US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[The Great Citracett]

Anyone see the new Afroman song about the illustrious Biden family yet?

Fucking gold.
Afroman didn't kill himself

 

[Toy Soldier]

I imagine right now there's some Dem lawyers planning scenarios on how they could hamstring Trump if he's in prison and he wins...tie up the SC with a debate on if he can leave prison to take office, can he be at Inauguration Day, does he have to go to prison immediately after his term? They'll try all sort of requirements like he has to have prison guards with him in public, report to jail one day a month, wear an ankle monitor, have a Congressional vote to approve any time he leaves the country on a state visit, etc.

They'll spend the next 4 years making him an ineffective figurehead.

That'd be hilarious and I hope that happens.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

You mean Atlanta, Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Phoenix. Maybe they'll cheat in Houston and Dallas to flip Texas, and really turn it into a landslide.

Yep, pretty much. The question is if they are willing to truly jump the shark to do it. And so far there is no indication that they might admit defeat. They have had loads of chances to de-escalate and ignored all of them. They will cheat again and they will do it even harder.

The only real difference is that a lot of people who insisted that there was no way cheating would ever happen are now aware that it does happen and working to stop it. Trump is reinforcing the GOP and starting a much better and proactive instead of reactive election security plan this time (likely helped by the fact he isn't president and dealing with the chink flu) and of course the average normies are now closer to him as the TDS propaganda has gone stale and cost of living rose dramatically.

He realizes that calling Trump a six year old makes Biden look bad because Trump appears to be beating him in every single opinion poll? You don't make that sort of mockery when you're losing.

I guarantee you put more thought into that tweet than whatever intern made it. I find it easier to understand and predict the Biden administration when you assume they are midwits and morons with power rather than machiavellian plotters.

 

[Terrifik]

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i love the fact irs won't look into this untill years later i guess 5 or 6 but, yes this was a paid ad needed to be disclose.
love our two faced political system.
my guess she will delet the video after election pay a small $100 fine.
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hope it works bidden

 

[TJT]

If you suffered no consequences whatsoever for obvious cheating you have no reason to not push the envelope even more if it comes to it. In fact, you cheated and were rewarded for it. So you're incentivized to go even further.

Jumping the shark is a risk though if they do something so wild and so stupid that the smoking gun is unavoidable. Such as 20% more votes in PA than there are registered voters it turns into a controversy that you can't handwave away. But they would try anyway.

 

[spaztocate9000]

The question isn't if the people clinging to power after cheating their entire careers will cheat again. The important question is what will the average American do about it after the fact in mid Nov when they finally announce the end of the 2 weeks to "count" (teehee) the vote?

If the answer is nothing, then we finish our march into socialism/communism/woketardism whatever you want to call it with no hope of ever coming back.

But if we find our spines, then there are all sorts of possibilities: balkanization, civil war, WW3, clot shot II the final battle, and on and on. An interesting time to be alive for sure.

 

[TJT]

The question isn't if the people clinging to power after cheating their entire careers will cheat again. The important question is what will the average American do about it after the fact in mid Nov when they finally announce the end of the 2 weeks to "count" (teehee) the vote?

If the answer is nothing, then we finish our march into socialism/communism/woketardism whatever you want to call it with no hope of ever coming back.

But if we find our spines, then there are all sorts of possibilities: balkanization, civil war, WW3, clot shot II the final battle, and on and on. An interesting time to be alive for sure.

If one wants to draw parallels of this to Western history. We are in the "Gracchi Brothers phase" where a mild reformer (Trump) attempts some common sense changes that actually do benefit people.

But instead of being able to create and continue these kind of changes the mild reformer is attacked with endless legal battles, kangaroo courts, and the like. All coming from the Deep State and Swamp of antiquity. That being the old Roman Senate. The eventual reaction to this was of course, Caesar. Our parallel is as you say. There will be a huge reaction to this state of affairs eventually. It just isn't clear what that is yet.

Arguably Leftists will run out of steam to some degree due to the simple fact that they actively avoid and hate having children. Which is a mentality that the Soviets and Bolsheviks didn't have. In addition to propagating that having children is bad and killing babies is good. If you do not have children, you lose in the next generation to those who did. Same as it ever was.

 

[Breadbassket]

Arguably Leftists will run out of steam to some degree due to the simple fact that they actively avoid and hate having children. Which is a mentality that the Soviets and Bolsheviks didn't have. In addition to propagating that having children is bad and killing babies is good. If you do not have children, you lose in the next generation to those who did. Same as it ever was.

Childless liberals won't matter that much if all you need to keep the votes coming in is to keep indoctrinating the children of less left-leaning people with the education and university system and advocate for endless immigration.

Just look at the voter demographic shifts over the past few elections.

 

[Absolutego]

I also like to remind people that the Department of Defense disobeyed Trump’s direct orders in Syria and very likely elsewhere

Absolutely in Afghanistan. Do you think that temporary hysteria about Russian-funded bounties on our soldiers was organic? The DOD sent missives to CNN/MSNBC to try and sabotage Trump's negotiations with the Taliban, and then intentionally botched the withdrawal a year later in the hopes that the bad optics would get Biden to re-commit to the forever war.

 

[The Nothingness]

The man who filmed Ashi Babbitt being shot on January 6th was sentenced to six years in prison. The narrative is that he was one of the J6 rioters. The reality is he's been involved with both Antifa and BLM and infiltrated the event posing as a Trump supporter. BLM is now distancing themselves from the guy by saying he was never with them.

 

[MrJokerRager]

They WILL chimp out if Trump wins. They will cheat as much as they have to, way past the believable number of votes. In 2020 a few counties had over 100% voter turn out but these were all small counties which one could still argue with a straight face the numbers were legit because of mail in vote on the pandemic. This time they will have such turnouts in NYC and Chicago and more way past the legitimate and a complete "the Emperor has no clothes" as people insist with fingers on their years that it is perfectly normal that Biden got 90 million votes where 20 million showed up after the election day and 120% voter turn out on many cities.

Do they have the energy for chimping out?

And why would they chimpout for "Genocide Joe".

Since it seems so farcial and pretty clear the Democrats are just as strong of a supporter for Israel as the Republicans are with the police crackdowns in blue cities in blue areas with all the Democrat politicians all of a sudden forgotten their "riots are voices of the unheard" meme.

And I haven't even see a building burned down yet as well.

I am guessing any chimpouts for Joe losing, are the niggers on welfare and the actual paid protestors.

We seeing the real unpaid protestors right now getting buck broken.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Do they have the energy for chimping out?

And why would they chimpout for "Genocide Joe".

They in this context is referring to the DNC higher ups and the people in charge, not the masses of supporters and useful morons.

 

[Terrifik]

Do they have the energy for chimping out?

And why would they chimpout for "Genocide Joe".

Since it seems so farcial and pretty clear the Democrats are just as strong of a supporter for Israel as the Republicans are with the police crackdowns in blue cities in blue areas with all the Democrat politicians all of a sudden forgotten their "riots are voices of the unheard" meme.

And I haven't even see a building burned down yet as well.

I am guessing any chimpouts for Joe losing, are the niggers on welfare and the actual paid protestors.

We seeing the real unpaid protestors right now getting buck broken.

The only main reason is joe giving the known info to the chimps.( chimps are very very selfish)
I believe the chimp to be stupid on the now vs future question side with voting for Joe.

My working theory is that a Trump victory will forestall a market crash slightly more than a Biden victory.
Trump wins -> TPTB will try to keep the gravy train running longer until after inauguration, where MSN can blame him for it for the next 4 years.
Biden wins -> No incentive to keep the game up any more, as soon as the election is in you can just drop the economy on it's head and let it die.
This is assuming TPTB have an infinite ability to keep the market afloat, and we don't get a random market crash before they can pull up.

Election being swept away with latches.

Court precedent is that results can't be challenged.

• Can't sue before the election because nothing has happened yet
• Can't sue during the election because no damages have occurred
• Can't sue after the election because no remedy is possible

It doesn't matter if Trump has infinity dollars for lawsuits and the best Jew lawyers money can buy, courts won't hear the cases because they've already ruled that cases cannot be heard.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

Donald Trump needs to fire Susie Wiles last week.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

I think you're all incorrect, and I'm happy to make my wager here.

Trump will win because the economy has been set up in a way that makes recession inevitable, and because the DNC gets more money when Trump is in office than when Biden is.

The Democrats could opt to cheat Biden into a win, but they won't. They need a fall guy for what's about to happen economically, and they need to keep donations flowing.

The media also soaks up clicks in a Trump administration, the guy is a massive click farm waiting to happen for every media organization on every side. Boring Biden is killing political journalism because no one curr.

 

[tehpope]

Yes @Diana Moon Glampers. But, the DNC leadership are all ego centric. They see Biden losing as an afront to them. They're not that smart. If they were, we'd have Trump's second term right now with the dems pulling the rug out from under the economy to spite trump and the country. But all that shit is on their hands now.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

Yes @Diana Moon Glampers. But, the DNC leadership are all ego centric. They see Biden losing as an afront to them. They're not that smart. If they were, we'd have Trump's second term right now with the dems pulling the rug out from under the economy to spite trump and the country. But all that shit is on their hands now.

I think they thought, based on insane Modern Monetary Theory economists, that the post-pandemic economy was sure to be amazing. If we'd managed to do okay even in the times that were difficult, surely once the vax had been properly maxxed and we could all go to concerts again, the economy would roar to a triumph.

I think they wanted desperately to avert a Trump victory in 2020 because they thought, stupidly, that the level of success of the 2021-2024 economy would be so powerful that if it was attributed to Trump, Democrats would lose on the economy for decades.

This was the common wisdom in those circles at that time...that no one could afford to have the vaccines roll out on Trump's watch and see him as the person getting the credit for keeping the economy rolling and getting a moonshot vaccine out during unprecedented times. They desperately wanted to claim 2021 as their own so that when people left their houses and felt safe from disease by March or April, people would thank Joe, not Don.

Of course, it didn't work out that way. I'm sure now they wish they'd let Trump win, it would have been easy enough to paint him as the fiscally irresponsible idiot who let the money printer run too hard during covid. Instead, they've had to spend these years shakily holding up a house of cards and hoping they can hand off the hot potato. If it had looked like there was no way to prevent the crash before the election, they'd have had Joe step down with a "health crisis" and fed Kamala to the wolves. Kamala's not as much of a federal insider and it would have been easier to disavow her than to disavow Biden, the machine's most manufactured product in the last 50 years.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

If one wants to draw parallels of this to Western history. We are in the "Gracchi Brothers phase" where a mild reformer (Trump) attempts some common sense changes that actually do benefit people.

But instead of being able to create and continue these kind of changes the mild reformer is attacked with endless legal battles, kangaroo courts, and the like. All coming from the Deep State and Swamp of antiquity. That being the old Roman Senate. The eventual reaction to this was of course, Caesar. Our parallel is as you say. There will be a huge reaction to this state of affairs eventually. It just isn't clear what that is yet.

Disagree. I think we're already on Caesar.

I'd say Nixon was the Gracchis. It's easy to say the Kennedys because they were brothers who were assassinated, but Nixon was very much targeted by the Deep State which he opposed...though probably, if I'm being honest JFK was ganked by the CIA for not being hard-core enough against the commies.

In fact, the real issue is the MIC which Eisenhower warned about, and Nixon worked for him. They wanted Forever War and endless spending against the Soviets. Kennedy did get us into 'Nam, but Nixon ran on getting us out, he was just too old school to immediately pull out in a way that would lose us dignity. But ending Vietnam and his overtures to Russia and China weren't in the best interests of Dow Chemical, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the CIA. So they politically assassinated him with Naval Intelligence, FBI and CIA assets in the form of Watergate.

By that point it was too late, inertia was moving towards nuclear disarmament and peace, but perhaps what they never saw coming was the bankruptcy of the USSR in their monetary inability to keep up with us.

The new police actions and undeclared wars in the ME (and probably soon Europe, Asia, Africa, and South America) are the substitute.

Trump is of course opposed to this and actively encourages real peace. So he's a target of the Deep State and MIC. But when you look at the sheer public vitriol of the establishment against him, that's Caesar vs the Optimates level.

The question is what will be the Rubicon? I think it will be this election. They will deny Trump taking office same as they denied Caesar to return to Italy under arms and like with Caesar, threaten him with prosecution for crimes while in office. Remember, one of Caesar's issues was immunity from prosecution. His enemies were planning on trying him and politically neutering him when he returned from Gaul--at best. Exile was probably on the table.

 

[The Ugly One]

If you do not have children, you lose in the next generation to those who did.

Not if you legally require them to hand their kids over to you for indoctrination.

 

[Overly Serious]

You mean Atlanta, Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Phoenix. Maybe they'll cheat in Houston and Dallas to flip Texas, and really turn it into a landslide.

I have never seen a bunch of optimistic turbo-cope like people insisting the Democrats won't cheat this time "because Americans won't tolerate it" or "because everyone is watching them" or "because they'll look so bad if they do!" They're going to cheat, they're going to win, and a few Republican governors will bluster and sputter and huff and puff and get told they have no standing to sue. And if any Fudds grab their Gucci AR-15s and drive to Washington to revolt, they'll be met by feds who throw them jail immediately, and they will never get out.

I'm not even humoring "if Trump wins" scenarios, because Trump won't win. Democrats control WI, PA, AZ, and MI state governments, and while GA is a Republican government, it's controlled by a Republican who hates Trump. Since state governments alone have the power to enforce state election laws, that means they're going to cheat, they're going blue, and there's nothing anyone will do about it.

The only chance to stop the steal was 2020, and various "conservative" judges and public officials decided not to, because they really disliked Trump, and figured that allowing the left to completely subvert democracy was worth it because hey, no more mean tweets, and surely they wouldn't dare to do it again. I mean, they told us straight up at Munich, to our faces, that the Sudetenland would be enough.

If this is so, then the 6th of November 2024 will, however, be a great day for accelerationists..