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What do you think of harems as a lifestyle? That is where one wealthy and powerfl person (of either gender) has a willing stable of attractive people who love them. Good thing? bad?
Harems?
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Socking isn't allowed here, ADK.
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Would probably suck to be a eunuch, but then again, it's not like they can get blue balls.
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Sounds like the perfect way to get murdered by a group of scorned concubines.
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This paper says pretty much everything that needs to be said about it.
State-endorsed polygamy is a result of and contributor to massive wealth inequality. It directly leads to social unrest by creating large pools of unmarried males which provably correlates to violent crime; encouraging earlier acquisition of valuable females due to uneven uptake of them by high-status males (so it normalizes or incentivizes child marriages and much earlier marriages for all women); creating ripe environments for child abuse especially by co-wives who are not blood related to the children they live with; increasing the birth rate which as we all know the planet cannot sustain; and discouraging investment of funds in productive methods in favour of pursuing social status by acquiring more women.
As global wealth inequality grows I think we'll actually see more social push to normalize polygamous behaviours even in the West. Splitting a partner's time with someone else and competing with them for resources like spousal attention is a terrible deal for women and a really terrible one for kids, but women will accept it if they don't perceive better deals around, hence polyamory.
State-endorsed polygamy is a result of and contributor to massive wealth inequality. It directly leads to social unrest by creating large pools of unmarried males which provably correlates to violent crime; encouraging earlier acquisition of valuable females due to uneven uptake of them by high-status males (so it normalizes or incentivizes child marriages and much earlier marriages for all women); creating ripe environments for child abuse especially by co-wives who are not blood related to the children they live with; increasing the birth rate which as we all know the planet cannot sustain; and discouraging investment of funds in productive methods in favour of pursuing social status by acquiring more women.
As global wealth inequality grows I think we'll actually see more social push to normalize polygamous behaviours even in the West. Splitting a partner's time with someone else and competing with them for resources like spousal attention is a terrible deal for women and a really terrible one for kids, but women will accept it if they don't perceive better deals around, hence polyamory.
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If there's a sexual imbalabce in a marraige, there's no reason it can't be corrected via, as Dan Savage likes to say, "being whores for eachother." Set up regular dates for sex on your calendar, and stick to said schedule. Failing that? Prostitutes for men, and tennis instructors for women.
Once said alternate means of sexual gratification are on the table, the social costs of harems are impossible for any half-civilised country to withstand. If your only care is sexual gratification, stick to bars and whores, and don't bother with marraige.
Once said alternate means of sexual gratification are on the table, the social costs of harems are impossible for any half-civilised country to withstand. If your only care is sexual gratification, stick to bars and whores, and don't bother with marraige.
Anyone who's a big enough cuck to be in a hetero marraige with one woman and multiple dudes will never have enough sex appeal to make it last.
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You ever seen Mormon wives?
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This is one of those situations where I'm all in favour of consenting adults doing whatever they like in the privacy of their own home/business whatever, so if they want to have multiple partners then that's fine by me, so long as the Christian conservatve B&B owner doesn't have to take their weekend break booking if they're not comfortable with large groups sharing a room or something like that.
The fact that everyone in these types of relationships always seem to be fundamentally unhappy makes me think they're a bad idea, and I'd definitely discourage friends and family from taking part in that kind of setup, but morally I don't see the issue.
The fact that everyone in these types of relationships always seem to be fundamentally unhappy makes me think they're a bad idea, and I'd definitely discourage friends and family from taking part in that kind of setup, but morally I don't see the issue.
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Well, you might think that something that always seems to make people unhappy is immoral, all things being equal.
Like, if I can take either action A or B and the only difference is action A makes everyone unhappy, it seems like it'd be immoral for me to cause unnecessary unhappiness.
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There's more than one kind of immorality. There's personal morality that governs one's own personal behavior and that can generally not be enforced on society at large, and there is universal morality that can be, generally when it causes harm to others. Sexual morality is somewhere in between, in that it does impact society, but is (generally) considered the business of the people engaging in it and (mostly) beyond justifiable interference by others.
So while I generally disapprove of this kind of sexual conduct and consider it, in a sense, "immoral," it's not really my business to tell others they can't engage in it, although I might say I think they shouldn't, and offer opinions such as "It'll all end in tears."
There is also a countervailing principle that if people prefer to do something, they should be allowed to do it even if it is absolutely certain that it will make them unhappy. Some people prefer not to be happy.
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In paper/fiction: Sounds nice
In reality: Not much feasible. (At most you'll get a FFFM foursome for a harem.)
In reality: Not much feasible. (At most you'll get a FFFM foursome for a harem.)
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I can personally disapprove, or think it's a bad idea but until their actions are directly impacting my life somehow, then morality doesn't come into it. Drinking alcohol is a bad idea, eating too much is a bad idea, smoking weed is a bad idea, spending all day masturbating to hentai is a bad idea, but if someone does these things behind closed doors in the comfort and privacy of their own space then I have no room to complain. I can judge them, I can decide someone who does these things is not someone I want to do business with or employ, or otherwise associate with, but I can't force my will onto those people. To do so would be morally reprehensible.
Basically this.
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I don't really care if people are polyamorous. It's none of my business and as long as it's between consenting adults I don't have a problem with it.
But polygamy (that is, being married to multiple people) leaves a bad taste in mouth. It seems to always consist of an older man basically collecting (usually much younger) women as wives. I think the number of cases involving consenting adults who all want to be married to each other is very low.
But polygamy (that is, being married to multiple people) leaves a bad taste in mouth. It seems to always consist of an older man basically collecting (usually much younger) women as wives. I think the number of cases involving consenting adults who all want to be married to each other is very low.
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Another of the aspects of it is that since only the first marriage is legal, the other women (or underage girls) are considered single and often fraudulently obtain welfare benefits. This is how many of those polygamist FLDS pedo cults support themselves, by massive welfare fraud. So taxpayers get to subsidize a bunch of incestuous child molesters, who then go on to create horribly inbred children with massive outbreaks of inherited genetic diseases like fumarase deficiency. Then these kids are, of course, themselves massive burdens on welfare since they're completely disabled.