Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[prodigylogic]

Orders just released; looks like we still have not been denied. Not accepted either, though.

 

[Andoxico]

Orders just released; looks like we still have not been denied. Not accepted either, though.

We're scheduled for the May 9th conference. We won't be in any orders before then.

 

[cherrysour]

Not to burst anyone's bubble in advance, but I just want to mention that denial of cert doesn't mean that the Supreme Court thinks that the circuit got it right. You could have a circuit decision where every professor and expert practitioner in the area is like, that is the silliest thing I've ever read and everyone is now dumber for having read it, and the Court still says, cert denied, for whatever reason. I don't want that to happen now; I've just seen it happen.

 

[Null]

Not to burst anyone's bubble in advance, but I just want to mention that denial of cert doesn't mean that the Supreme Court thinks that the circuit got it right. You could have a circuit decision where every professor and expert practitioner in the area is like, that is the silliest thing I've ever read and everyone is now dumber for having read it, and the Court still says, cert denied, for whatever reason. I don't want that to happen now; I've just seen it happen.

We all know this bro. It's one of the first things mentioned, that because the case is stupid they might just say "fuck you, we'll wait for a better case".

 

[AnOminous]

Not to burst anyone's bubble in advance, but I just want to mention that denial of cert doesn't mean that the Supreme Court thinks that the circuit got it right. You could have a circuit decision where every professor and expert practitioner in the area is like, that is the silliest thing I've ever read and everyone is now dumber for having read it, and the Court still says, cert denied, for whatever reason. I don't want that to happen now; I've just seen it happen.

I think it raises an important issue (and gets it wrong enough it could have a negative impact), and that's in favor of granting cert., but it's also such a screwball case I can easily see them choosing to disregard it for now and wait for a better case. On the side, SCOTUS has been somewhat more active in the past decade or two at taking up IP cases, such as their repeated smacking down of the Federal Circuit on stuff like software patents.

 

[cherrysour]

We all know this bro. It's one of the first things mentioned, that because the case is stupid they might just say "fuck you, we'll wait for a better case".

For sure, and I'm just saying that a "better case" might mean more circuit decisions or something unrelated to the logical/moral underpinnings of the Farms' position. I just don't want anyone to give up. I know the feeling of " but I'm RIGHT."

 

[Irene and 22 others]

SCOTUS has been somewhat more active in the past decade or two at taking up IP cases, such as their repeated smacking down of the Federal Circuit on stuff like software patents.

Well this case is patently retarded, if that does anything to help its chances.

 

[Your Starter for 10]

Oh damn, I guess I shouldn't have bet one million dollars that the Supreme Court was going to overturn this case, give the Farms most-favored nation status and have Clarence Thomas choke slam Russ through the top of the cage before giving him a stinkface on live TV.

Oh well, easy come, easy go.

 

[AnOminous]

Oh damn, I guess I shouldn't have bet one million dollars that the Supreme Court was going to overturn this case, give the Farms most-favored nation status and have Clarence Thomas choke slam Russ through the top of the cage before giving him a stinkface on live TV.

Oh well, easy come, easy go.

I will be forever disappointed if Clarence Thomas doesn't make one of his rare appearances in oral arguments to ask Matthew Hardin to explain "What exactly is this sneed thing?"

 

[Belgians in the Congo]

Supreme Court agreed to take up the ATF's "Frame & Receiver" rule today, if they're willing to take up a gun case (huge taboo) then I don't think our odds are that bad.

 

[Napoleon III]

I will say though if the site ever has reason to file another petition for anything I would suggest doing a bit of media "operations". Stuff like having Hardin post about this on Zerohedge, or in any of the media outlets you can get to care. Even social media would be good. Social media is free marketing and even boomer clerks like to Shitpost. One thing I think that can very easily sway the Supreme Court to take a case is media attention. This might be much harder to pull off than I think it is and it might result in nothing but if it is worth filing a petition I think it would be worth trying.

Dear Leader if you are reading this, it isn't criticism of you for not doing this. One can't be faulted for not realizing a better way when they haven't even done it once. If this even is a good idea.

 

[Magnificent Penis]

I will say though if the site ever has reason to file another petition for anything I would suggest doing a bit of media "operations". Stuff like having Hardin post about this on Zerohedge, or in any of the media outlets you can get to care. Even social media would be good. Social media is free marketing and even boomer clerks like to Shitpost. One thing I think that can very easily sway the Supreme Court to take a case is media attention. This might be much harder to pull off than I think it is and it might result in nothing but if it is worth filing a petition I think it would be worth trying.

Dear Leader if you are reading this, it isn't criticism of you for not doing this. One can't be faulted for not realizing a better way when they haven't even done it once. If this even is a good idea.

Other than maybe some fringe fags with no real audience, what journo do you envision would ever do anything positive for Kiwi Farms? The political left is covered because it forces 6 million trannies to commit suicide every year, the political right is covered because it is an evil neo-nazi site that hates our precious, precious chosen, so what kind of media campaign is even possible that could yield any positive results?

 

[The Dude]

I will say though if the site ever has reason to file another petition for anything I would suggest doing a bit of media "operations". Stuff like having Hardin post about this on Zerohedge, or in any of the media outlets you can get to care. Even social media would be good. Social media is free marketing and even boomer clerks like to Shitpost. One thing I think that can very easily sway the Supreme Court to take a case is media attention. This might be much harder to pull off than I think it is and it might result in nothing but if it is worth filing a petition I think it would be worth trying.

Dear Leader if you are reading this, it isn't criticism of you for not doing this. One can't be faulted for not realizing a better way when they haven't even done it once. If this even is a good idea.

Maybe it's time to keep your suggestions to yourself instead of voicing them, because they're pretty fucking retarded. No media outlet is going to say anything about the Farms that's even close to positive or even neutral. The media hate us because we're the mean Nazi site who say gamer words and get trannies to 41% themselves. It would be a waste of time to go to anyone in the media.

 

[Napoleon III]

The idea is to get some people who can positively influence clerks or people around them to a potential case. It, like any Supreme Court Petition, probably wouldn't work but it might raise the odds. If you knew what places clerks tended to congregate on the internet and you could put your message there you would be able to do even more. Even reaching somebody who has a connection to a clerk might be useful. If you are going to spend thousands of dollars filing a petition might as well do everything you can anyway.

Other than maybe some fringe fags with no real audience, what journo do you envision would ever do anything positive for Kiwi Farms?

Notice how I said Hardin should be the one to do this? Obviously you don't talk to Journos. You can also do stuff on social media. Social media is even bigger than regular media nowadays. Dick Masterson made a business out of being sued, and plenty of people on social media need Kahntent and this or any possible future case could fantastically great for that. If there is one thing the site is good at, it is being interesting, it makes sense to try and leverage that.

the political right is covered because it is an evil neo-nazi site that hates our precious, precious chosen

we're the mean Nazi site who say gamer words and get trannies to 41% themselves

This is fucking retarded A&H is a portion of the site and this or any possible future petition might have nothing to do with politics at all. Besides the fact that plenty of commentators on the right don't say gamer words in public but they are influenced by people who do. Did you watch Null's Internet Juche stream? This site cannot survive completely cut off from the world and trying to influence people who might be able to help you is a good idea, and you shouldn't just accept being turned into the Daily Stormer.

What do think the Tech sphere would think of a copyright case like this one? You think they would be happy to see something like this go through? Hardin tried to force Greer to sue Google for a reason. The EFF are a bunch of faggots sure but not everyone is the EFF.

When Sargon had something similar happen to him with a bullshit copyright case a bunch of people came out to support him because they thought it was important.

 

[Harm]

The idea is to get some people who can positively influence clerks or people around them to a potential case.

Seems like a bad idea to me, dawg. You're using Vito logic of "if it even has a 1% chance of working, then we should do it!" Suggesting it has a 1% chance is retardedly generous.

This site cannot survive completely cut off from the world

We just raised $150k+ or so while completely cut off from the world. We can not only survive, but thrive.

 

[The Dude]

@Napoleon III you REALLY need to learn to quit while you're behind instead of continually making a horse's ass of yourself. You've had several people in this thread who have given you the excellent advice of shutting up and lurking for a while. I don't know if you really are this much of a mongoloid, or if you just have a humiliation fetish and this is the only way you can get your rocks off, but you really, REALLY need to shut the fuck up for a while before you end up with your own thread here because someone took an interest in you. This is how lolcows are made, fam.

 

[Andoxico]

I will be forever disappointed if Clarence Thomas doesn't make one of his rare appearances in oral arguments to ask Matthew Hardin to explain "What exactly is this sneed thing?"

Well, your honor, the sign is a subtle joke. The shop is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where feed and seed both end in the sound "-eed", thus rhyming with the name of the owner, Sneed. The sign says that the shop was "Formerly Chuck's", implying that the two words beginning with "F" and "S" would have ended with "-uck", rhyming with "Chuck". So, when Chuck owned the shop, it would have been called "Chuck's Fuck and Suck"

 

[Bill Evans 45]

The idea is to get some people who can positively influence clerks or people around them to a potential case.

Please stop. This is Greer-tier reasoning.

 

[Himedall All-seeing Waifu]

Oh damn, I guess I shouldn't have bet one million dollars that the Supreme Court was going to overturn this case, give the Farms most-favored nation status and have Clarence Thomas choke slam Russ through the top of the cage before giving him a stinkface on live TV.

Oh well, easy come, easy go.

We just need Rekieta to wish Null's case a million dollars... It is like the reverse anti-charm because he apparently has the Fecal Touch where everything turns to shite.

Or Trump can just tweet '#GamerGate' and save us all...

The idea is to get some people who can positively influence clerks or people around them to a potential case. It, like any Supreme Court Petition, probably wouldn't work but it might raise the odds. If you knew what places clerks tended to congregate on the internet and you could put your message there you would be able to do even more. Even reaching somebody who has a connection to a clerk might be useful. If you are going to spend thousands of dollars filing a petition might as well do everything you can anyway.

The 6-degrees-of-sepration is theoretical and not practical to use. How do you target someone connected to a justice or clerk? This is some CIA/MI5 level fuckery, and I would be they fail most of the time too.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

One thing I think that can very easily sway the Supreme Court to take a case is media attention.

This actually reminded me of something. Parts of the Supreme Court are trying to make it so that the cases that get media attention don't get reviewed. Majority of SCOTUS rejected this, but that still is an interesting clique forming among the justices. "Fourth, the dissent contends that we should exercise special “caution” when considering whether to intervene in “high-profile cases.” [...] Nor does it explain why we should reserve an added new measure of caution for “high profile” matters alone. I would have thought that, as judges, we should neither deliberately seek out nor evade “high-profile” disputes, but afford all litigants who come before us their lawful due" See Labrador v. Poe, 601 U. S. ___, ___ (2024) (Gorsuch, J., concurring in the grant of stay)