UK ‘Chestfeeding’ to be banned in NHS crackdown - The health service is to limit trans ideology with new constitution

The NHS is to crack down on transgender ideology in hospitals, with terms like “chestfeeding” set to be banned.

Victoria Atkins, the Health Secretary, will this week announce a series of changes to the NHS constitution which sets out patients’ rights.

Referring to “people who have ovaries” rather than “women” will also be prohibited under plans to ensure hospitals use clear language based on biological sex.

The new constitution will ban transgender women from being treated on single-sex female hospital wards to ensure women and girls receive “privacy and protection” in hospitals.

Patients will also be given the right to request that intimate care is carried out by someone of the same biological sex.

It follows concerns from patients about biological men being allowed in women’s hospital wards. NHS guidance has previously stated that trans patients could be placed in single-sex wards on the basis of the gender with which they identified.

Kemi Badenoch, the women and equalities minister, has backed calls for a public inquiry into the “pervasive influence” of transgender ideology in the NHS.

The new NHS constitution will emphasise the importance of using “sex-specific” language in the health service after references to women were expunged from advice on the menopause and diseases such as cervical and ovarian cancer.

A government source said: “The Government has been clear that biological sex matters, and women and girls are entitled to receive the protection and privacy they need in all healthcare settings.

“Our proposed updates to the NHS constitution will give patients the right to request same-sex intimate care and accommodation to protect their safety, privacy and dignity.”

The document sets out the rights of patients and medical staff. All NHS bodies, as well as private and third-sector providers that supply NHS services, are required by law to take it into account when making decisions. The changes proposed this week will be subject to an eight-week consultation.

The updated constitution will state that placing transgender patients in single-room accommodation does not contravene equality laws as long as it is for an appropriate reason, such as respecting a patient’s wish to be in a single-sex ward.

Maya Forstater, chief executive of the campaign group Sex Matters, said the changes represent a “major step” towards reversing NHS England’s “capitulation to the demands of gender extremists, which has damaged policies and practices, created widespread confusion and harmed patient care”.

She added: “These much-needed changes to the NHS constitution will help secure essential sex-based rights in healthcare across England.

“Clear language, single-sex wards and access to intimate care provided by a health professional of the same sex are crucial to the wellbeing and safety of female patients. They should never have been compromised.”

Last year a report by the think tank Policy Exchange said NHS trusts were compromising women’s rights by providing same-sex intimate care based not on their biological sex but their self-declared gender identity.

In 2021, Brighton and Sussex University Hospital became the first NHS trust in the country to formally implement a gender-inclusive language policy for its maternity services department – which will now be known as “perinatal services”.

Midwives have been advised to use gender-inclusive language and staff were provided with a list of alternative terms to use when addressing patients, including “mothers or birthing parents”, “breast/chestfeeding” and “maternal and parental” in all general communications.

Instead of saying “breastmilk”, they can choose from “human milk” or “breast/chestmilk” or “milk from the feeding mother or parent”.

There has been fierce debate around attempts to reduce the use of the word “woman” in discussions on subjects including pregnancy and childbirth, and any move to do so has provoked ire from some feminists.

Author JK Rowling was vilified after she questioned a decision to use the term “people who menstruate” in a headline.

Earlier this month, a group of more than 130 MPs, peers, doctors, psychiatrists and academics wrote to the Prime Minister to demand a public inquiry into transgender ideology in schools and the NHS.

They argued that the treatment of “confused and vulnerable” children by medical professionals has been a “major scandal”.

It came after a report by Dr Hillary Cass, a leading paediatrician, which found that the evidence for allowing children and young people to change gender is built on “shaky foundations”.

The landmark review said that social transitioning should be approached with “extreme caution” because “we simply do not know the long-term impacts”.

In response, the NHS is to review all transgender treatment it provides, including to adults, and treatment for any new patients aged 16 and 17 seeking to change gender at adult clinics will be paused immediately.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/04/27/nhs-to-limit-trans-ideology-with-new-constitution/ (Archive)
 
> adolescent who had “come out...expressing concern about how their parents might react. “Some parents felt ‘forced’ to affirm their child’s assumed identity or risk being painted as transphobic and/or unsupportive,”

Lol those parents that went along with it just lol "I'm losing a rowdy son and gaining beautiful daughter!" I wonder if they're a little bit angry re: trickery? little bit buyer's remorse there? Is that anger focused on medical and education staff? I wonder if any are taking any knife-school classes?
 
> adolescent who had “come out...expressing concern about how their parents might react. “Some parents felt ‘forced’ to affirm their child’s assumed identity or risk being painted as transphobic and/or unsupportive,”

Lol those parents that went along with it just lol "I'm losing a rowdy son and gaining beautiful daughter!" I wonder if they're a little bit angry? little bit buyer's remorse there? Is that anger focused on medical and education staff? I wonder if any are taking any knife-school classes?
Those parents will campaign defending troonery until the day they die because if they had to accept the truth that they mutilated their children because of a dumb social contagion they’d rope themselves.

Look at the Satanic Panic; some of those social workers think they were right to this very day.
 
Even if you're pro-tranny "chestfeeding" doesn't make any sense.

The word "breast/bosom" isn't associated with a specific sex, over time it has become more of a gendered word for women but it's not strictly so, like vagina for a woman or penis for a man. In the Bible it's the "bosom of Abraham" and John reclined on Jesus' breast, not his chest. A breastplate is a piece of armor that covers the upper body and so on.
 
Even if you're pro-tranny "chestfeeding" doesn't make any sense.

The word "breast/bosom" isn't associated with a specific sex, over time it has become more of a gendered word for women but it's not strictly so, like vagina for a woman or penis for a man. In the Bible it's the "bosom of Abraham" and John reclined on Jesus' breast, not his chest. A breastplate is a piece of armor that covers the upper body and so on.
If people cared about things making sense we wouldn’t be in this mess.
 
Terf island is continuing to heal on this issue. Hopefully it leads to bigger and better global efforts.


The backlash is coming fast and hard.

It's almost like "support for trans rights" was absolutely astroturfed in the UK and in reality, no one supported this shit.

Where was it not turfed? The entire concept was born out of the fetish of a few well placed multi- millionaires and billionaires born into money as well as power/influence in the right places, who developed a feminization/cross-dressing fetish. This was always a top-down movement even more extremely than the rest of the letter people. There were TRAs before there was a trans population of any size. Most of the letter orgs were either bought or jumped on out of fear of impending total irrelevance.
 
Something has changed though. The Cass report is great, but all this was known already. It’s not new information, but this kind of rapid change and such total change means someone or some people within the state apparatus (not necessarily elected government either) at a very high level has put their foot down big time. Amd they have used sufficient leverage to make the regional NHS trusts roll over without so much as a bleat of opposition.
What I’m saying is that this is an exercise of significant power. I am fascinated to know who.
I actually think this is a lot of different chickens coming home to roost all at once. When we switched from Primary Care Trusts to NHS England as a commissioning body in 2013, literally one of the first things they were dinged about in patient consultations was waiting times for transgender treatment. They had an NHS Citizen's Assembly in 2014 that covered it, and then a symposium in 2015. The outputs of the symposium were worked into a Public Consultation that concluded in 2017 and published in 2018, with some recommendations implemented from 2019 onwards. These only related to adult services, and so in 2020 they commenced with the Cass Review. What a lot of TRAs don't like about the above is these were holistic consultations - so instead of just asking trans people what they wanted, they also spoke to a variety of experts and got the opinions of GPs, professional bodies, NHS trusts, the British Medical Association and so on.

The other aspect here is how the gender clinics worked. The first adult Gender Identity Clinic emerged in the late 60s - mostly as the result of John Randell at Charing Cross Hospital, who previously had been working as Head of Psychology with Lennox Broster on treating intersex patients. His approach was very old school and is surprising to hear today:
The Tavistock Institute basically started in the 20s as an experimental research private project into child wellbeing (John Bowlby developed his work on attachment theory there based off his experiences working with children, and it also demonstrated a lot of research that pushed the UK away from institutionalisation to outpatient support). It wasn't attached to a university for decades after joining the NHS proper, but it was offering accredited training courses. Nevertheless it ended up joining with the University of East London. The psychology courses at UEL are a good route into working in clinical care in the NHS, but they're poorly regarded by many professionals - UEL has a very "woo" approach and doesn't believe in diagnostic labels per se, and e.g. someone can be hired to work on wards where CBT is required despite having never practiced CBT while in training with UEL. In 1989 the Tavistock opened their gender identity clinic for children and adolescents, and throughout the 90s provided talking therapy and something called "watchful waiting". Most children they encountered were experiencing distress around gender, but would essentially grow out of it.

This changed with the Dutch Protocol. The Dutch Protocol was first outlined in the late 90s, focusing on interventions for prepubescent 12 year olds with lifelong gender dysphoria and no comorbidities. This shifted the narrative a bit, although the Tavistock used Lupron off label in a very strange non-Dutch way (16 year olds, including those with comorbidities, being given puberty blockers and then HRT). By the 2000s concerns were being raised (an internal audit in 2005 indicated around a quarter of the children they were seeing were not living with parents or family and only a few did not have any other comorbidities) but there were significant disagreements within the clinic, which was becoming the world's largest children's GIC. 2007 saw the rise of a gender affirming model in the US, which also provided an influence. In 2009 Tavistock was nationally commissioned by NHS England (normally this would have been handled by Primary Care Trusts) and that's when the number of patients started to grow, and then the waiting lists spiralled. 2011 saw them change when and how they prescribed puberty blockers (basing if off puberty stages rather than age) and they also started researching into things like the benefits of early childhood social transition around 2014 (which they sat on till 2020 when it revealed there was no evidence this improved patient outcomes). Due to numbers they then weren't providing therapeutic space to children on puberty blockers to discuss how they were feeling about their gender, and there was minimal followup.

The waiting lists continued to grow, trans right groups continued to complain, you get the picture. So although this feels like everything's happening at once, this is actually a lot of dominoes falling into place;
  • These gender clinics emerged piecemeal and their approaches to transgender treatments have changed massively, often in ways that aren't evidence based but driven by the whims of the medical professionals and TRA groups (it's acknowledged that staff at the Tavistock were often harassed by TRA groups to "do more", along with pressure from clinicians in gender affirmative countries like the US)
  • The structure of the NHS went through a big change so for a while it was easier to refer people off to a specialist and trust the specialists knew what they were doing
  • The incidence rate of trans referrals has grown immensely. This has lead to significant waiting times
  • TRA groups complaining about the waiting times and the clinical approaches to transition have prompted the NHS to explore the models and analyse how these clinics have basically been doing whatever they want with limited evidence
  • The NHS as an evidenced based policymaker has revised their policies.
TRAs complaining that the service was bad have basically drawn the spotlight onto those services, and this is the result. They were hoist by their own petard, because they thought complaining enough would mean they'd get an American style affirmative model of treatment, but the NHS did not exclusively listen to trans people on this front. The other aspect - moves away from affirmative trans language everywhere, moves towards single sex wards - are also bolstered by the recent rulings that have provided more clarity to the Equality Act, which again often emerged from trans people insisting that the Equality Act said one thing, and trying to censure anyone who disagreed, which then lead to this being tested in court or attracting the attention of the government (who are desperate for any political football to throw back at Labour) and the media (who like exploiting controversies for clicks).

tl;dr Increasing trans visibility over the last 5-10 years (and their constant demands and complaints) has lead to a lot of scrutiny at their behest, but the result is the opposite of what they were pushing for. They mistakenly thought they had more power than they did (because public institutions move glacially slowly) which lead to them digging a deeper hole. Everything's falling into place at once, but some of these dominos were toppled 10 years ago. (Although I would not be shocked if there were also some big movements going on behind the scenes, it's more that I can see how this would be a confluence of existing factors rather than directed by shadowy puppeteers).

This doesn't include the details of other GICs like Nottingham - I'm less familiar with them.
 
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It's just insane to see the UK abandoning the troons before the US. America really is the nation of the most weak, cucked, complacent pod people on earth. I don't see things turning around before civilizational collapse.

tl;dr Increasing trans visibility over the last 5-10 years (and their constant demands and complaints) has lead to a lot of scrutiny at their behest, but the result is the opposite of what they were pushing for. They mistakenly thought they had more power than they did (because public institutions move glacially slowly) which lead to them digging a deeper hole. Everything's falling into place at once, but some of these dominos were toppled 10 years ago. (Although I would not be shocked if there were also some big movements going on behind the scenes, it's more that I can see how this would be a confluence of existing factors rather than directed by shadowy puppeteers).
God, that is one of the best, most succinct but simultaneously detailed and thorough posts I've ever seen on KF. Why do you think the uniparty progressive leftist nation of Britain is swinging back the pendulum so quickly while the allegedly based US continues to sink into gender degeneracy?
 
Why do you think the uniparty progressive leftist nation of Britain is swinging back the pendulum so quickly while the allegedly based US continues to sink into gender degeneracy?
They came for our kids. And they came for our kids first, before they even went through the pretence of "adult" tranny rights. Which would have been difficult, because this is a soft lefty country and there were already laws that amounted to "you can't be beaten, sacked, refused housing or generally treated like dogshit because you are a man in a dress."

So they used the astroturfed 'trans kids' narrative as their major entree. You see, it can't be a sexual fetish if five and six year old kids have it, because they don't have sexual fetishes. it must be an identity. Something that you don't grow out of and can't be changed.

They also insisted that people must not only say, but actually believe that a man in a dress is a True and Honest Woman. This is very much like asking the UK, an overwhelmingly atheist/agnostic country, to suddenly accept the doctrine of transubstantiation.

So on the one hand, they presented themselves as openly mental, and on the other hand, at the same time they screamed and ree'd about access to kiddies.

"But it was the same as the GAYZ" yell our fellow farmers. No, it wasn't, not in a country where "god says sodomy is bad" has no force whatsoever. Gay people didn't demand anyone believe anything other than "please don't gaybash us literally to death, and also, we would appreciate being allowed to get married in the registry office like everyone else." The majority of UK people felt pretty whatevers about that.

Trannies want us to believe something that is inherently, obviously, provably not true. And they want our children, who still sleep with teddy bears and still are open to the idea of Santa, to believe it too. No dice.

Yes, there are purity spirals on the left of UK politics. Yes, poor Eddie Izzard was basically compelled to proclaim a trans identity - which he had always firmly refused - to hold high office in the Labour party. But most random bongs? We don't buy any of this. If you want to be a pretend woman, fair enough, but your "trans rights" end at the limit of being protected from active harm. The TRA demand for positive rights - to be forced into places and situations that don't want them - doesn't fly with your average bong voter.
 
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There has been fierce debate around attempts to reduce the use of the word “woman” in discussions on subjects including pregnancy and childbirth, and any move to do so has provoked ire from some feminists.
Had to slip that in there, didn't you, journoscum. This shit pisses off more than just "some feminists". Implication being, of course, that it's only a few fringe nutters that object to the mutilation of language and murder of meaning (never mind the physical atrocities committed in the name of troonism), and everyone else is totes on board with 'progressive' reality-inverting ideology. Good news, for once, but the reporter remains rope-worthy.
 
the pendulum will swing hard.
As long as it's razor fucking sharp, I'm a happy bunny.
A breastplate is a piece of armor that covers the upper body and so on.
Got renamed to chestplate about 40 years back. Same reasoning behind it as the chestfeeding bullshit, but no one much cared cause it's not the sort of thing you wear in the street.
 
We’re not faggoty Americans so we don’t pretend to care about that.
I hope this isn't playing into the abortion-fetishist lie that America is somehow uniquely restrictive. While the UK is very liberal with its abortion limit of 24 weeks compared to places like France and Spain at 14 weeks, and most of the rest of Europe at 12 weeks, the US makes it a national sport.

The reddest third of the country has the same 12-14 week limit seen in the rest of the world, with about another third around 22-24 weeks like the UK, and the bluest states in the 30 week to full term range. Nowhere else in the world comes close.
 
More I see of this girl the more I like her. Make that inquiry have some teeth.
I am absolutely astonished at how much of a reverse is happening.
1. The NHS has been told off repeatedly for using this kind of language and nothing has happened. The kind of smug ‘we are inclusive you bigots’ reply was just trotted out
2. Liz truss tries to get a bill through banning private prescriptions of puberty blockers and is mocked and filibustered in the House
3. Kami badenoch uses the very specific language that institutions have been ‘captured’
4. Cass report comes out
5. Within a couple of weeks the entire NHS machine is back-pedalling furiously, puberty blockers are off the menu and the loophole Liz wanted closed is going to be closed too

What on earth is happening behind closed doors here??
In the broader scope of things the world is slowly ramping up for total war. We are creeping towards the point where the powers that be will need the working class to support it through the coming tribulations. Failing to address the legitimate concerns of the people that keep the machine moving will cause them to actively sabotage, if not outright rebelling against, a ruling class which seems singularly bent on humiliating and exploiting them.
 
What on earth is happening behind closed doors here??
I'm sticking to the Roe V. Wade explanation - the real people in charge are starting to realize that unfruitful lifestyles = Russian pwnage or Muslim colonization or just plain running out of people born with an IQ high enough to keep shit running.

In the broader scope of things the world is slowly ramping up for total war. We are creeping towards the point where the powers that be will need the working class to support it through the coming tribulations. Failing to address the legitimate concerns of the people that keep the machine moving will cause them to actively sabotage, if not outright rebelling against, a ruling class which seems singularly bent on humiliating and exploiting them.

Exactamundo.

As things are right now, if the draft was restarted in the USA, there would be resistance that well exceeded Vietnam's. If not (please god!) open rebellion against Washington DC. ZOG is beginning to realize that when even the hardcore neocons are telling their sons to stay the fuck away from the incompetent DEI-ridden morass that is the modern armed forces, they ain't gonna have an army.
 
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