Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[Cold Waffle]

omg PLEASE say it’s like, ADHD or dyscalculia or something entirely mundane and not at all deserving of a full-on SPED program.

My chips are on her having an IEP that fell under the generic SLD umbrella, which encompasses stuff as generic as difficulty with math reasoning or listening comprehension. An SLD doesn't even need to be a named disability like dyslexia (although dyslexia does go in the same category). It can be as simple as a storied history of a kid being shitty at reading comprehension, despite interventions to get them up to speed.

Ever wonder how the star quarterback in high school graduated even though he could barely read a line from Lord of the Flies aloud in English class, let alone pass the state exams for a diploma? It was an SLD exemption.

 

[vanilla_pepsi_head]

Feeling a bit skeptical about the learning disorder, she’s both scheming and very verbal & I can’t reconcile that with being a sped. She does LOOK retarded, though.

The speed with which she learned helplessness was impressive, too.

I think that is the major thing that keeps people whole-heartedly buying into the grift in spite of how many discrepancies are pointed out to them or that are even so blatant they couldn't avoid noticing on their own. Part of it is undoubtedly because nobody wants to risk social ostracism or worse and deservedly feeling like the biggest asshole in the universe, if on the off chance they end up being wrong and it turns out they've just publicly accused a severely disabled person of being a greedy attention-whoring bullshitter. But I'd argue even that is second to the idea that most people are optimistic enough about humanity to think nobody on earth could EVER be so shameless, attention-hungry and immune to embarrassment that they'd cosplay as an actual tard to claim the honorary achievements awarded to speds to make them feel good about themselves, and besides that just get a kick out of manipulating people into helping them with ADLs in public.

Andie has already impressed me with how adept she is at manipulating people, utter shamelessness, and dedication to the grift. Shit's wild and we haven't even made it to the cancer faking part yet

 

[capybaja fresh]

omg PLEASE say it’s like, ADHD or dyscalculia or something entirely mundane and not at all deserving of a full-on SPED program.

Hell, I remember getting put in some weird programs in a different room during the equivalent of elementary/middle school just because I was a socially anxious kid who cried a lot lmao. I don't know how the US system works but I'm feeling this theory, that there was no learning disability but she was a neurotic hypochondriac or had some separation anxiety/attachment thing or faked stuff from a very early age and they didn't know what else to do with her.

 

[no I will not]

Hell, I remember getting put in some weird programs in a different room during the equivalent of elementary/middle school just because I was a socially anxious kid who cried a lot lmao. I don't know how the US system works but I'm feeling this theory, that there was no learning disability but she was a neurotic hypochondriac or had some separation anxiety/attachment thing or faked stuff from a very early age and they didn't know what else to do with her.

You can definitely get into special education classrooms due to an ED (emotional disturbance) which is generally poor emotional regulation that interferes with learning. I am also very curious about the reasoning for her placement. It looks like she was in a pretty restrictive environment and those type of bridge programs that were mentioned tend to go to kids in need of a lot of support. If we are placing bets, I would say that she was there for an ED . I wonder if she was able to convince them to give her an one-on-one aid that she could trick into doing everything for her.

 

[Cold Waffle]

You can definitely get into special education classrooms due to an ED (emotional disturbance) which is generally poor emotional regulation that interferes with learning. I am also very curious about the reasoning for her placement. It looks like she was in a pretty restrictive environment and those type of bridge programs that were mentioned tend to go to kids in need of a lot of support. If we are placing bets, I would say that she was there for an ED . I wonder if she was able to convince them to give her an one-on-one aid that she could trick into doing everything for her.

Agreed: definitely emotional behavioral disorder if she was self contained like she claims. They've been trying to mainstream the masses for a couple decades at least. If they could have put her out with the normies, they would have. And because she's not profoundly disabled (as in needing a 1-1 aide to accomplish ADLs), the only way she'd be in a restrictive environment would be EBD. Which begs the question: If really she was self contained, then did she munch her way to that, too?

 

[Lolzalolol2324]

Agreed: definitely emotional behavioral disorder if she was self contained like she claims. They've been trying to mainstream the masses for a couple decades at least. If they could have put her out with the normies, they would have. And because she's not profoundly disabled (as in needing a 1-1 aide to accomplish ADLs), the only way she'd be in a restrictive environment would be EBD.

The thing is it sounds like she got services until she was 21? Unless I’m misunderstanding what the transition program was? They only offer transition services to students with severe disabilities— usually significant intellectual disability. It’s only offered if the student gets an alternate diploma because they can’t meet the high school requirements (usually because they take an alternate assessment, which is only supposed to be given to 1% of the students in any given school district (roughly the amount of the population with severe intellectual disability), and even then there is more of a process involved to get services, which usually include things like learning to take public transportation, basic job skills, life skills, etc. Especially since No Child Left Behind, you have to make a strong case to get a student on an alternate assessment, even if they are in a substantially separate placement.

I might be wrong and they just used transition in their program name instead. But if I’m right, she definitely convinced her school she had a significant intellectual disability, which does not seem to be true based on the skills she’s shown she has.

 

[no I will not]

I might be wrong and they just used transition in their program name instead. But if I’m right, she definitely convinced her school she had a significant intellectual disability, which does not seem to be true based on the skills she’s shown she has.

Yeah, those types of programs usually only go to those with the highest needs which is why I am very curious about how she qualified. It's hard to fake an intellectual disability though it is technically possible because functional intelligence also qualifies and that's based on self reports, parent reports, and teacher reports. I am very curious about the role her mom plays in all of this.

 

[Cold Waffle]

The thing is it sounds like she got services until she was 21? Unless I’m misunderstanding what the transition program was? They only offer transition services to students with severe disabilities— usually significant intellectual disability. It’s only offered if the student gets an alternate diploma because they can’t meet the high school requirements (usually because they take an alternate assessment, which is only supposed to be given to 1% of the students in any given school district (roughly the amount of the population with severe intellectual disability), and even then there is more of a process involved to get services, which usually include things like learning to take public transportation, basic job skills, life skills, etc. Especially since No Child Left Behind, you have to make a strong case to get a student on an alternate assessment, even if they are in a substantially separate placement.

I might be wrong and they just used transition in their program name instead. But if I’m right, she definitely convinced her school she had a significant intellectual disability, which does not seem to be true based on the skills she’s shown she has.

I've heard of transition programs that will help pay for community college or tech schools, but yeah, they're definitely usually for the kids that wouldn't make it out in the real world. And this dunce could 100% go to the local Aldi and buy groceries without a babysitter. I want to know what her claim to sped fame is now, and how she had a magical transformation. She must be on billboards in her school district. They named a park after her. What a successful program.

 

[Catmannjew]

Could it be because her twin sisters got all of the attention, so she did something like stop talking or acted out by withdrawing at first. This shows by her harvesting attention from random places, like the news, I'll children, and runners.

 

[glioblastoma multiforme]

I don't recall this girl being brought up in the thread before, she came up randomly in a Youtube recommendation for a channel I've never seen before:

She was called Megan Bhari and faked cancer to get the attention of her favourite band, One Direction. She started a foundation for sick kids called Believe in Magic, then grifted over £100k saying she needed specialised treatment in the US. People with actual sick kids were getting suspicious, so first e-mailed to ask which hospital she was in so they could send gifts and didn't get a response. Then they sent an e-mail with some thing that told them the exact location of where it was opened, they were in fucking Disney World.

Eventually they sent a private detective to catch them in their bullshit, which he promptly did. They were reported to the charity commission. It was found that Megan's mum had taken over 100k out of their foundation's account into her personal account. Investigations were ongoing, then Megan died suddenly at 23 of a heart problem caused by liver disease (possibly due to the meds she was needlessly on? this is my own speculation not mentioned in the video or elsewhere that I've read). Of course people blamed those suspicious of her for hounding her to death. Her autopsy revealed she was completely neurologically normal.

I don't think anyone will ever truly know what happened, but Megan's siblings' comments make Munchausen by Proxy sound very likely.

I couldn't find much further information.

If TLDW, there's a summary of the video here. There aren't many articles about the case but this one seems quite good.

 

[wimzi]

I don't recall this girl being brought up in the thread before, she came up randomly in a Youtube recommendation for a channel I've never seen before:

She was called Megan Bhari and faked cancer to get the attention of her favourite band, One Direction. She started a foundation for sick kids called Believe in Magic, then grifted over £100k saying she needed specialised treatment in the US. People with actual sick kids were getting suspicious, so first e-mailed to ask which hospital she was in so they could send gifts and didn't get a response. Then they sent an e-mail with some thing that told them the exact location of where it was opened, they were in fucking Disney World.

Eventually they sent a private detective to catch them in their bullshit, which he promptly did. They were reported to the charity commission. It was found that Megan's mum had taken over 100k out of their foundation's account into her personal account. Investigations were ongoing, then Megan died suddenly at 23 of a heart problem caused by liver disease (possibly due to the meds she was needlessly on? this is my own speculation not mentioned in the video or elsewhere that I've read). Of course people blamed those suspicious of her for hounding her to death. Her autopsy revealed she was completely neurologically normal.

I don't think anyone will ever truly know what happened, but Megan's siblings' comments make Munchausen by Proxy sound very likely.

I couldn't find much further information.

If TLDW, there's a summary of the video here. There aren't many articles about the case but this one seems quite good.

Back in May a BBC podcast on this case was briefly discussed. I listened to the podcast- it was p good and featured many interviews- but glad a more condensed form of the story is being released.

Edit to add: lol started watching the vid and I respect the guys production values but the uncanny 3D Models are freaking me out a bit. They have such soulless eyes.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Whitney Dafoe retweeted this and lol, lmao even.
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LMAO. I’m so glad he’s been brought up in this thread. I remember reading some article, or maybe news story, on him and it was sketchy as fuck. They leaned hard on his parents being scientists as proof it was all real. Lots of photos of him healthy years ago contrasted with him being an invalid. Very light on some info.

The thing that threw me was he was a man and it’s just so unusual to see a male munchie that extreme. I had a suspicion he was just a very mentally ill drug addict. I’d love to see the list of meds he’s been prescribed the last ten years if he wants the police called for not getting Ativan.

 

[hat horse]

Rose Merrill (aka rosethrives) is currently raising $3000 dollars for a service dog! She is using GoFundMe to collect donations, and promoting her campaign on tiktok and Instagram.

I've attached her little "commercial" that she's using to spread the word. Here is the link to her GoFundMe, if anyone wants to check it out.
Through this video, I was able to find the breeder who will be providing the future service dog: OMG Poodles of Manassa, Colorado. I do not know enough about dog breeding to look for all the red flags, but I did notice a few typos and small issues with the website. I did not see anything about a "scholarship" or discount like Rose mentions, except for their Guardian Program that allows the dog to still be used for breeding....

A LOT has happened with her GoFundMe though. And she gets a new toy to play with in public.

Spoiler

Most of these videos are from her Instagram, not tiktok. She usually doesn't post much on Instagram. We will sort of find out why later.

Rose clarifies a few things, some of which I mentioned in my post on here. Hi Rose! Sloane is the former service dog, she pays for him even though he lives with her mom. Don't worry, she can totally afford the new service dog! Unless she gets a really big vet bill, then she might ask for money again.

Rose makes another video about why she really needs to fundraise but also she can afford the dog on her own afterwards. This is where she mentions the scholarship.
She plans to self train... how exactly? If she is as disabled as she claims to be, recently she says she's mostly bedbound, then she is absolutely too sick to train a service dog. But she says that she can board and train him with the breeder when she's too sick, because she's so sick right now.
Some people think that if she cannot afford a puppy now, then she won't be able to afford a puppy later either. But that is simply not the case! She has budgeted the money for it, and her budget includes Sloane dying in a couple years.

The Bullies went too far and got Rose's GoFundMe removed! She once had someone sent to jail for sending her death threats, but that pales in comparison to this momentous trauma. Apparently this counts as ruining her life.
Rose, girly, maybe your GoFundMe was suspended because you do not need to fundraise. You said you will be able to afford the cost of your puppy after it comes home because you can budget for it... so why don't you budget some money aside for a while and save up for the initial costs? That will take time, but most people have to wait to save up for large expensive purchases, and don't just rely on donations.

She mentions that there's links on her GoFundMe for "added credibility" and that has given some good information! Her first source to prove her credibility is the SBSK interview she did with Ken Doll Chris... not a great start there.
Rose was part of a webinar about Stiff Person Syndrome, she said her doctor invited her to be part of it. I'm not watching the whole thing, Rose is only in it from 20:30 to 26:53. She even brought back her fake wrist contracture for the occasion!
Notable information: she does say that her SPS diagnosis was delayed by being diagnosed with conversion disorder. She also said that paramedics would often think she was faking, and would purposefully hurt her to "prove she was faking" (probably just a sternum rub then) and this distressing experience made her stop seeking medical care as often. Doctors claimed her issues were 100% anxiety, even though her hard work in therapy was making her worse! Now that she has a SPS diagnosis, everyone treats her better, and she gets "rescue meds" during bad spasms. Rose also says that SPS can present as a psychiatric condition early on, but it is a physical condition that needs treatment, but she needs emotional support and encouragement more than anything else.
Dr. Amanda Piquet is a neurologist at UCHealth in Aurora, Colorado, who specializes in autoimmune neurological diseases. I don't really have time to go searching for information about her.

Rose gets her new toy, a gait trainer. She thought she's never walk again... she was able to walk on March 15th according to her tiktok videos, so I think she'd be fine without it.

Her GoFundMe was reinstated and she already got donations again. She once again blamed The Bullies, rather than the fact that she just does not need this money.
Maybe these disabled people are "bullying" Rose because they know enough about disability to see that she's full of shit? I don't think death threats are acceptable, I just want her to stop lying and scamming people, but I also don't really believe that she had two people sent to jail for hate crimes because of her stupid online drama. Accusing someone of faking is not "extremely dangerous" either.

Rose plays with her gait trainer in the hallway, and shows it off to her elderly neighbors. She prefers not using her super special custom AFOs.

Rose was in the "troubled teen industry" (except not really, because it was a residential treatment facility) and was sent to a treatment center that eventually got shut down because two kids died there. She was treated "pretty well" except for when they'd leave her unsupervised while psychotic. She mentions that sometimes restraints are necessary... were they necessary for you in the hospital recently Rose?
I did a quick google, found this article, and I think she was possibly at the Tennyson Center. I'm not sure obviously, and it doesn't really matter anyway.

Mostly boring video, but Rose says that this childhood picture shows her already having hypertrophic muscles. I don't see it at all, but I'm not a doctor.

Finally back on TikTok, Rose says in her "final update" she will be removing all her videos that do not align with her values. She doesn't want to be involved with bullies, and she does not approve of her behavior that day (which was already deleted). She is also planning to stop sharing personal updates about her disease, and share about fashion instead. I sincerely hope that she does make this change and it sticks, she obviously has fun with her fashion choices.


Her tiktok profile is changed to @rosethrives now and her bio has changed to reflect the changes that she says she will be making.

Look at all her neat toys! The visible stoma really makes me want to make a donation of any size towards her GoFundMe.


Everything works out in the end, she beat The Bullies and has raised $231 completely unnecessary dollars!

So that's what Rose has been up to. I really don't think she'll be able to meet her fundraising goal, but she's proven that with the power of budgeting she could probably afford the puppy on her own eventually. Also, I don't think she has washed her hair at all recently. PLease set up a GoFundMe for some dry shampoo.

 

[Slippery_Slope]

Maybe it's because I haven't checked this thread in a long time but seems Rose is really over the top with her OMG I CAN WALK AGAIN!?

Also, troubled teen industry? Somebody must have read Paris Hilton's Memoir. Was she claiming to have been send to Provo to get sexually abused via unscheduled nightly gynecological exams, too?

 

[LonesomeDud]

Rose is just an indolent slug. Useless.

 

[Catmannjew]

service dog: OMG Poodles of Manassa

She doesn't have a breeding goal, these are hopefully farm, trail, and family dogs. Their scores are not bad but they are not what I would use to breed. There is a breeding male not even tested.

One of the things was she let the dog carry around kittens by their scruff? I think there is more to the story and I would have never bred the dog. Does she even have breeding rights or did she buy to breed. It seems like a money grab by using all of the sports as well as service work. You don't want 2 years of training then to take the dog and breed it so you can not even use your service dog.

Edit: the pennhip for the two dogs tested were ok.

 

[JanuaryViolet]

Does anyone know why Rose Merrill (aka rosethrives) has a thing for big stupid glasses? I actually did a search for her posts, started with the earliest one I found, read them, and the only thing I've noticed is that her glasses are getting bigger and stupider as time goes on. The only thing I can figure is that she thinks it somehow makes her look more like a little kid playing dress-up, which it sort of does. Anyone have a really good deep dive on her? Other than she's pretty much the US version of Bee Crisp, I would like to hear the origin story behind all of this. (The whole thing screams daddy issues, but what else?)

 

[large_farva]

Does anyone know why Rose Merrill (aka rosethrives) has a thing for big stupid glasses? I actually did a search for her posts, started with the earliest one I found, read them, and the only thing I've noticed is that her glasses are getting bigger and stupider as time goes on. The only thing I can figure is that she thinks it somehow makes her look more like a little kid playing dress-up, which it sort of does. Anyone have a really good deep dive on her? Other than she's pretty much the US version of Bee Crisp, I would like to hear the origin story behind all of this. (The whole thing screams daddy issues, but what else?)

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/muncha...hies-spoonies-etc.29936/page-503#post-7390847

Here is the post where I brought her up initially. What follows in the next several pages is a little more deep digging on her.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Andie Proskus part 3. Last time we watched her freefall into anorexia and compulsive exercise, claiming she re-learned how to walk through grit and determination until she was going up to 13 miles a day every day. Then she convinced a bunch of really nice ladies to be her surrogate mommies, getting them to push her in a stroller and hand-feed her while constantly giving away she could walk and feed herself just fine. She even got some guy to push her in an entire marathon. We ended with the conclusion of the running saga and the abrupt disappearance of her new mommies for reasons that are unclear.

Spoiler: Missing in action

So we already know Andie's active socials from the time are long gone, and now the running mommies are done with her but we're not sure why. It could simply be because she got bored of the inspirational stroller racer persona and wanted to move on to something else. If you put the AndiesArmy blog Brian Hartwig maintained through Wayback, you can pull up a post made to it in July 2016. It’s about how her dog Noodle was attacked by other dogs and needed expensive veterinary care to close her wounds.


The GFM is still available but weirdly while the text is still about the dog, the title is now “Andie’s Accessible van fund.”


And in this article about the search for the woman whose dogs attacked Noodle, we learn dad was an oncology nurse before he retired. From his facebook bio, we know it was at Providence Portland Medical Center. He also says Noodle is basically a therapy dog for Andie and comforts her through her many illness-related trials.


The charity drive starts for the year so there’s a few scattered posts.


Here’s her on her jaderoars account talking about it. It also looks like she’s lost substantial weight again and is trying to make it seem like her one hand is withered and curled in. She barely moves it and when she does (at about 3:50 in) she keeps her fingers curled in.

Here’s the last video on her LovableXDSinger01 youtube: a 2016 “sock toss” for her vanity charity. Brian Hartwig is filming and Kristi with the chin holds the mic for her, suggesting the running mommies did not leave her over drama. People pay a small sum for a pair of socks they then try to chuck at a target on the gymnasium floor, closest to the center wins a prize. The money goes to the charity she still hasn’t registered as a charity.

She retweeted an article about this on Twitter, only the second post available when I archived.


Here's the article. She’s a giver who always puts others before herself, except when she’s making them push her in a stroller and feed her. Andie, this is the kind of thing people say about others, not a way people who are genuinely performing service for others out of the goodness of their hearts describe themselves.


For a while Andie’s a ghost again. The only reason we know she’s alive is her maternal grandmother, Anne, died in June 2017 and she’s listed in the obit.


And because she posted another singing video on the jaderoars account in March. She doesn’t show herself. She focuses on her computer screen with the lyrics up.


I can find a few people posting on Andie-related hashtags on Insta but no new news.


July 2017 someone mentions her on LCF’s munchie threads, but it’s just to say that someone else reminds her of Andie.


And in August, someone (possibly the same person) says that Andie has just been caught faking brain and kidney cancer and wiped out her socials again. They say that at the start of her faking history she was actually claiming it was a car accident (the only time I find someone saying this), then moved on to muscle disease, then cancer, then muscle disease again, and just had another cancer fake-out. Funny enough they were responding to a post about Sofia Rodriguez saying she was pretending her family was posting for her. Sofia’s family most likely was posting for her at that time. Sofia’s mom was South Korean and made some very distinctive grammar errors, and we know that someone claiming to be her mom who made the same mistakes continued to update after Sofia passed away. On that note, if we could find any of these posts of Andie’s it would probably be very easy to figure out it was her, because she makes some very consistent mistakes as we all do.


In October 2017, she starts a new facebook group for the sock charity, but it’s private. It does give us a good piece of info: her address.


Huh.


Oh. Andie now lives in a supervised group home for people with developmental and intellectual disorders. This is not a medical nursing facility for people with illnesses or physical disabilities. It’s explicitly for people with things like severe autism who require 24-7 supervision. Importantly, Andie’s carers are unable to provide any kind of skilled nursing care.


Here’s a video and article from late 2017 about the dumb vanity project.


December 2017 is also when her current instagram, @andiesjourney, starts. Her first post is just about delivering the socks and toys to children at the hospital, then she goes silent for a year.


By early 2018, the Andie’s Army blog is returning a database error when Wayback tries to crawl it. Where oh where is Andie Proskus?


There’s people tweeting at her.


This guy runs into her on her daily walk and says she’s still pulling 6-7 miles per day. So she's alive and active and it looks like she's recently shaved all her hair off. What an odd choice for someone who has been repeatedly, credibly accused of faking cancer.


On Twitter someone RTs a screenshot of Andie asking to meet Ellen Degenerates and sing with some other person named Shoshana Bean, a Broadway actress also from Beaverton. I swear, Ellen Degeneres and Broadway musicals should be added to our list of red flags. Since this SS came from Andie’s twitter account and is no longer there, we know this is yet another time something went wrong and she torched her accounts.


Here’s what this is about. March 2018 Andie’s jaderoars account posts a plea to Shoshana Bean who is coming to her alma mater, Beaverton High.

Various accounts wish her well in this endeavor.


This person is begging Make-a-Wish to facilitate this. Andie is 25.


She also makes another video begging someone named Maddie Poppe to meet her. She's some American Idol person. She now looks closer to what we who discovered her through Tiktok know her as.


This is interesting. Brian specifying that she’s still a fighter even if it’s not cancer. Ooh has Andie been cancer-baiting again?


Mason wishes her well and tells her she doesn’t deserve what’s happening to her.


Aubrey uploads a video in September begging Ellen to have Andie on. She says she’s going to make a facebook page for this but if she ever did I couldn’t find it.

Kirk Patrick Miller wrote a memoir about his life with bipolar disorder but Andie inspires him


This girl’s from South Africa. Best guess is the dog is a therapy dog Andie saw in the hospital but of course the post she’s responding to is gone.


Ooh, suicide baiting too?


Getting gifts from the cattle. I’m not even including the dozens of posts from absolute randos saying she’s such an inspiration.


The Muscular Dystrophy Association of Portland posts about the sock drive.


Here’s the post from their facebook page.


Her former school also posted about it.


All these journoscum are getting paid to do less than a tiny, tiny fraction of the work I just did, then repeating the narrative a pathological liar has spun for them which made her unassailable to her actual victims. Burn them all.


December 2018, Andie’s back on Instagram to post about the smile boxes.


Infection?


Oh wow that’s right, as Fred Chapman the politisperging mathematician has just reminded us, Andie claimed she had an infection in her spine at the very start of this, in her smile box gofundme. With so much other information I totally forgot about it. Well, that sounds real pleasant, couldn’t happen to a nicer gal.


It's Ashley Rose Johnson, Miss Salvation Army Dishwashing Queen! She posts these messages on Twatter. So there’s the mystery of the comment about her being blocked. She and Andie got in some kind of spat on Facebook. Ashley backed down and deleted whatever critical comments she made but Andie blocked her anyway. Ashley revived a long-dead Twitter account trying to get through to Andie but no dice.


LMAO and there it is. This was yet another time Andie Proskus faked cancer, fresh off the last time she got caught. Head shaved, eyebrows shaved, chemo cap and feeding tube. I would bet actual cash money that if we could resurrect her accounts from 2018-19 there was a lot of talk about “treatments” and “scans” with all evidence pointing a casual reader to the cancer answer, even if she never outright claimed it was cancer. This is why I follow every trail I can find.


Speaking of, hello Jessica Blaumer. Fancy seeing you here.


For chronology’s sake, as of now in our timeline, Andie has not deleted her social media. I can still see people talking to her on Twitter but it’s bland “you’re so inspirational keep fighting!!” posts from strangers. But the funny thing is when I finished writing part 2 on 7 April I went to grab her insta stories and her PFP was gone. She replaced it a few days later and my archived copy never deviated from the live version except for one deleted post, but boy howdy did that light a little fire under my ass to make sure I had everything I wanted backed up.


People are still begging Ellen for attention.



She Insta-posts about the smile boxes again in June 2019. Pic is her with some sick kids so no thank u.


July, still looking super thin and getting by with just the posterior walker.


October she posts another slideshow to her jaderoars account. It’s mostly hospital pics but includes pics of her spine infection, so we know that’s real.


Oh hey it’s Mama Proskus! We haven’t seen her in a second.


And one of the twins, Rachel.


We can at least get an idea of the time period from the dates on her dressings.


This neck brace situation is hilarious. Why are you wearing it like this? it's supposed to go under your chin. Even if you believe there's something wrong with her neck she's not helping it by wearing this with her chin tucked into it.


November, she delivers a bunch of socks to a women’s shelter. If only she wasn’t a disease of a person who was doing this all for attention and to weasel out of the cancer faking accusations.


People are still begging for Ellen to notice her. The link is to her current active facebook but surprise, it’s been wiped of nearly all content before 2023.


Over on Insta all I can find is yet another genuinely sick person (polycystic kidney disease) running in Andie’s honor.

Spoiler: Tiktok

Finally. In December 2019 she starts her Tiktok, @andiesjourney, with a video of her lip syncing “you are my sunshine” and we are finally back in business.


January 2020, she posts herself sitting and miming the dance moves another girl posted. Almost immediately she explodes in popularity. Maybe just got lucky with the algo gods in that innocent, pre-quarantine time before Tiktok became quite the behemoth it is now. I don’t know. This entire platform confuses me.


Her teeth are jacked. They were always kinda shit but now her incisors are chipped and cracked. Are we purging, Andie?


She’s always looking down and hunching her shoulders in a really odd way these days. Remember back in the racing days when she convinced her new mommies that her disease had progressed to where she couldn’t lift a cookie to her mouth? When her hand was all withered up and she could barely move it? Because now she can open her fingers and move her arms just fine, to her mouth, her ears, or any other place she wants them to go.

Just another look at her janky chipped teeth.


Getting the actual originator of a dance to say she’s done a better job of it because can’t make the muscle disease girl sad.


I want to point out her hair. What starts as a little patch in the front grows over the course of a few days to include the sides of her hairline as well. Wouldn’t be the first one we’ve seen one of these girls pull her hair out or shave it for attention. Nicole Sams had her whole “my life is being ruined by trichotillomania” saga when she was obsessed with that Beckie girl and Jessica Riley was in a perpetual cycle of her hair barely growing back in then "falling out" as soon as it was long enough to get her fingers around it. I think Andie was first pulling and then shaving patches of it trying to make it look like chemo hair loss again.


So this Charli person is the highest paid creator on Tiktok and the first on the platform to reach 100mil subs. I have never heard of her, as is tradition. Andie duets her and then her followers tag Charli trying to get the Queen Bee to shout out Andie. Andie holds her arms out completely to the side without issue during this.


On February 10, 2020 she announces with a cheerful dance that she is still fighting a severe spine infection and her dad calls her to wish she wasn’t alive anymore because he’s abusive. The comments are full of people calling her a queen and telling her to stay strong and she doesn’t deserve the abuse. We last saw Papa Proskus when Noodle the dog got hurt back in 2016 and Andie still lived home. In November 2017 an article in the local news talking about the sock drive that year posted her group home address and it hasn’t been edited since then, so we can be reasonably sure she was living there by then (her own Facebook group from October 2017 also uses this address but she could have edited it after the fact). What happened in those 15 months? How did we get from “my disabled daughter relies on this dog for support” to “go live in a group home, I wish you weren’t alive”?


Also on February 10, 2020, we get this article about her giving an uplifting speech at a basketball game.


Spa day, looks like she has some kind of sore on her neck. Guess it’s chafing from the collar.


I feel like I slept through the middle of a movie. I know who the characters are but I’m not really sure what the plot is doing anymore. Dixie is Charli’s sister and the second highest paid Tiktok influencer. And Ellen. Always fucking Ellen.


Again which of her muscles is weak? Because before she was trying to make it seem like she had a weak pelvic girdle and her legs were twisting in so she compensated by keeping her knees pinned but now she can swing her hips back and forth just fine. Addison is the third highest paid Tiktok influencer. And Ellen. ALWAYS Ellen.

I actually find it very upsetting how dishonest these people are. Every single video of her singing is “omg girl get on America’s Got Talent you have the voice of an angel even if you forgot half the words and were off pitch for almost the entire thing!” Every dance is “Slay queen you barely moved at all and couldn’t stay anywhere near the beat but you were so much better than the professional dancer!” It reminds me of the people bending over backwards to tell some unshaven linebacker in crusty makeup, a rat’s nest wig, and a mismatched outfit that he is such a brave and stunning woman and he totally passes. Or all the people who were saying Lizzo was so beautiful and fierce, size doesn’t matter until she did something they didn’t like and they all went right to “fat bitch.”


The collar thing just keeps being funny. It's an Aspen Multipost and if it was on properly her head would not be able to be in this position. Her chin would be on the white pad and the brace itself would be against her chest ensuring her head was held up.


It’s hard to capture but if you look closely it looks like maybe her chin is peeking out under the pad, in the U-shaped space on her neck. Like it’s not on the pad at all, she’s wearing the collar so loose that she can tuck her chin in to force her head into this unnatural downward position.


Now claiming that in addition to the spine infection she’s in pain from an unspecified accident and she has a nasty cold. But she’s still dancing. That’s not how that collar’s supposed to be worn at all.


That hair grew in nice and even and very quickly. She obviously shaved it. Honestly she kinda just looks like every woman I dated in college here, minus the dumb collar.


Three open wounds, seven total abscesses. That sounds pleasant. Still dancing.


In very high pain. Still dancing. Recall that back when she was doing the gait abnormality, when she wasn’t being supported she clenched her thighs and knees together and stuck her rear out, but now she can stand with her feet shoulder-distance apart, hips straight and swinging side to side without holding on for support and it’s fine. The lordosis and clenched knees she used to do at least almost tracked with the limb-girdle theory if you squint real hard and are pathologically determined to give them the benefit of the doubt like I am, because if your pelvic girdle is weak those are things you could do to try to compensate.


Oh, and she can also throw her arms all the way in the air from this position.


Mom is also abusive and screams at her but she’s dancing the bad feelings away. Remember when she claimed she couldn’t feed herself because her arms were too weak to get them to her mouth? Because she’s miming feeding herself in this.


Off to the hospital to see her neurosurgeon because a new lump formed. Not an abscess. A lump. Again, something I’d say was insignificant if she hadn’t already faked cancer in the past and wasn’t giving off every appearance that she’s doing it again.


She is admitted to the hospital on March 10 and for the first time we see she has a port.


Silence for a month then she’s back to dancing in her pajamas and being told she’s the absolute bestest dancer ever. This time she even gives us a little twirl! Hair growing in real nice and even still.

Spoiler: a star is born

Two more months of silence. She’s back in the hospital on oxygen. The person who wrote this song responds to her. Once again, no support, legs shoulder-distance apart, and absolutely no difficulty remaining upright (and dancing!) in this position.


This guy also did a duet and posted it to his own page. It got 5 million views and over a million likes.


She also gets Queen Charli to duet her “for childhood cancer and others in the fight.” As far as I understand how this platform works (read: not at all, this is just pattern recognition) the person on the right is the original video and the person on the left has created a duet from that original. That Charli chose to create a video from Andie's is a big deal to stunted Tiktok people. This was for a hashtag campaign run by the pediatric cancer charity Alex’s Lemonade Stand.


I never stop being weirded out by how obsessed people are with getting celebrities and influencers to engage with them on social media. I feel like this is one of those generation gap things where these people have grown up in an era where “famous people” were so plentiful and seemingly accessible yet not. They’re on social media, you see them interacting with other fans so you want your shot. But some of these people treat it like it’s a life-changing event to get some weirdo who just happens to have a large following to acknowledge they exist.


Looks like our chair might be a Permobil M300. Her shirt says Haven Center of Oregon, the charity that runs her group home.


Her audience thinks she has cancer. Gee I wonder why.


Her high profile duets have made her popularity explode. She hits 1 million subs in July and crossposts to Insta.


Guess it’s about time to bic that head again, huh? And wear brightly colored headbands to draw attention to the baldness. Eyebrows might be a bit patchy. Is she gonna go for it?


Over on Instagroom she’s getting tagged in portraits immortalizing her chrome dome. How fucking weird.


And posts saying she’s being boolied.


Man. Even if you believe Andie is just a woman who has cancer and MD, how fucking weird is it to make a whole fandom for her? I felt the same way about people like Claire Wineland and that Talia girl who had cancer. It just felt like so much of the focus was not on any of their deeds but on how they were suffering with a smile on their faces, which is exactly what Andie is trying to portray herself as doing.


She can kick her lower leg up just fine and cross it over her knee. Which muscles are malfunctioning again? Also half her eyebrow is missing. We saw this with Jessica Riley although it looks like Andie might have gotten at hers with the Bic rather than thinning them by pulling like Jessica.

She stands and walks unsupported including standing with her full weight on one leg. Her foot no longer turns dramatically inward when she walks. She’s just turned 28 and gotten verified on TT.

No, she’s not going to commit to the eyebrows. Guess she only likes cancer chic when it means chemo caps and asspats but doesn’t totally change the look of her face. It’s now October and she’s having an unspecified surgery. Please duet her to show your support! She says she’ll post updates here and on Insta. If she did they’re mostly deleted.


This one she’s lipsyncing to that Five Feet Apart song before her surgery.


She needs a blood transfusion. Tia Bee Stokes is the cancer dancer that brought Tricia to Tiktok. She had leukemia and gained a massive following during quarantine. Colleen Ballinger is that woman who did Miranda Sings and recently got giga-cancelled for being a weird groomer. She was the one Jordan Asbee wasted her ill-gotten make-a-wish to meet.


And now Andie is the one the underlings desperately want to get acknowledgment from. How fucking weird.


Pay attention to about 8 seconds into this one. She uses her core to pull her head and shoulders off her pillows. She’s about to tell a whopper of a lie that will make this funny.

Someone declares October 22nd “Andie Day” and tells people to wear purple in her honor. This is because Tia had a “Tia Day” where people wore red in support of her.


Rarebones who sent her this has a rare disease called Fibrous Dysplasia that causes benign tumors to grow in her bones. These tumors expand over time so the bones are weakened and break easily. She’s one I’m pretty sure is telling the truth but is also super annoying about it.


Over on Insta I can see someone reblogging her talking about having new fluid pouches in her spine.


She apparently did a whole bunch of duets with Charli that I can’t find now. Very weird. Check the date here though. November 2020.


Her next post on TT isn’t until December, some seriously cringe engagement-begging.


On instagram she’s been silent since her 1 million followers post in July, and on Twitter we saw people tweeting at her but she’s not talking. But here in the munchies general thread, a new poster comes to talk about how she’s been cancer-baiting and brings a caption from an instagram post that no longer exists. This poster talks about recent claims that she’ll be in hospice and is terminal, they found tumors on her kidney, she’s considering ending it all. There was more evidence that her family doesn’t believe her shit and that’s why they’re “abusive”. They also accuse her of flagrantly skinwalking Tia the cancer girl, writing letters to famous people telling them she’s going to die and dry-begging people to send her gifts. So there was a lot of content on these pages in 2020 that is now totally gone. This explains how she was able to grow a massive following and get attention from the biggest accounts on the platform just doing some silly dances very poorly. Andie faked cancer in the past, and she was doing it again with more sophistication now that she had real cancer patients to mine for information, but she still got caught and deleted most of the evidence.


The post they brought to us makes me so mad I didn’t archive her four years ago and sit on it until now. Imagine the lols. She is getting the hardware removed from her lumbar spine. That part of her spine, the bones themselves have fused so she’s fine to go without, but it’s not going to fix the problem. She’s going to have to have the rest of her hardware out and if she can even get the surgeon to agree to that, it would mean her in a body cast until they can replace it. She also needs some surgery on her neck and when this is done she’ll have to be in a halo.


Unnamed infusion right after Christmas. Def still going for that cancer clout.


This one says she’s back to her infusion day videos but there are no other ones prior to this date. Obviously there were at one point.


She doesn’t say what the infusions are, but they’re not going to fix this infection or make it stop creating new abscesses, just “keep things from getting critical.” There’s something wrong with her liver. IV antibiotics I guess, but then why the conviction that it wouldn’t fix the problem? Even Tricia is still sure they’ll find something for her resistant strains.

Spoiler: false idols

Finally some fucking answers. She tells us she had a cervical spine fusion in 2016 but it failed. She’s been in a brace since 2015. Then she “demonstrates” that without the brace her head just flops forward and she can’t hold it up. I fucking love it, she’s like a marionette and the puppeteer gave her head-string too much slack. If any new friends reading along don’t see that this is totally fucking faked, refer to her dancing in the hospital bed for Tia. The reason I drew people’s attention to that 8 second mark is she peels herself off the pillow and nothing is supporting her head or neck for a moment yet her head doesn’t flop forwards or backwards or anywhere because her muscle strength in her neck is fine to hold it up. In most of the videos she makes of her without the brace, her head is not supported in a way that would prevent it from flopping around if this was really a problem she was having.


Anyway as with the other fusion we have actual proof this happened and the hardware failed. Sure, it could be someone else’s x-ray but let’s give her the benefit of the doubt here. From what I understand hardware failure is pretty common with these things and can be caused by normal wear-and-tear or a fall or plain bad luck, and hers was maybe complicated by the existing fusion hardware, and it looks like that's the point where it failed.


Based on her current rate she was likely posting several times a day every day on multiple platforms during that period of deleted content. This is a good example of her tagging e-celebs in posts about how she’s struggling with [insert issue] and feels like she can’t go on. This makes her fans tag that person over and over and post about how they’re bad people for ignoring poor Andie.


Fever-ish. Another time she looks like she’s holding her head off the pillow.


She’s posted a bunch of duets with this girl named Shannon Winnington and talks to her like they were online besties. Shannon was the one who made the original Andie Day video. Shannon posts a lot and trying to load her account crashes my browser within a few scrolls. All I learned from her most recent vids is she is extremely fucking annoying.


I went over to r/TiktokGossip and oh boy, thank u nice reddit ladies. According to them she’s an attention-seeking clusterfuck who is always running to the ER for “concussions” and other shit then posting it to tiktok for attention (tonsil stones? Really?) She was also demanding surgeries for shit she probably doesn’t need surgery for, lots of accusations of munchausen.


I saw she was also was making a ton of sobriety posts and at a glance I thought she was just a new friend of Bill. The truth is fucking infuriating: she never even enjoyed drinking let alone had a problem with it and her “sobriety date” is when she decided she was going to stop drinking even socially to prove you don’t need alcohol to have fun. Yeah go ask the guy having a seizure from withdrawal how much fun he's having, you failed PE teacher looking mongoloid.


Oh right I should probably explain something. I know we know this but we might have some guests. Hello guests Andie’s hair did not fall out from medication. She shaved it. I don’t need to see her with the razor in her hand to know this. In videos like this one you can see a five o’clock shadow of hair growing back in and it is growing in nice and even all over her head. If her hair fell out you wouldn’t see the stubble by the afternoon because there would not be a shorn hair in the follicle trying to poke through. Not to mention her nice thick eyebrows. Medication like chemo won’t always make your eyebrows fall out but if all of your scalp hair falls out like she’s making it seem then her eyebrows would at least start to thin out.


Whatever this treatment is, she’s looking a bit bloated and weirdly bucktoothed. I was trying to figure out what she reminds me of now and it’s like..some hellish amalgamation of Gypsy Blanchard and Ross Perot. I was also wondering who wrote this horrible “I feel better when I’m dancing” song these girls keep making me listen to and surprise, it’s Meghan Trainer, that person I just figured out exists from Tricia, who Google informs me also wrote the fat girl anthem “all about that bass” but now she’s lost weight (NOT OZEMPIC JUST HEALTHY LIFESTYLE I COULD NEVER STICK TO BEFORE HONEST INJUN).


The fans are constantly annoyed that this Charli girl isn’t licking Andie’s clit every time she posts. Charli (and her sisters for that matter) actually does respond to Andie regularly from what I can tell, bearing in mind that most of the posts from this era were deleted by Andie.


Again that head looks like she’s perfectly capable of supporting it with her muscle alone. Her shoulders are what’s in contact with the pillow, not her head, and while it’s tilted downward it’s nowhere near as slumped as she pretends it goes when she takes her brace off for show.


Pain, fevers. She must have actually been getting a lot of people questioning her because nearly every post has at least one person telling her to ignore the hate or screaming that boolies need to leave poor Andie alone. On the video she did with Colleen Ballinger you can see her saying that she knows this is Tia’s song and she’s going to delete anyone being hateful in the comments, which confirms my suspicion that a lot of people had realized she was skinwalking the cancer girl and started to say some shit about it.


I tried the search function to see if I could find people talking about her and I’m even more confused. My eyes first stop on “Dislocated hip fix at home dog” and then, just below that, I see Topanga from Boy Meets World. What the fuck is this platform?


Searching her username brings up all kinds of fucking weird ass fan pages for her because the tiktok generation is not okay. There’s hundreds of them, many with no content or only one video. Almost all the ones with content were editing and reposting videos she was posting at the time. You know, the ones she deleted?


Like this one from @andies.journey, July 2020, where she says one of her health complaints is a tumor.


Who also lets us know it's not okay to booly andie.


Or this one from the same time, where Andie lists tumors as her first health problem, above the muscular disorder. I wonder why she would delete these.


A lot of these accounts are saying “omg andie get better from ur cancer!!!” Weird, what would make them think she has cancer?


How about this one where her follower makes the claim that every time you duet her dance, Andie's mom donates $20 to a hospital that doesn't exist? There's a Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago. Northwestern Mutual is a financial services conglomerate based in Wisconsin. Even if we chalk this up to the kid getting the hospital name wrong, that's an absurd claim.


Teddyandie has archived this one of Andie saying she had a platelet transfusion.


This one archived a few shots from her now-wiped insta.


Andie.fan archived this cute little beach day. What do you know, it turns out Andie is perfectly capable of bringing full glasses of what I assume is some kind of cocktail and a spoon to her mouth. Won’t her running mommies be proud!


Another one from July 2020, Andie and a child who also appeared in a video during her 1mil subs photo shoot. I think she’s some local dancer that also got famous on Tiktok and that weirds me out.


How about this seizure-inducing edit from @andiesjourney._fp where we can see she was actually “dancing” at one point, standing on one foot, leaning forwards and backwards, moving her arms a lot, in contrast to her laying in bed barely moving these days. Again I must have lost track of which of her muscle groups is dystrophic.

(This account also makes me realize the people on this platform are A LOT YOUNGER than I ever suspected. I assumed teenagers. These are almost all children between the ages of 7 and 12. I actually kind of feel sick to my stomach right now. When I first saw the ages on the poll I was confused about why they didn’t do late teens/early 20s. It’s because primary school is the correct age range. I know this was probably another child who posted this to get more engagement and be boosted by the algo but my god, the implications are so creepy.)


@andiesjourneyqueen posts in August 2020 because Andie has followed them! Other people in the comments say Andie has blocked them.



A lot of these kids go apeshit over any interaction she gives them.


the only content on this one is a warning to repent. I lol’d.


Andie responded to this one in September saying she loves the positive fan pages but hates the negative ones. And now I need to find those.


Oh here they are. Less interesting than expected.


This account pretends to be a fanpage but the only video says that Tia and Andie are both faking cancer. Tia’s not faking, as far as I can tell from a browse. She had leukemia, chemo + radiation, got a bone marrow transplant, and now has graft-vs-host from the transplant. She’s obnoxious, I’d probably want to punch her if she was in the room with me, and she made “cancer dancer” her entire identity but it looks to me like she’s telling the truth.


Why would someone lie about cancer? Because when they do, people who think they're being empathetic to another human go out of their way to do things for them, lavish them with praise, absolve them of their other bad behavior, and possibly give them shitloads of money. But for Andie mostly attention. like an army of fan pages.


Oh god I am so bad at this, this was a duet with a minor and I just wanted to crop the kid out but I lost the audio in the process again. I guess no one’s missing a 15 second clip of some rap song. Remember when her problem was her legs turned inward and her foot was at basically a 90 degree angle? I wonder if her stroller mommies have seen this and are aware of how bad she duped them for two years. Especially Runner Brian who could have seriously injured himself pushing her in a marathon when he hadn’t trained with her in the stroller she just got. Really no wonder she tried to delete this shit.

Guys we have found the cure for muscular dystrophy and it is <30 second bursts of dance to extremely irritating music while staring directing into a camera lens. Only works if your video gets at least 100k views on Tiktok.

Man she sure seems abled to me.

Whining about internet haydurs, her toxic family, and body shaming. Lemme guess, mom said, “stop starving yourself and shaving your head trying to convince strangers you have cancer again.”


Yes I am eternally jealous of an unemployable undatable woman in her 30s with terrible, prematurely aged skin, no hair, and no fashion sense who fakes sick on the Internet and acts like a child to get asspats from 9 year olds, accuses innocent people when she gets caught, and apparently lies about being intellectually disabled to live in a group home with non-verbal autists. My life is so empty comparatively.


I was happier before I knew these were children who had no supervision on this platform and were obsessed with getting acknowledgement from adults they followed. I don’t even want to think about the implications there. Stop letting social media emotionally damage your children.


Again, following every thread has paid off. This one is another fan page run by a child. The content has been removed at Andie’s request “for her safety”. Don’t tell me she was DMing these kids and getting them to take down the proof they’d unwittingly archived of her latest cancer scam by convincing them she was in some kind of danger.


Here we can see her saying it herself in the comments. I never get these comment chains to open. I don’t know if it’s because I’m a browserfag with no account or if it’s just how tiktok is. This also likely answers a question I had: a lot of times people complain that they want to duet her but her duets are off. She acts surprised by this, like it’s just some darn tiktok glitch she has to undo every time. I have suspected from the start that she was trying to minimize the ways people could respond to her because she was getting called out for skinwalking Tia the cancer dancer. This pretty much confirms it for me.


Of course in addition to the fan pages there are endless videos tagging her. I looked through a few dozen and from what timeline I can piece together, around July when she made the cancer videos with Charli and Tia she started to get “hate” which I’m imagining was people saying things were not adding up or pointing out she was skinwalking Tia. October and “Andie Day’ brought another wave of suspicious people which ultimately led her to torch her accounts again. She then hid behind the new spinal surgery, which she actually did get done.


This is the girl with Fibrous dysplasia who gives us an update on Andie's spine situation.


By december she was saying she'd had so many surgeries and drainages that it was too risky to keep going in.


Oh hey Mason! My man’s just singing Roger Miller songs and drawing mythical creatures. Fuckin love this guy, he’s like Napoleon Dynamite irl. Unfortunately Ashley Rose Johnson, Miss Salvation Army Dishwashing Queen, does not have a tiktok that I found. I bet her account would be swell.

Neat, that detour into hashtags took forever, but we finally got almost solid proof that Andie was claiming she had cancer. Not that someone was using her pics to catfish, not that people just assumed because of her shaved head and online proximity to cancer patients. Sure we only got her saying there were tumors, and there's lots of tumors that are not cancerous, but combined with everything else she knew people assumed cancer and did nothing to correct this. Don't worry, there's more. Even I was surprised by how many times I was able to catch Andie Proskus of Portland, Oregon aka andiesjourney faking cancer!

 

[RandallBoggs]

I’d be shocked if no one’s made the comparison before, but I have to get it off my chest.