US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[The Ugly One]

Anyone who thinks they won't do everything they can to defraud the election is delusional. They don't care what you think or how you feel about things. What they know is that they can cheat, and no matter how much they cheat, there won't be any consequences.

In 2016, they interfered with the election by fabricating evidence to frame a candidate for treason, lying in court about it, spying on him, and then lying to Congress about it. There were no consequences for anybody involved in that.

Then in 2020, they cheated and interfered in ways too numerous to list, from illegal ballot harvesting to fake water main breaks to internet censorship. Again, there were no consequences for anyone involved in that.

In 2018 2022, they cheated in Arizona by closing polls in red areas while keeping them open in blue areas, among other things. Again, there were no consequences for anybody.

Now, in 2024, they're starting up by trying to have the Republican blocked from the ballot, charging him with non-crimes, and holding show trials. There won't be consequences for any of this, and there sure as fuck won't be any consequences when they once again kick poll watchers out, manufacture hundreds of thousands of votes, break every single law related to record-keeping and chain of custody, and come up with a Biden win. So why wouldn't they do it?

Why would you not cheat when the only consequence is you get everything you want and never get punished?

 

[Dick Mason]

Trump is going to nuke Iran.

 

[X Prime]

Why would you not cheat when the only consequence is you get everything you want and never get punished?

This is the crux of the issue.

All of my life experience has taught me one thing: only relatively enlightened humans have a natural concept of fairness or the Golden Rule.

To wit, not a single woman I know, even those I would consider more intelligent than the majority of men, has ever been amenable to the prospect that they should not mistreat someone solely based on having a personal dislike. And they are half the population overall.

Only a few men I know are willing to even try to be fair, and in many cases it's only a pretense based on the friend/enemy distinction or it collapses as soon as it becomes inconvenient.

Thus I have been forced to conclude that B. F. Skinner was more right than most people are willing to admit. You want people to be good, you need to set up proper rewards for virtue and punishments for not being virtuous.

 

[Halfnium Bomb]

I'm pretty certain the crash of the economy will be triggered if Biden is re-elected.

They will crash shit with no survivors if Trump is elected as a massive 'fuck you' to voters if they decide it's not worth cranking on the printing machines.

My working theory is that a Trump victory will forestall a market crash slightly more than a Biden victory.
Trump wins -> TPTB will try to keep the gravy train running longer until after inauguration, where MSN can blame him for it for the next 4 years.
Biden wins -> No incentive to keep the game up any more, as soon as the election is in you can just drop the economy on it's head and let it die.
This is assuming TPTB have an infinite ability to keep the market afloat, and we don't get a random market crash before they can pull up.

 

[babadook]

Kristi Noem is a white woman, she could’ve done a lot more to a pupperino than just kill it. In fact the millennial and zoomer Kristi Noem would proudly share about what else she does with dogs and it’ll be called Stunning and Brave.

Ol’ Chuckles seems to only do somewhat well with some canned scenarios. Even Nick fucking Fuentes and the catbois had Kirk flustered a few years ago. The fact that Kirk is having to do the same thing over again four years later is pretty funny too.

Should've replied "with enough luck one of the illegals will rape your mother with a machete"

 

[Still Exceptional]

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This creature's face goes beyond "punchable" and right into "shootable" territory. My hope is he gets culturally enriched like Ryan Carson.

 

[AnotherPleb]

That tweet reminded me: Is the 2024 election really in full swing? Like, this is it? It's hard to describe, but it barely feels like there's an election coming up. Is it just me who isn't as into this election cycle, or are people just way more checked out this time around?

There would usually be some murmurs by now

Maybe I was just spoiled by the ceremonial rape and humiliation of Jeb! during the 2016 debates, and every campaign will forever suck compared to that.

Please clap.

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And what's stopping people from smashing the glass of they try this again?

Alright, let me rephrase.

Last time this happened there was still hope that the legal system would correct this injustice. And when that did not pan out, there was hope that the 2024 elections would correct.

If the 2024 election starts being stolen, there is no hope left.
There will be blood on the streets
There will be poll counters' heads on pikes
There will be mass lynchings
There will be a #Honkening

It will be the end times, created by people that lost all trust in the government and will no longer play by its rules.

The elites really don't want to see what a desperate population will do, and January 6th showed anyone supporting Trump what restraint gets them.

My working theory is that a Trump victory will forestall a market crash slightly more than a Biden victory.

Why would they care about keeping the markets going with Trump in office? The goddamned nanosecond he takes oath he's going to be dealing with an economic Gotterdammerüng.

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

And what's stopping people from smashing the glass of they try this again?

Risk of jail for 4 years without charges being pressed + kangaroo court that would make Stalin blush
Plus 4 years of imagine if the sides were reversed by the people you are supposedly smashing the windows for

 

[Halfnium Bomb]

The goddamned nanosecond he takes oath he's going to be dealing with an economic Gotterdammerüng

Precisely, I'm talking about the difference between January 20th 2025 vs November 6th 2024.

 

[AnotherPleb]

Risk of jail for 4 years without charges being pressed + kangaroo court that would make Stalin blush
Plus 4 years of imagine if the sides were reversed by the people you are supposedly smashing the windows for

That would have worked four years ago. It's not as likely now.

Precisely, I'm talking about the difference between January 20th 2025 vs November 6th 2024.

The headline 'Markets plummet in anticipation of another Trump administration' can easily make its rounds November 6th in the NYT and the Washington Post.

 

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Court precedent is that results can't be challenged.

• Can't sue before the election because nothing has happened yet
• Can't sue during the election because no damages have occurred
• Can't sue after the election because no remedy is possible

It doesn't matter if Trump has infinity dollars for lawsuits and the best Jew lawyers money can buy, courts won't hear the cases because they've already ruled that cases cannot be heard.

And they're disbarring lawyers that speak on his behalf or represent him, even legendary lawyers that literally wrote the books they use to teach from in law school. He won't get the best Jew lawyers next time, he'll get absolutely fuck all legal representation.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

That would have worked four years ago. It's not as likely now.

The headline 'Markets plummet in anticipation of another Trump administration' can easily make its rounds November 6th in the NYT and the Washington Post.

Followed by smug Wonkette and Daily Beast articles like

"LOL Trump is already tanking the economy and he's not even in office"

 

[The Hardest R]

I don't think it will get to the courts. All the J6 show trials and state's trying their own politicians and officials for "election interference" is designed to send a message to the GOP and anyone not directly on Trump's campaign staff: "Do not fight this. Do not sue. You will be next."

If Trump tries to legally fight a close electoral college loss, he will go it alone. And that's assuming he can get any lawyers after they've prosecuted and/or disbarred every one he's had so far.

It will take a massive, overwhelming popular vote majority not seen since Reagan or Nixon '72 for Trump to be in the White House again.

Not only that but they’ve been going after effective people within Trump’s circle for process crimes. The general message is to stay away from Trump if you know what’s good for you. This basically means that the only people who will want to work for Trump are swamp creatures who will immediately begin stabbing him in the back on day one. I also like to remind people that the Department of Defense disobeyed Trump’s direct orders in Syria and very likely elsewhere. A commander in chief that can’t actually command is a constitutional crisis that a lot of people didn’t realize was going on. It’s understandable with all that was going on but Trump is going to need a lot more than meme magic to actually make a second term functional.

The headline 'Markets plummet in anticipation of another Trump administration' can easily make its rounds November 6th in the NYT and the Washington Post.

They actually pulled this in October 2016. If people are interested to know why Gary Bongson got about 3% of the vote, it was mostly scared suburbanites who were told their 401ks were going to crash and burn yet they couldn’t reconcile this with voting for Hillary. Most of those three percent of votes would’ve went to Trump otherwise.

So yeah, they’ll definitely attempt this again.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

I also like to remind people that the Department of Defense disobeyed Trump’s direct orders in Syria and very likely elsewhere. A commander in chief that can’t actually command is a constitutional crisis that a lot of people didn’t realize was going on.

Also the plan to give the nuclear codes to Nancy Pelosi.

There is every chance that we get a civil war if Trump wins and a few months or even weeks in half the military and the deep state announce they are refusing to acknowledge his authority. Congress can debate it, the Supreme Court can rule on it, but if they flat out refuse to follow his orders and refuse to give up their authority it will be a mess.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

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looks like a ginger jew. why didnt kirk ask him? and then ask about the borders of israel?

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Reminder that during 2020 wargaming Democrats had Podesta play Biden on a mock election, and upon a narrow but legal popular and electoral vote win for Trump he decided to literally threaten secession, and had Obama advice him to strongarm D.C. and Puerto Rico statehood and amnesty for Illegals to nor just take West Coast out of the nation.

All this got was a single paragraph on the NYT behind a pay wall and not one of the "muh Democracy" niggers complained, months after the fact and the only complaint in the article was basically "people might take this as a bad thing and Trump might use it as propaganda".

They WILL chimp out if Trump wins. They will cheat as much as they have to, way past the believable number of votes. In 2020 a few counties had over 100% voter turn out but these were all small counties which one could still argue with a straight face the numbers were legit because of mail in vote on the pandemic. This time they will have such turnouts in NYC and Chicago and more way past the legitimate and a complete "the Emperor has no clothes" as people insist with fingers on their years that it is perfectly normal that Biden got 90 million votes where 20 million showed up after the election day and 120% voter turn out on many cities.

 

[Overly Serious]

Election season really doesn’t kick off until after Labor Day. There starts to be a little stir after the parties hold their national conventions but after Labor Day is when things really kick off. What makes things especially boring is that it’s an incumbent going up against someone who basically won since the first primary. So it’s been especially quiet compared to past elections. Might be the most boring primary season since 1996.

Which is crazy because there's no way they should be running Biden. The Democrat primaries should be a frenzy. And yet... the waters look calm as can be.

I feel we'll have a lot closer race than people think, the shy tory effect is now the shy biden effect because enough people who might not cheer on biden will vote for him despite how bad shits gotten.

They "Shy Tory" effect comes about because people don't want to say they're voting against the non-socially acceptable candidate as approved by Progressive Media but believe the candidate is still their best option. Whilst I'd grant you if you're in some deep red area you might not want to vocalise your support for Biden, I'd be hard pressed to imagine many rational people in these areas would think he's the best for them anyway. Even for the few that do, they have the media and Big Tech on their side so little reason to be so shy. The "shy tory" effect is just one of those things that doesn't really work the other way around.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

They WILL chimp out if Trump wins. They will cheat as much as they have to, way past the believable number of votes. In 2020 a few counties had over 100% voter turn out but these were all small counties which one could still argue with a straight face the numbers were legit because of mail in vote on the pandemic. This time they will have such turnouts in NYC and Chicago and more way past the legitimate and a complete "the Emperor has no clothes" as people insist with fingers on their years that it is perfectly normal that Biden got 90 million votes where 20 million showed up after the election day and 120% voter turn out on many cities.

I imagine right now there's some Dem lawyers planning scenarios on how they could hamstring Trump if he's in prison and he wins...tie up the SC with a debate on if he can leave prison to take office, can he be at Inauguration Day, does he have to go to prison immediately after his term? They'll try all sort of requirements like he has to have prison guards with him in public, report to jail one day a month, wear an ankle monitor, have a Congressional vote to approve any time he leaves the country on a state visit, etc.

They'll spend the next 4 years making him an ineffective figurehead.

 

[The Ugly One]

This time they will have such turnouts in NYC and Chicago

You mean Atlanta, Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Phoenix. Maybe they'll cheat in Houston and Dallas to flip Texas, and really turn it into a landslide.

I have never seen a bunch of optimistic turbo-cope like people insisting the Democrats won't cheat this time "because Americans won't tolerate it" or "because everyone is watching them" or "because they'll look so bad if they do!" They're going to cheat, they're going to win, and a few Republican governors will bluster and sputter and huff and puff and get told they have no standing to sue. And if any Fudds grab their Gucci AR-15s and drive to Washington to revolt, they'll be met by feds who throw them jail immediately, and they will never get out.

I'm not even humoring "if Trump wins" scenarios, because Trump won't win. Democrats control WI, PA, AZ, and MI state governments, and while GA is a Republican government, it's controlled by a Republican who hates Trump. Since state governments alone have the power to enforce state election laws, that means they're going to cheat, they're going blue, and there's nothing anyone will do about it.

The only chance to stop the steal was 2020, and various "conservative" judges and public officials decided not to, because they really disliked Trump, and figured that allowing the left to completely subvert democracy was worth it because hey, no more mean tweets, and surely they wouldn't dare to do it again. I mean, they told us straight up at Munich, to our faces, that the Sudetenland would be enough.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

To whoever manages Biden's social media, you kinda walked into that one.

He realizes that calling Trump a six year old makes Biden look bad because Trump appears to be beating him in every single opinion poll? You don't make that sort of mockery when you're losing.