actually go that much higher in terms of degrees C from the bit of additional wattage. IMO a 240W cpu can comfortably air cool (probably not much above 60C) unless you don't have enough room for airflow or you want to get it really really cold for some reason.
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Dude they literally do rate on wattage, it's called TDP. And yes I want it cold. Fuck heat. Fuck stress. I want it to last until the motherboard itself fucking nukes itself
 
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WelperHelper99 said:
Fuck heat. Fuck stress.
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BTW most of these charts will be delta T over ambient, so if you assume a 20C room then that 47.8 for liquid freezer II will be 67.8C actual temperature. A liquid freezer III also came out so if you want the king of self contained liquid cooling get that instead. If you just want to be mad then I wanted to let you know you are a gay jew nigger.
 
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geckogoy said:
BTW most of these charts will be delta T over ambient, so if you assume a 20C room then that 47.8 for liquid freezer II will be 67.8C actual temperature. A liquid freezer III also came out so if you want the king of self contained liquid cooling get that instead. If you just want to be mad then I wanted to let you know you are a gay jew nigger.
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Why do you think I'm mad? It's a fucking cpu cooler. Thanks for the recommendation.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
Dude they literally do rate on wattage, it's called TDP. And yes I want it cold. Fuck heat. Fuck stress. I want it to last until the motherboard itself fucking nukes itself
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241W is the maximum power your CPU will consume for a few seconds at a time, not a sustained load, and you don't need a cooler that can dissipate 241W continuously in order to intermittently draw 241W. Nothing stopping you from putting a giant cooler on it. A 64-core Threadripper Pro needs to continuously dissipate that kind of heat, not an 8+8 core i9, and that massive CPU is perfectly happy with the kinds of coolers already linked.
 
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