Gardening and Plant Thread

[Rotter]

I hope they'll all survive. Not sure about the Oregano tho.

 

[McLean Deluxe]

Also need anti possum and raccoon countermeasures.

Get an electric fence. You can get a very cheap electric fence Rural King or other farm supply store. I fenced in a 1/16th acre plot with one last year and never had an animal get past it, and I know they tried. The solar system for powering it totally works as well, and if you just get those cheap plastic posts you can pick them all up and store them in a shed till next year. By far the best animal control solution, and it should only cost about 100 bucks for the amount of space you are dealing with.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

Two of my pings have rotted, the rest are perking up, and there's white mold on my ping rock

 

[Spitz]

Happy Easter

I've transplanted a couple of times with some of these. I'm still seeing some edema on some of them, and I have sunburn on some others that weren't hardened enough before being in direct sunlight. I've lost a few to damping off, but I've had others that scarred and recovered. The banana peppers started putting on blossoms, so I've been picking those off. I'll be potting up with many more over the next few weeks; once I've set up more tables.

Transplanting five plants from a 3" pot
Score the top, cross-shape in this case

Break up the roots at the bottom. Bore a hole from the bottom and top, carefully

Tear the dirt between two plants on one side, roll it out, get the roots divided

Pot in wet starter mix, neem oil is added to a gallon bottle of distilled water before soaking the mix, to fight fungus gnats/bacteria/fungus

I've lost a few this way. The roots didn't take in the new pot. But I've also lost some that were started one to a cell and looked perfectly healthy.

Like some of these

These ones are doing okay, but I've had some singles that died from God knows what.

Here's another grouping of hybrids that I transplanted, along with a close up of the secondary roots


Here are the ones that I transplanted recently. The bananas were putting on blossoms because they outgrew the 3" pot.



These are the ones that got sunburned. Got about two dozen of those, with varying degrees of damage


Severe damping off. If this were grown outside, the wind would shred that stem.


I'll be topping/pruning the larger ones in a month or so, before they go outside.

I meant, there will be a lot of hot peppers to eat, and that's what happens after you eat them, ring of fire.

Oh ok. On the way out. That nuclear dookie. I got'chu. I'm so far off(at least 100 days) from getting ripe peppers that all I could think of was the skin burn that these lights can cause. I have been burned working too long under them without protection.

I’d heard that flytraps are more trouble than they’re worth, but this one has done alright despite myself. It even managed to bud this month! Maybe it’s just very lucky.
Here it is, pre-nippening:

Beautiful. The ones I had were tall, between 4-8", single shoots. They did okay with the little bugs that flew around the house, the ones the house spiders didn't get, and sometimes I'd give it a little squirt of low-rate fertilizer. They don't like chitinous bugs. I fed one a roly-poly and it didn't like that.

Which grow lights are you using, if you don't mind? It seems like a lot of them are either chinesium that doesn't deliver their claims or plain overpriced

I use Spider Farmer SF2000 and SF3000. Vivosun are a little bit cheaper, but I've never used them. These have worked well over the past few years. I've gotten the distance and strength figured out to the point where I don't burn up all the plants.

VFTs get oversold as some kind of pest annihilating machine when in reality they can only eat so many things before their traps die or are burnt from not being able to form a perfect seal. Personally I like my sarracenias more because as long as they have water they can survive 110 degree summers and will always have bug mulch in them. I like to also feed all of my carnivores diluted maxsea. It’s a gentle 16-16-16 and all you need is a syringe and you can feed almost any carnivores except bladderworts and corkscrews.

I used to feed some of the plants like that. The pitcher plants and flypaper plants liked smaller bugs around the house and from outside, e.g. fruit flies, gnats, aphids. Honestly, I gave my carnivores away to people that were interested in them, but didn't want to start from scratch and have to worry about killing the plants when potting up and building/transferring terrariums. I was being facetious for comedic purpose. Although, I did have a bladderwort that outgrew the glass vase and knocked the lid off. It was a little funny seeing that.

 

[Yandex Captcha Solver]

So my plans have completely spiraled from just growing tomatoes and tobacco. Into growing tomatoes, tobacco, peppers, carrots, mung beans, cabbage, mint, lettuce, brussel sprouts, chives, and blackberries. Found out eBay was a really good source for cheap seeds so spent a whole 35 bucks on seeds. Clover and mung beans making up $20 of that.

Sowed my entire garden with white clover after the final tilling. This will help with nitrogen, keep weeds down, and help with some soil compaction I have. Have a ton of dead trees around the property, so am building some hugelkultur beds from rotten trees to help claim more garden space. Will plant mung beans and clover in them. This will be a good first year crop for them as rotting trees use a lot of nitrogen. Am a few months behind on the beds though, they should built in the fall.

I have a ton of russian olive I need to kill. I've cut most of it down in the past, but didn't know cutting it only pisses it off. You need to apply glyphosphate concentrate directly on the stumps, not the dark woody center, but where the white growth hits the bark. Wish I knew this when I spent a few days doing this a few years ago. The good thing is it is a fast rotting wood, so I'll have enough wood for as many hugelkultur beds I could desire. Here's a more detailed rundown for anyone dealing with it https://youtu.be/bN0HfFc2e-4. I'm keeping a few around though to try out their fruit in the fall.

I've got two trays of sprouted tobacco seeds that will need to be thinned in a week or two. Tomato, pepper, brussel sprout seeds are being sprouted in ziplock bags with a wet paper towel sitting on top of my fridge compressor. These will be transplanted into tray once they sprout. Blackberry seeds are an experiment, they can take a few months to sprout. So they are sitting in a ziplock bag with wet paper towels in my fridge. Figured if one sprouts, I'll come out ahead vs buying cuttings, though I'll have to wait till next year to get a harvest.

Found a local source for rabbits. Finishing up the hugelkultur beds though before getting them. Then I'll need to setup a hutch, still undecided if I'm going with a tractor or traditional hutches. Picked up half a pound of red worms for a compost farm. If I start to get too many worms reproducing, I'll throw them on my hugelkultur beds to help there.

Should be a very busy spring and summer. Thanks for reading my blog post.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Even though around here you are never safe until Mother’s Day, I transplanted some longneck and Mexican squashes into larger pots to give them a head start because they fucking love our area. Like, given how previous years went my four plants should be cranking out more veggies than we can eat when they mature.
I used a basic 5/5/5 fertilizer because my friend recommended that to me, so I’m interested to see how these plants go.

 

[Hepativore]

So, I am an '80s kid, and for those of us who can remember the '80s or have nostalgia for the decade are aware that neon fuschia/magenta was one of the signature colors of the decade, especially with the rise of synthwave which echoes the fascination with that particular color.

Anyway, I am looking for a recommendation for a rose that comes in this color. Hybrid tea roses hate the winters in my climate, and they are prone to diseases as they are like the inbred dogs of the rose world, and I much prefer floribundas/grandifloras.

Can anybody recommend a floribunda/grandiflora that comes in this color? It must also have a scent since growing a rose with no fragrance seems like it partially defeats the purpose of having a rose. Here is what I am using as a reference:

 

[Honored guest]

So, I am an '80s kid, and for those of us who can remember the '80s or have nostalgia for the decade are aware that neon fuschia/magenta was one of the signature colors of the decade, especially with the rise of synthwave which echoes the fascination with that particular color.

Anyway, I am looking for a recommendation for a rose that comes in this color. Hybrid tea roses hate the winters in my climate, and they are prone to diseases as they are like the inbred dogs of the rose world, and I much prefer floribundas/grandifloras.

Can anybody recommend a floribunda/grandiflora that comes in this color? It must also have a scent since growing a rose with no fragrance seems like it partially defeats the purpose of having a rose. Here is what I am using as a reference:

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Finding something that intense will be hard, alot of pictures on advertisements tend to increase saturation, so while you realistically won't get an intense hot pink, there are pink roses out there. While I'm no expert on roses A quick search found https://www.knockoutroses.com/the-pink-double-knock-out-rose it looks hardy, however it isn't fragrant.

Here are a couple of lists I found that provide some more info on rose varieties, maybe you'll find one that fits your climate/area well.

https://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to/grow-plants/pink-roses/

https://www.epicgardening.com/pink-rose-varieties/

Wish I could be of more help, but it looks like roses are lousy with boomer tier photoshop scams with the amount of intense colors and claims I'm finding.

 

[Bassomatic]

My strawberries are coming back to life!!! My dad got this fancy promix or some shit, that has antifugal behavior in it. He said has some to spare I plan on using it for my herbs. This time of year in my area, lol I bought a big ass basil plant for 2.49 cheaper than a sprig and hopefully will take. If not it paid for itself.

 

[Hepativore]

I got a recommendation from somebody in a PM to take a look at a floribunda called "Intrigue". While many photographs show it as being exactly the color I am looking for, other photographs show it as being more of a purplish color. Photographing flowers is not easy, as the time of day dramatically alters the appearance of many plants because of how much light is present, and many roses lighten in color as the flower ages after a few days. Still, Intrigue is supposed to be noteworthy for its potent fragrance, so that is also a plus.









By the way, I would be curious to know what the ratio of men to women is in here. Gardening and plants have traditionally been regarded as a "women's hobby" and I am not sure why. I am a guy, and I always thought it was fun to fuck around with growing odd plants that you normally never see or hear about just because you could and you can literally choose flowers from every color of the rainbow.

 

[AnOminous]

By the way, I would be curious to know what the ratio of men to women is in here. Gardening and plants have traditionally been regarded as a "women's hobby" and I am not sure why. I am a guy, and I always thought it was fun to fuck around with growing odd plants that you normally never see or hear about just because you could and you can literally choose flowers from every color of the rainbow.

I don't know. Of the people I know who garden I think they're about roughly split, although often it's something like a married couple, where the woman is mainly directing the activity but the man is happy to help out weeding and other things, like the initial rototilling and setting up the fence. The last time I had a real garden it was shared with a neighbor woman (unfortunately she died).

 

[Bassomatic]

I will never understand how some of these hobbies got tied to a sex, there's something really primal about getting dirt under your finger nails. For me when I first got into this stuff like doing it my self was to have access to more herbs etc because I like cooking...somehow also girly?

Like anything else as you explore it enjoy it and have room you'll want more and more. I'm also a hippy in some ways and Nature makes me happy, plants are cool. Mrs Basso couldn't give a fuck and she's not even picky enough to notice or care when the basil etc is picked right off the plant and tossed into something.

Because this is current year +9 and online, I do feel the need to state, I am a male, with a penis one I'm fond of and plan to keep. Regarding this both my folks like plants, my dad has a collection of orchids that's too high strung for me! My mom is more my side, plants are cool but grow your own food but she's also big into bees so anything that they like gets planted lol.

I dated a girl who was so bad with plants, as many joke "succulents thrive off neglect" she babied them and they died all the time.We had this huge spider ivy in our apartment it was a converted factory so the rooms were huge despite being a small place, this thing legit circled out living room/kitchen a few times probably 100+ feet of it. Fond memories of a bad relationship. She loved plants had a few catci and living in a major city she swore they kept the air clean and we were safe despite the diesel trucks vomiting all into our place.

 

[Mesh Gear Fox]

I'm a guy as well. I guess I've just always enjoyed working with plants. My grandparents were really big in to their gardens, maybe that had an influence on me as a kid. They used to grow all these different roses, it was incredible. I just think a lot of flowers are beautiful. I'm really enjoying my tulips that are in bloom right now.

 

[Freshly Baked Socks]

I am a guy. And I have touched on the gender & gardening issue with my boomer aunt. No matter how liberated and modern she tries to be, while we are sharing experiences about gardening and flowers, she can't help but comment that she simply assumes horticulture and gathering berries has been a traditionally female activity.

I have worked hard to bite my tongue and not say that sandwich making and shutting up has also been a traditionally female concern.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

I'm a woman. I know two men who have done anything with plants at all. One watered a plastic plant for a year. The other wanted to get rid of some weeds in his lawn so he doused the entire lawn in weed killer, killing huge patches of the lawn.

 

[Honored guest]

I got a recommendation from somebody in a PM to take a look at a floribunda called "Intrigue". While many photographs show it as being exactly the color I am looking for, other photographs show it as being more of a purplish color. Photographing flowers is not easy, as the time of day dramatically alters the appearance of many plants because of how much light is present, and many roses lighten in color as the flower ages after a few days. Still, Intrigue is supposed to be noteworthy for its potent fragrance, so that is also a plus.

By the way, I would be curious to know what the ratio of men to women is in here. Gardening and plants have traditionally been regarded as a "women's hobby" and I am not sure why. I am a guy, and I always thought it was fun to fuck around with growing odd plants that you normally never see or hear about just because you could and you can literally choose flowers from every color of the rainbow.

I'm happy you found a rose to your liking.
I'm a guy. My experience with gardening has has a majority of gardeners being older, with women making up a slight majority. Trying to find anyone under the age of 40 that gardens is hard, and under 30 might as well not exist. The few fellow "young" gardeners I've met were all men and were really into it even more so than I am.
Going to the local gardening groups feels like bingo night at an old folks home.

 

[Spitz]

The sunburnt peppers are recovering, and the hardening off process has slowed down because of goofy weather patterns. It's gonna be slow getting these outdoors and settled into their final growing places.

New growth looks okay. Some of the hardest hit ones dropped a bunch of leaves, but bounced back about the same.

This is what damping off/stem rot looks like after healing:

Pulling the soil away from the stem to let it dry out and scar over is what I do when I see damage like this:

This is severe, and this plant might not recover. It's wobbly as Hell, so I have to be very careful with it. I've had some plants come through this and put on a few pounds of fruit, but this is the furthest from ideal. Prevention is key, but sometimes there are things I can't prevent. Even with hydrogen peroxide sterilization, all new pots and soil mix, close attention to hygiene, and gloves, I still had fungus/bacteria get in there, or come from something in the soil mixture, e.g. perlite, vermiculite, castings, etc..

The chinense have gone about a month since being transplanted into bigger pots. They're a little leggy, bendy, and wobbly, but they look okay for growing inside under LED. No major issues. That's another reason they're my favorite. Hardier than the rest.


I haven't topped any plants yet. Not sure if I will. Time will tell.

The annuum aren't looking as good. Leggy and more edema. The bananas look terrible, but they'll come through it. I've seen and worked with worse.

Curly leaf is edema. Bubbling on the underside of this leaf is edema.

I pulled an open blossom off of one of the banana plants.

Way too early for that.

Cayenne plants are leggy. Nothing new there. Lots-o-stakes for 'em later.



The young ones will put out little nubbins below the cotyledons. Bury those in soil and they'll take root to anchor the plant. Mooring lines, if you will.

You can see some of the roots that had shot off from the nubbins, to anchor. I still gotta be extremely careful when handling these.

Can't wait to get outside.

 

[Rakovnik]

I got 3 or 4 acres tilled up this week right before a bunch of rain hit, I'm hoping it dries out soon so I can till it again to break up the grass clumps. This is all going to be seeded with an orchard grass mix for better horse hay.
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I ended up tilling this 3 times to get everything pulverized enough for my seeder to work on it. Last week I got the seed put down, 2 acres of cow pasture mix and 1 acre of horse mix.

Here's the cow pasture mix I used



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For @Hepativore 's gender poll, I'm a guy, I always assumed this thread is closer to 50/50 while the houseplants thread is a majority women. That's just my experience, I did landscape work for a while and women were always more interested when it came to plants.

Trying to find anyone under the age of 40 that gardens is hard, and under 30 might as well not exist.

Tell me about it, I'm in my 20s and working full time on restoring and maintaining my ~200 year old family farm. Gardening is a small part of what I do, most of my time is spent on hay, chickens, or fixing things. Most people aren't fortunate enough to be in a position like that, I can understand why they wouldn't want to come home from a job to work more.

 

[Lichen Bark]

Gardener census 2024: I'm not a smart man, but I know what love is plants like.

Spoiler

Good news though, more of my family has started gardening, and it's nice to have some people to share tips and tricks with. GARDENERS RISE UP!

Terrible edit on the background, sorry

The edited background really makes it look like you're in some kind of Minecraft world.

 

[Hepativore]

I ended up tilling this 3 times to get everything pulverized enough for my seeder to work on it. Last week I got the seed put down, 2 acres of cow pasture mix and 1 acre of horse mix.

Here's the cow pasture mix I used
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For @Hepativore 's gender poll, I'm a guy, I always assumed this thread is closer to 50/50 while the houseplants thread is a majority women. That's just my experience, I did landscape work for a while and women were always more interested when it came to plants.


Tell me about it, I'm in my 20s and working full time on restoring and maintaining my ~200 year old family farm. Gardening is a small part of what I do, most of my time is spent on hay, chickens, or fixing things. Most people aren't fortunate enough to be in a position like that, I can understand why they wouldn't want to come home from a job to work more.

One roadbloack a lot of people have is not having the space to grow anything. Unlike where I used to live, my current landlord does not allow tenants to grow anything as he does not want us digging up his six acre lot for garden plots.

I am trying to put together a list of the plants I want as well as the plants I used to have for when I am able to afford a house and land one day. I do not need a very big house as I want to live by myself, but I want a large lot to grow my experiments on...as I did not only grow flowers, but fruit trees as well, and decent plums and peaches are almost impossible to get in the grocery store...not to mention I want to grow nut trees like butternuts and odd fruits like quince and the Paw Paw/Michigan Banana.

Anyway, I will make a recommendation for all of us here...those of you who are growing roses should take a look at David Austin roses. Not only do they come in a wide array of colors, the breeders make a point of also selecting for fragrance, as this is an often overlooked but important aspect of growing roses.

Spoiler: The '80s will never die...