Generation Z, "Ironic" Degeneracy, Sadism, and Discord - Not a fun thread

[Odd Opossum]

The west is collapsing rapidly, there is no hope for the future and the powers at be can no longer offer anything but self-hate and nihilism (unless you are of a certain tribe then the time of glory draws near).

Dude, this is how the internet has always been, full of freaks, perverts and psychos. What are you trying to say here except doomer whining?

 

[skibidi biden]

why's it always tards who end up being depraved? is there some kind of undocumented association with disability and a lack of moral development?

the n*zis openly believed that degeneracy and depravity were the result of genetic defects

FAS isn't heritable but it is neurological

like how jews tend to be very inbred and that causes them to have lots of fucked up congenital disorders and neurological issues oh and that guy was part jewish btw

 

[local arkansas man]

"Zuken" was also apart of. The implication here is that the people behind Incredibly Gassy may have some association with this site as well.

Zuken had an account on Nolimitspedia and he even appeared in the first and second sharty threads on Nolimitspedia, more info can be found Here. On the topic on his involment behind Incredible Gassy, He claims that he was in the original 'cord server (of course) where the meme was made and was one of the first people who popularised it on Ifunny and rwtwitter.

I have also noticed that a lot of these people have connection to Colaws and Amerikaner, Two Youtubers who originated on Ifunny whose videos consist of Twitter memes, weed jokes and what outsiders think are "sharty memes" i.e Its over, millions must die, I transheart X. Along with that Colaws does mention Incredible Gassy in some of his videos revealing a connection between him and Zuken and such him and Nolimitspedia.

 

[SomeSpook]

How can you be an edgelord and not have the balls to say "nigger?" You're not even an edgelord, you're just a coward at that point.

 

[LarpBait]

Colaws does mention Incredible Gassy in some of his videos revealing a connection between him and Zuken and such him and Nolimitspedia

I don't think that this is as clear as it may be, I'm sure that many people posting the incredibly gassy meme are not aware of its forced pedocord coal origins, and may have just found it funny on their own. I know that ChippleDipple guy is into the meme, but that's just because of his undying love for brap humor.

Colaws and Amerikaner are big namefags in/orbiting the iFunny community if my memory serves me correct, this alone doesn't make them apart of these hurtcore groups, just adjacent to it in a similar fashion to how your average soyjak.party poster is adjacent to it.

If you have something with them doing BNWO BLACKED humor, peter scully posting, or showing other "irony pedo" behavior, then that may of interest. Otherwise, it's just usual iFunny shitposting.

 

[local arkansas man]

If you have something with them doing BNWO BLACKED humor, peter scully posting, or showing other "irony pedo" behavior, then that may of interest. Otherwise, it's just usual iFunny shitposting.

Haha you just reminded me! they have mentioned peter scully along with references to bnwo before.

 

[LarpBait]

they have mentioned peter scully along with references to bnwo before

interesting, now is it "ironic" pedophillia or ironic jokes about pedophillia.
I'm starting to see why these ironic pedos use the irony shield, it lets them blend in a lot more into normal shitposting online and gives them plausible deniability while they signal to each other.

 

[Kiwi2Shoes]

interesting, now is it "ironic" pedophillia or ironic jokes about pedophillia.
I'm starting to see why these ironic pedos use the irony shield, it lets them blend in a lot more into normal shitposting online and gives them plausible deniability while they signal to each other.

Null's Law strikes again!

 

[LarpBait]

Null's Law strikes again!

Is this a Null clip I haven't seen? spoon-feed a newfag like me! please?

 

[Odd Opossum]

Is this a Null clip I haven't seen? spoon-feed a newfag like me! please?

Null has said in the past what you posted, that "ironic" pedophiles are still pedophiles.

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

Dude, this is how the internet has always been, full of freaks, perverts and psychos. What are you trying to say here except doomer whining?

Wake up and smell the ashes. The internet was not always like this. If you paid any attention you will see that the degeneracy got worse as the western world got worse. Kids were never this fucked in the head before.

When I was using the internet as a kid there was only the odd site like Rotten with gore or porn and it was very easy to avoid. The first time I ran into anything disgusting was in the late 00s when I signed up to a dating site and old gay men sent me dick pics (I said I was straight in my profile but I was a teen so a target for faggots).

You strike me as being cut from the same cloth as the zoomers. You are lost in the esoteric spaces on the internet with no concept of what is going on outside your window. You probably look at pixel art and wish you lived in those ethereal planes. The youth are lost in the endless sea of what someone from the 19th century would probably call a dream - internet, games, memes, social media, porn, trending videos, none of them know how to cook but they know how to make glass in Minecraft, it's fucked.

It's always a joke though isn't it? It's always played for laughs that nobody knows how to live anymore. They are all going to be in for a shock as our extinction draws closer and our civilizations crumble.

Tbf, I believe the media has also mentioned the groups "Harm Nation" and "Cultist", two of the descendant / offshoot groups of 764 (though I could be confusing the media with Vile's Doxbin paste on them). Also, journalists not going as in-depth into an issue as sites like us or Doxbin do doesn't require maliciousness to explain - many of them write one or two articles about a topic and call it a done deal, regardless of the aftermath of their article(s). Wanting to move onto the "next big story" is a pervasive sentiment among journos (or at least, any of the journos that even stood a chance of covering this topic competently), and it isn't because they're secretly supportive of the issues they cover - the nature of their job (as they argue) just usually demands they not stay focused on a single topic for prolonged periods of time, or else much of the audience that pays their bills will move onto reading other journos that cover a wider variety of topics. We here know better than most how undervalued in-depth investigations can be by the general public!

How do you explain the phenomena of the defensive journalist - Groomers are uncovered and instead of reporting on it the journalist instead runs interference and does everything they can to sweep it under the rug. They all do this, they all gas light the masses into thinking nothing is going on. 10 years ago HRT directories could not exist in the west.

 

[Sprate Header]

How do you explain the phenomena of the defensive journalist

They all do this, they all gas light the masses into thinking nothing is going on. 10 years ago HRT directories could not exist in the west.

The fact you had to add the "defensive" qualifier to "defensive journalist" shows that, no, not all journalists blatantly run defense for child grooming rings (like Joseph Cox of 404 Media has done) - that is an asinine claim to make. If all every journalist wants to do is run defense for pedos, then why run any story about 764 at all (as your previous argument was that their stories about 764 just weren't enough)?

You can dislike the journalism industry and think they by and large aren't doing their job properly without accusing all of them of being a freelance PR department for pedophilia. Insane, massive overgeneralizations like this are not helpful at all for analyzing the phenomena this thread is centered around.

 

[Forsaken Wanderer]

The fact you had to add the "defensive" qualifier to "defensive journalist" shows that, no, not all journalists blatantly run defense for child grooming rings (like Joseph Cox of 404 Media has done) - that is an asinine claim to make. If all every journalist wants to do is run defense for pedos, then why run any story about 764 at all (as your previous argument was that their stories about 764 just weren't enough)?

You can dislike the journalism industry and think they by and large aren't doing their job properly without accusing all of them of being a freelance PR department for pedophilia. Insane, massive overgeneralizations like this are not helpful at all for analyzing the phenomena this thread is centered around.

764 showed a nationalist socialist flag in a stream once so the media can say that "nazis" are grooming kids. The glow in the dark connection to 764 was becoming too apparent and so they had to shut it down. Those are the two real reasons they decided to cover that one group.

If we didn't live in a cardboard cutout world where everything is just for show then you wouldn't have pedo cults on the internet because they would all be in prison and parents would be aware of what is going on. CP is essentially legal in some states as has been shown by the amount of sickos that have walked free. Culture is downstream from law, if men in wigs can publicly groom children in broad daylight on the streets then why wouldn't the internet be exactly the same. It's all coming from the top down.

 

[MarMar049]

How can you be an edgelord and not have the balls to say "nigger?" You're not even an edgelord, you're just a coward at that point.

These retards mostly larp as nazis, they say nigger all the time.
Are confusing them with those anti-furry, wahammer 40k posting kids on tiktok?

glow in the dark connection to 764

Why do you right wingers always scream "muh feds!" when one of your own does fucked up shit?

 

[Odd Opossum]

You strike me as being cut from the same cloth as the zoomers. You are lost in the esoteric spaces on the internet with no concept of what is going on outside your window. You probably look at pixel art and wish you lived in those ethereal planes. The youth are lost in the endless sea of what someone from the 19th century would probably call a dream - internet, games, memes, social media, porn, trending videos, none of them know how to cook but they know how to make glass in Minecraft, it's fucked.

I don't disagree with the fact that a lot of Zoomers are losers, but so what? That's on them to fix, and most don't want to change and losers don't have much of an impact on society anyway. Outside of making sure freaks like the ones posted on this thread don't cyber-molest them, this is a non-issue.

 

[Slav Power]

Peter Scully

don't fedpost don't fedpost don't fedpost do not fedpost do not fedpost do not fucking fedpost I really should NOT fucking fedpost about what I'd do to it and everything that worships it.

If you know what Peter Scully is you should not have a sliver of a doubt that the things that worship that demon aren't ironic, and all the hatred and vitriol you hold towards Scully needs to be held towards anything that worships it, ironic or not.

 

[Sperghetti]

Personally, I don’t think it’s solely “kids raised by the internet” nor is it some sort of conspiracy.

Like others have said, it’s not that we didn’t have shock and gore content back in the early days of the web (rotten.com, etc.), and sending awful stuff to your friends to gross them out has been a time-honored practice (goatse), but there’s definitely a strange combination of self-awareness and irony behind it now that was never there back in the day. I’m not really sure how to better put that.

In a way, I think you could consider Bella Janke to be kind of the Farms’ first introduction to this mindset. She was intentionally sadistic, mean, and gross. She tortured animals, acted like a sex pest, bullied everyone around her, and was the ringleader of a little Discord server with her similarly-minded friends where they talked about and shared all this junk. And at the heart of it all was this weird fixation with being an exaggerated stereotype of 00’s image board culture. She did all that stuff intentionally because she knew it was shitty, and she played it up and bragged about it because she basically wanted to be /b/’s reputation, personified.

I think @LarpBait is onto something, though, that there’s an odd overlap between this sort of nastiness and self-proclaimed “right wing” or “chud” groups.

In a weird way, I can’t help but wonder if it’s that the social atmosphere that these younger people have grown up in has become so hyperbolic about sensitivity that it’s paradoxically stripped the boundaries away from the edgelords. Like if physically attacking someone is assault and if calling them names is equally considered assault, then conversely, physically attacking someone is no worse than calling them names. They don’t have the same hierarchy to negative acts that you or I probably inherently have. Does that make sense?

I have a lot of thoughts on this, but I still have to sort ‘em. Godspeed, @Sprate Header, you seem to be one of the few people taking a serious look under this rock.

 

[LarpBait]

but so what? That's on them to fix, and most don't want to change and losers don't have much of an impact on society anyway. Outside of making sure freaks like the ones posted on this thread don't cyber-molest them, this is a non-issue.

I will refrain from politisperging too hard about this, but this is an absolutely atrocious take, especially given the context of this thread:

Our society is one where we are unfortunately forced to take care of the ill and dangerous, instead of putting harmful criminals to death or exile to save those who are moral from their wrath, we decide to keep them alive, in jails, fed, warm, and without ever actually feeling the danger of their anti-social activities, outside of any crimes committed by other inmates (which are promptly punished as well). Afterwards, we release then in the hopes that they learned their lesson, which for situations like these where the criminals are young and they're effectively immune from actual punishment, often isn't the case. Maybe this arrangement should be how it is, maybe it shouldn't be, what matters more is this is the state of affairs.

Because of this, losers, especially dangerous losers, become a collective responsibility for all of us to foot the bill for. The maladjusted chud at risk of shooting up a Walmart or grooming children is a personal tax burden to all of us if he is ever caught and doesn't end up dead by the end of his crimes. Since this is the case, criminal concerns aren't just an individual issue to be handled in a similar vein to how your personal car insurance is handled, but instead is a collective issues that all of us have to bear the burden for by paying for it. This problem is especially pronounced in Euroamerica/"The West" specially since every criminal bust now has the potential to become a big political discussion (I.e, school shootings ending up bringing up gun control again or pedophile rings being busted causing legislation about "banning encryption"/incuring more privacy violations).

We all must, by merit of our own self interest, work towards preventing it given our current state of affairs. This thread hopefully will lean more on the prevention and education side of this by identifying these people for others to recognize, but I would also hope that they can be successfully removed from society in some fashion as well (but my hopes aren't high).

Even if you don't care about this or don't agree with this line of reasoning, it is still in your best interest that zoomers aren't insane, as there are likely zoomers around you who could victimize you, and you can't isolate yourself from the problem to get away from them. The next SWATting target could target you, the next Roblox grooming ring could go after your children, or the next scam group could target a loved one of yours.

If there really is a proper subculture festering of these evil, sadistic people that's interconnected and identifyable, it's in everyone's interest to understand it and its origin so we all may protect ourselves, prevent others from going into it, and, ideally, removing it from civil society, rather that be by imprisionment, death penalties, or exile.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Like others have said, it’s not that we didn’t have shock and gore content back in the early days of the web (rotten.com, etc.), and sending awful stuff to your friends to gross them out has been a time-honored practice (goatse), but there’s definitely a strange combination of self-awareness and irony behind it now that was never there back in the day. I’m not really sure how to better put that.

In a way, I think you could consider Bella Janke to be kind of the Farms’ first introduction to this mindset. She was intentionally sadistic, mean, and gross. She tortured animals, acted like a sex pest, bullied everyone around her, and was the ringleader of a little Discord server with her similarly-minded friends where they talked about and shared all this junk. And at the heart of it all was this weird fixation with being an exaggerated stereotype of 00’s image board culture. She did all that stuff intentionally because she knew it was shitty, and she played it up and bragged about it because she basically wanted to be /b/’s reputation, personified.

You know, I think this could have something to do with education and how peers were raised, perhaps the access to technology - yet I don't think this is necessarily true. Perhaps something to do with how the kids of today brains are reacting to "just irony" and the lack of consequences for their actions. I don't quite understand. There is a certain factor for their lawlessness that should be considered.

 

[skibidi biden]

The modern right wing is purely reactionary to the modern batshit craziness of woke culture

I really don't like the online right wing(spic fuentes) as someone who is more aligned to the right but the modern day left wing is so fucking batshit crazy it makes nerds with no inherent right wing tendencies gravitate to right wing politics as a means of lashing out

They are right wing only in a way of spiting those who alienated them with things like forced DEI in the school systems or filling their escapism and video games with woke bullshit, in another time line they might just be slightly edgy centrist nerds like was more common in the 2000s

my take on why chuds/alt-right types go towards gross shit is that it is completely reactionary

I genuinely believe a lot of these types would be more left wing if neocons still attempted to censor video games or music like they did in the George W. Bush and Reagan administration

its not very moral or traditional to spam gore or weird porn to shock people