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[Markass the Worst]

The picture is the result of broadly mandating something without considering individual cases. An own goal by cycling activists.

Reminds one of the ever increasing demands for crash safety just resulting in bulkier cars instead of changes to road design.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

I see in the picture that someone is riding in the bicycle lane. Usually the go-to line is "no one is riding on the bicycle lane because it's designed wrong" (which flies in the face of "muh induced demand" but never expect internal consistency)

 

[Atypical Dog]

Same story with "why are all the people from the country so ugly" being reappropriated to "why are all the people from the country so pretty".

That's the flag of Delululand, isn't it?

 

[Tago Mago]

Reminds one of the ever increasing demands for crash safety just resulting in bulkier cars instead of changes to road design.

It's also because of regulations, turns out it's much easier to make a gigantic truck comply with emission standards than a smaller car.

So, those who beg muh govn't "more regulations pleeeeaaaaaase"... Yeah, those "stupid large trucks that are killing us" are YOUR fault.

 

[quaawaa]

LMAO Strong Towns doesn't like Culdesac, the "car free neighborhood":

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Nothing is ever good enough for them.

By the way, the author moved from the walkable city of Washington DC to the car-dependent suburb of Venice, Florida:

Ben Abramson is a Staff Writer at Strong Towns. In his career as a travel journalist with The Washington Post and USA TODAY, Ben has visited many destinations that show how Americans were once world-class at building appealing, prosperous places at a human scale. He has also seen the worst of the suburban development pattern, and joined Strong Towns because of its unique way of framing the problems we can all see and intuit, and focusing on local, achievable solutions. A native of Washington, DC, Ben lives in Venice, Florida; summers in Atlantic Canada; and loves hiking, biking, kayaking, and beachcombing.

DC on the left, Venice on the right

Why do they never practice what they preach?

 

[S.C.U.D.]

While its a retarded lane, couldn't you just stop, look to make sure no cars are coming, then safely cross? As long as you dont blow past it without checking you'd be fine

Cyclists do not want to have to follow ANY road safety rules or laws. Just earlier this week I watched a cyclist blow through a 4-way stop without looking and a car had to slam on the brakes not to hit him. The most surprising thing was he was wearing a helmet.

 

[CrowCaw90]

NJB is the most arrogant person. The "shut up and move to Europe!" crowd like him are just as bad as the car-addicted suburbanites. As an urbanist myself, I can't stand NJB and his hateful, bitter, angry attitude. It isn't doing us a favour.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

NJB is the most arrogant person. The "shut up and move to Europe!" crowd like him are just as bad as the car-addicted suburbanites. As an urbanist myself, I can't stand NJB and his hateful, bitter, angry attitude. It isn't doing us a favour.

I'm guessing you found us because speaking out on Reddit got you censored?

 

[CrowCaw90]

I'm guessing you found us because speaking out on Reddit got you censored?

Exactly haha

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Exactly haha

All good. Don't dox yourself but I want to hear more about what it's like on the "other side". Here we also debunk a lot of Reddit, NJB, and Chuck Marohn claim too, but first things first.

 

[quaawaa]

Apparently Americans are dumb for expecting to get something for their money:


NYC Station
Moscow Station

The dollar signs should be switched as the MTA has a far larger budget than Moscow Metro at around $20 billion a year. The MTA is also deeply in debt and Moscow Metro has a much higher farebox recovery ratio.


About that:


Note that the charts are not controlled for population increases.
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[Bonesjones]

The funny part is large parts of the east coast have had rail for 150 years used for both passengers and freight, and now it's only used for freight because people would rather use cars. It wasn't some retarded conspiracy, it was basic human desire. As always it's a bunch of Europe obsessed Urbanist retards who have no idea about anything just taking romantic views of how they want life to be. No one would give a shit about trains in the slightest if they rolled back post 9/11 airport security measures. Not realizing if you replace airports with trains the exact same thing will happen to train travel as security increased with the increased rider user ship.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Note that the charts are not controlled for population increases.

They have two compounding factors they don’t like to talk about - one is that as (especially) rail transit takes up, the roads clear up. There are tons of people who would drive to work if the drive was traffic-free but take the train because it’s easier than sitting in traffic.

The other is that transfers are a transit killer. Unless you have a new-York style subway system with absolute insane train density, everyone consciously or subconsciously realizes that each transfer is a chance to miss it and be delayed further. And unless you have an absolute simcity level of trains everywhere, busses almost always win in reducing the number of transfers, because they can go all over the place.

The general point isn’t terribly far off - the cost of ass transit is the smaller part of it. People have a hard time working out billions and trillions, so spend a bit more to make your transit not look like Fagass 9000™ if at all possible. And no, peppering your shit with George Floyd statues doesn’t count. (For example, the federal highway budget is about $110 per American, I’d gladly spend twice that a year to reduce nigger interactions.)

As always it's a bunch of Europe obsessed Urbanist retards who have no idea about anything just taking romantic views of how they want life to be.

The European thing is so overplayed; they do have trains going lots of places but they also have a fuckton of cars and trucks, even more trucks in some cases, because they have a relatively weak freight rail system and somewhat more ship freight.

We should have a bureau of citizen swapping, allowing faggot Americans who desire Europe transit cock to swap with based Euros who desire unlimited guns and cars.

 

[TowinKarz]

Oil in particular stems from the demand for indoor lighting, which is what the first big product oil companies came up with.

The petroleum industry would've been seen as the "Green" alternative of it's day had these people been around then, saving whale lives at the cost of nothing but rocks, which we surely can't run out of!!!!

Futurama mocked environmentalists every chance they got, but, one of their better jabs was the idea that Whale oil made a comeback in the future because it was 'sustainable" (you can always breed more whales!)

 

[Beardless Lenin]

We should have a bureau of citizen swapping, allowing faggot Americans who desire Europe transit cock to swap with based Euros who desire unlimited guns and cars.

No thank you, we don't want them here. I heard China has a rapidly expanding rail network, they can be sent there instead.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

The funny part is large parts of the east coast have had rail for 150 years used for both passengers and freight, and now it's only used for freight because people would rather use cars. It wasn't some retarded conspiracy, it was basic human desire. As always it's a bunch of Europe obsessed Urbanist retards who have no idea about anything just taking romantic views of how they want life to be. No one would give a shit about trains in the slightest if they rolled back post 9/11 airport security measures. Not realizing if you replace airports with trains the exact same thing will happen to train travel as security increased with the increased rider user ship.

The other thing about train travel is that it was always more expensive. I think it was some pages back that someone pointed out a train ride isn't that much more expensive than it was 100 years ago accounting for inflation (well, there's also cost of living and other stuff to control for but...) and even in old movies, if someone was taking a train anywhere, the idea is that it's such a major event that they're functionally going to be gone-gone after that. It's not like a normal person could plunk down a nominal fee and catch the next one.

Also "but trains don't have TSA" is a bad argument because once it gains any sort of ground and someone snackbars on a crowded line, say hello to TSA agents on trains.

They have two compounding factors they don’t like to talk about - one is that as (especially) rail transit takes up, the roads clear up. There are tons of people who would drive to work if the drive was traffic-free but take the train because it’s easier than sitting in traffic.

The other is that transfers are a transit killer. Unless you have a new-York style subway system with absolute insane train density, everyone consciously or subconsciously realizes that each transfer is a chance to miss it and be delayed further. And unless you have an absolute simcity level of trains everywhere, busses almost always win in reducing the number of transfers, because they can go all over the place.

The general point isn’t terribly far off - the cost of ass transit is the smaller part of it. People have a hard time working out billions and trillions, so spend a bit more to make your transit not look like Fagass 9000™ if at all possible. And no, peppering your shit with George Floyd statues doesn’t count. (For example, the federal highway budget is about $110 per American, I’d gladly spend twice that a year to reduce nigger interactions.)

As far as the New York subway goes, most of that goes into the payroll and benefits of the vast bureaucracy.

Furthermore, in most cities, from Los Angeles to Dallas, a lot of the train lines, especially in more urban areas and on roadways, tend to replace bus lines, which means that as far as reducing traffic goes is a zero-sum gain since buses already go everywhere. Now admittedly, all the information I'm about to share is pre-COVID, but DART (Dallas)'s most successful line is the original Red Line, which is built on a former freight railway and takes suburbanites to downtown/"city" destinations, and suburban stations feature parking lots. Despite promoting rail travel for people who wouldn't ordinarily take trains and creating a positive experience for trains, /r/fuckcars doesn't like this sort of set-up because of "muh suburbanites" and "muh parking lots".

Also, bringing up Moscow stations is a bad example because the far better example would be Washington DC. Washington DC has some great looking stations, and formerly, some great-looking rolling stock but costs have ballooned upwards as conditions have deteriorated.

Besides, if they're going to go with the Moscow subway as an example, why not show some pictures inside the trains and compare that with the New York subway...

 

[quaawaa]

A cyclist was recently murdered in cold blood by a "driver" in Las Vegas:

Curiously, there are only two posts on /r/fuckcars about it. I wonder why they don't really want to talk about their dream scenario actually happening for once...

For some reason, this murder got reposted to /r/fuckcars today (A&N Thread). The comments are insane:

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>They killed him because they hate cyclists.
<They also ran a car off the road.
>Ok, maybe they didn't target cyclists, but if we had built more bike lanes this wouldn't have happened.

A couple of parked bikes and a low curb won't protect you from a crazy person trying to kill you:

Someone tries to tell them this:

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Car culture did this:




Unironically supporting the British speech police because people say mean things about cyclists online:

Drivers get away with murder:

Young people should not be allowed to drive (implying that every young person is like the criminals in the video):




A gun would not have saved this guy:

Also, for a bunch of "Defund the Police" supporters, they really want to throw the book at this young driver of color:







Those guys above are awfully racist:

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[Xarpho's Return]

A gun would not have saved this guy:

That's not the point, cyclists are violent psychopaths who fantasize about violence.

See this n post which the jannies refuse to remove:

 

[quaawaa]

More gay trains from around the world:

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Too late:

When will these "conservatives" realize that their "allies" hate them?



This comment was too based for the jannies:

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[McMitch]

Imagine being this desperate for someone else to be responsible for your ability to move as an adult. How infantile.