The Holocaust Thread - The Great Debate Between Affirmers, Revisionists and Deniers

Some ~8 million Red Army soldiers died fighting Germany. The Red Army inflicted nearly 80% of all German casualties during the war. Nobody sacrificed more defeating the Nazis than the Soviet Union did. Objective fact.

Tell me why the Jews were somehow more important.
N.B. a majority of German losses were in the final eighteen months of the war. So "inflicted 80% of German casualties " means "butchering a fuckton of grandpas and Cub Scouts." And we know open-ended rape and slaughter were the Soviets' real specialty, you don't need to tell us.
 
I was told this all through school. Is there actually any evidence that disabled German people were rounded up and taken off to the incinerators?
Actually, most who were executed were probably killed via lethal injections. Only a relatively small number of those may have been gassed. And not all disabled Germans were targeted, only those with apparently severe cognitive disabilities. Regardless, all severe mental illnesses were defined as racial defects. If everyone here were around in 1938 Germany, authorities would have treated us as racial inferiors. There is no disputing the German state's horrendous discrimination against autists and other retards. You wouldn't disagree with this statement, would you?
 
Actually, most who were executed were probably killed via lethal injections. Only a relatively small number of those may have been gassed. And not all disabled Germans were targeted, only those with apparently severe cognitive disabilities. Regardless, all severe mental illnesses were defined as racial defects. If everyone here were around in 1938 Germany, authorities would have treated us as racial inferiors. There is no disputing the German state's horrendous discrimination against autists and other retards. You wouldn't disagree with this statement, would you?

I've no idea. I'm too lazy to read a book. That's why I'm asking.

Already from what you've said though, it doesn't seem as bad as I'd been led to believe. I thought they'd been setting fire to kids with alopecia. Now I know they administered lethal injections to people with severe cognitive impairments. Was this done with the family's consent?
 
Was this done with the family's consent?
Sometimes, but usually not. And since few if any of these autistic children ever had access to treatment, it would have appeared, to anyone of that day, as a severe case and serious enough to warrant taking them away. Most mentally deficient men and women were simply sterilized, which isn't the worse outcome. You have to remember that at the time other European states and even a few American states also practiced limited sterilization of the retarded and imprisoned. All the Germans were doing was taking eugenicist thought to it's logical conclusion.
 
N.B. a majority of German losses were in the final eighteen months of the war. So "inflicted 80% of German casualties " means "butchering a fuckton of grandpas and Cub Scouts." And we know open-ended rape and slaughter were the Soviets' real specialty, you don't need to tell us.
Ah yes, the Soviets actually did nothing I remember this narrative.

Care to share your ethnicity or religious background with the class?
 
You've done more to harm the white race than the average Jew lol
I do not push a religion whose first act to a boy is to cut up and suck his penis, so no actually.
??? Are you a pedophile?
Nah, I'm not even a pedophile defender like all Jews. Remember Christianity has split multiple times over the treatment of people yet jews defend their pedophile Rabbis more than the Catholics defend theirs.
1. What he said trips a couple red flags in my head. It's so fucking bizarre, creepy, and suspicious.
2. I've seen a few extreme jewhaters here on the Farms outed as pedophiles like @Forgetful Gynn, @Blasterman, @Night Crawler, and I remember @John.Doe calling a 14 year old girl, who killed the man who raped her, a murderous whore. Of course, that's not to suggest all or even most antisemites are pedophiles. I'm sure plenty of them have normal sexualities and don't rape children or condone it. But you must admit, there is an awful lot of overlap between gross extremism and odd proclivities.
3. You're gay. No offense. :)
You wouldn't know a red flag if it was a white handkerchief stained after sucking a babies dick.
I was told this all through school. Is there actually any evidence that disabled German people were rounded up and taken off to the incinerators? Are there any first hand accounts from blond-haired blue-eyed krauts describing how their crippled son was wheeled away in the middle of the night?

"Are you going to Disney Land? Not with those buckled legs your not. Muhahaha"

Even wikipedia has a hard time trying to make it sound like genocide when it was a bunch of people who only survived with 24/7 care, whose caretakers were lookint for some sort of reprieve.
I've no idea. I'm too lazy to read a book. That's why I'm asking.

Already from what you've said though, it doesn't seem as bad as I'd been led to believe. I thought they'd been setting fire to kids with alopecia. Now I know they administered lethal injections to people with severe cognitive impairments. Was this done with the family's consent?
Yes and no, it was a mercy to many vegetables and people were originally for it, but they put a stop to it after public outcry (so evil)
 
Actually, most who were executed were probably killed via lethal injections. Only a relatively small number of those may have been gassed. And not all disabled Germans were targeted, only those with apparently severe cognitive disabilities. Regardless, all severe mental illnesses were defined as racial defects. If everyone here were around in 1938 Germany, authorities would have treated us as racial inferiors. There is no disputing the German state's horrendous discrimination against autists and other retards. You wouldn't disagree with this statement, would you?
You disagreed with yourself at the start of the paragraph, what more needs to be said.
 
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Ah yes, the Soviets actually did nothing I remember this narrative.

Care to share your ethnicity or religious background with the class?
"Bro slaughtering a bunch of cannon fodder isn't that great an achievement. "

"Ah, so what you really mean is that I didn't do anything at all?"

Though to be fair, this is a nice microcosm oh holocaust discourse. "These numbers don't add up"/"why do you hate Jews?"
 
"Bro slaughtering a bunch of cannon fodder isn't that great an achievement. "

"Ah, so what you really mean is that I didn't do anything at all?"

Though to be fair, this is a nice microcosm oh holocaust discourse. "These numbers don't add up"/"why do you hate Jews?"
Delusional and ignorant.

The Eastern Front was many times larger than the Western Front. Operation Barabarossa was the largest land invasion in the war, if not ever. The idea that durr everyone the Soviets killed were civilians is objectively false. Over a million German soldiers were killed on the Eastern Front. By the Red Army.

Like its not even worth discussing, its just blind ignorance. The West has deepthroated is own mythology on this narrative. Things like "they just killed grandpas and labor corps!" or "Lend Lease won the war for the Soviets!"
 
Delusional and ignorant.

The Eastern Front was many times larger than the Western Front. Operation Barabarossa was the largest land invasion in the war, if not ever. The idea that durr everyone the Soviets killed were civilians is objectively false. Over a million German soldiers were killed on the Eastern Front. By the Red Army.

Like its not even worth discussing, its just blind ignorance. The West has deepthroated is own mythology on this narrative. Things like "they just killed grandpas and labor corps!" or "Lend Lease won the war for the Soviets!"
If thr kill percentage was what you claim, given thr breakdown of what the Germans lost, any other conclusion isn't just implausible, it is mathematically impossible. So, yes, delusional, but not the way you think.

But I'm sure the accounts of the famously transparent and honest Soviets are to be believed. This is right up there in obviousness with "hey, we found this network of crimes against humanity factories whose distribution corresponds precisely with our occupation zone."
 
I remember @John.Doe calling a 14 year old girl, who killed the man who raped her, a murderous whore.
Typical example of the ways that lies and deception through omission have been used for decades, in this case we have two lies packed together in an emotionally charged statement. First, Cyntonia Brown was 16 at the time, and second, she executed a sleeping man she'd never met before who had, according to the evidence and by her own admission never laid a hand on her. She shot a man in the back of his head, robbed his home, tried to frame other people, and did it all for her boyfriend/pimp/dealer Kut-Throat. She was convicted of murder after confessing to her crimes, stating "I executed him" and saying she did it "just to see how it felt to kill somebody."

Cyntonia Brown was, in fact, a whore and she was convicted of murder. We know that she's a murderess and a whore by her own confession. Wrap up contrary lies in emotionally charged language and cynically depend on people's laziness and snap judgement to overwhelm the truth.

Its why they have the bullshit about lampshades and lollercoasters, all just emotionally charged and ridiculous lies to avoid talking about the truth.

"Lend Lease won the war for the Soviets!"

Without the help from the Wheelchair Commie in the White House, the Soviets would have been trying to maneuver with horses, mules, and marching. The American trucks and petrol through Lend-Lease are the only reason that the German advantage in mobility and speed didn't win the day for the forces of good in that conflict.
 
Typical example of the ways that lies and deception through omission have been used for decades, in this case we have two lies packed together in an emotionally charged statement. First, Cyntonia Brown was 16 at the time, and second, she executed a sleeping man she'd never met before who had, according to the evidence and by her own admission never laid a hand on her. She shot a man in the back of his head, robbed his home, tried to frame other people, and did it all for her boyfriend/pimp/dealer Kut-Throat. She was convicted of murder after confessing to her crimes, stating "I executed him" and saying she did it "just to see how it felt to kill somebody."

Cyntonia Brown was, in fact, a whore and she was convicted of murder. We know that she's a murderess and a whore by her own confession. Wrap up contrary lies in emotionally charged language and cynically depend on people's laziness and snap judgement to overwhelm the truth.
Oh okay I was wrong. Thank you for correcting me. Edit: Wait, so she was being pimped out to pedophiles? How do you know she didn't confess to the charges just to avoid the death penalty? By her own confession later on she claims she did nothing wrong. And other girls who worked at a nearby restaurant claim Allen would hit on them despite obviously being underage. I don't believe she was honest about every claim she made, but you are being deeply intolerant of anyone who disagrees with your racially-minded reasoning. Almost makes me want to make shit up just to bother you thinned skinned faggots like you. Almost. Good thing I'm not like you.
Its why they have the bullshit about lampshades and lollercoasters, all just emotionally charged and ridiculous lies to avoid talking about the truth.
To be fair, you are always pushing your fetish in everyone's face at all times. It's easy to distrust gay spergs like you.
You wrap up your arguments in emotional bullshit all the time though. Right now, you're lying about the lampshade thing. Some men and women who had been imprisoned in those camps testified about the lampshades because they believed the guards weren't joking. If you were treated awfully because of your race, deprived of all you own, imprisoned, and then the guards started talking about turning you and your people into lampshades and bars of soap, you'd cry about it too.
 
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You disagreed with yourself at the start of the paragraph, what more needs to be said.
If an autist never receives proper help, he or she will appear far worse. When I say apparently severe, I'm not talking about vegetables, I'm talking about kids who cannot speak intelligibly because they never received any speech therapy; kids who cannot control their emotions or are somewhat intellectually stunted. Their symptoms make them look worse than they really are. They're not completely retarded, they just need more help than the average kid to be as functional as they can be. Do you have any experience with helping children like that?
 
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