Hades 2 - now in early access

Hestia is a fat black mammy with vitiligo. A whole new meaning to “burning the coal.”
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Oriental, African, and meso-American mythologies are the exclusive properties of their respective ethnic groups, and you can't touch them without committing the grave sin of cultural appropriation. Greek and Norse mythology? Oh, those are universal myths that belong to everyone, especially black people.
 
I was almost ready to look past fat guy in wheel chair but that about does it for me. Skip.
I never bothered with mods for Hades 1 but the characters weren't fat gay dream daddies or vitiligo ridden hags and didn't necessitate replacements. I can see a character art replacer being one of the first mods to come out and nexus mods swiftly sweeping it up.
 
Hestia is a fat black mammy with vitiligo. A whole new meaning to “burning the coal.”
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I genuinely don't get the beef people have right now for arachnophobia and fantasy wheelchairs. If they're done cool then cool. If not then I don't particularly care for it any more than I would a character with a fantasy colostomy bag or something.

As for the game itself I'm interested but once it leaves EA. I wasn't invited to the cool kids demo club.
Hephaestus is explicitly described in the myths as a cripple, ugly as sin, or both.
 
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What is with the vitiligo push recently? It's a fuck ugly disorder that not even blacks want. Everytime I see that makeup commercial with the vitiligo sheboon """model""" I gag a bit.
I remember the whole vitiligo push started on tumblr, where simply being a fat, black woman wasn't "diverse" enough, and you needed something like vitiligo or stretchmarks or something to "push the boundaries of conventional attractiveness" or whatever retarded shit they said. Figure the DIE activists picked that idea up from them.


Honestly, I can stand the whole "black skin" bit; but H2 Haephaestus and Hestia designs really suck shit. Hestia's is the worst of it; she fucking looks like the fucking Fire Prelate from Elden Ring with that retarded brazier on her head.
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Honestly, if they got rid of the brazier, the vitiligo, and the iron skirt, they'd have a kinda decent design for her (changes could still be made; but the basic template would be there.)
As for Haephaestus; I think (or at least hope) they tried to go for a "eats a ton and lifts; motherfucker is a powerlifter" fat rather than a "drinks too much alcohol and eats too much fried food" fat; kinda like how they had fat-thor in Dad of War: Ragnarok. But the whole "has a prosthetic limb AND a wheelchair" is fucking retarded, since people with prosthetic limbs generally don't use wheelchairs and vice versa. Which is honestly a shame, because first time I saw the pic, I mistook the wheel as a shield he'd made. Which, if it were, would actually fit with his whole "smithing" theme.
The other pet-peeve of mine is what they did to Chaos. It went from a unique "cosmic monster" look which you'd expect from an entity from which all of creation sprang from; to something I'd probably expect in Shin Megami Tensei or something. Very underwhelming, IMO.
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I'll still get it because other characters look good (Artemis, my beloved) but I figure I'll wait for a sale or something.
 
he other pet-peeve of mine is what they did to Chaos. It went from a unique "cosmic monster" look which you'd expect from an entity from which all of creation sprang from; to something I'd probably expect in Shin Megami Tensei or something. Very underwhelming, IMO.
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This is hella gay...
 
Honestly, I can stand the whole "black skin" bit; but H2 Haephaestus and Hestia designs really suck shit. Hestia's is the worst of it; she fucking looks like the fucking Fire Prelate from Elden Ring with that retarded brazier on her head.
You know what is the dumbest defense for Hestia designs?
Well, all you have to do is look on Twitter/ X.

Not only are they desperately trying to defend Hestia's new "diverse" design by saying, "You just hate people with vitiligo who got their chance to be in the spotlight."
This is the usual defense they use for skin disease, but they're also trying to say that Hestia is covered in soot, meaning Hestia is performing blackface.

Never underestimate the stupidity of the terminally online.

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I for one can't wait for someone to make a mod that un-fuglys all of the Olympians!

Only Demeter really managed to dodge the fugly-stick, and to a lesser extent maybe Artemis and Zeus. It's the faces for all of them - like some tumblr intern came along and put those shitty noses on them all.

As for the new ones, Haephaestus could put a shirt on and Apollo could have his skin tone bumped up to Mediterranean and they'd both be passable I guess. Hestia needs to be completely scrapped and redesigned from scratch.

The writing is hit and miss, but the gameplay is good enough that I'd honestly still be having a great time with it if that single aspect of the art could be fixed. Even characters like Eris can stay as is - she's just there to be an annoying cunt that unfairly impedes your progress, after all.

And you just know that it was done maliciously because most of the new character designs are just fine and completely in line with the artstyle of Hades. They kept all the shit ones out of the trailer on purpose so they knew.
 
And you just know that it was done maliciously because most of the new character designs are just fine and completely in line with the artstyle of Hades. They kept all the shit ones out of the trailer on purpose so they knew.
Very true and very telling. Tbh, they probably could have gotten away with putting the uggos in the trailer judging by the average braindead bandwagoner audience member running cover for this at every turn.
 
You know what is the dumbest defense for Hestia designs?
Well, all you have to do is look on Twitter/ X.

Not only are they desperately trying to defend Hestia's new "diverse" design by saying, "You just hate people with vitiligo who got their chance to be in the spotlight."
This is the usual defense they use for skin disease, but they're also trying to say that Hestia is covered in soot, meaning Hestia is performing blackface.

Never underestimate the stupidity of the terminally online.

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Ah, so now not only do these retards not know what soot is like (if anything, the vitiligo could be considered soot marks than the black skin) but now blackface is ok when it's for "diversity purposes"...honestly, these idiots just validate my hypothesis that X reduces IQ by 50 points. Then again, the issue with progs is they're brain dead to begin with, so...


And as I said before, the issue with Hestia isn't even the black skin or the fat grandmother body/character type. Hestia was goddess of the sacrificial fire, of home and the hearth, the place where you'd cook your food and get heat during cold nights i.e. the place of most comfort during a hard and rough day. That would fit with a matronly, grandmother type as I can imagine "grandma" is probably synonymous with "comfort" for a lot of people when they were kids.

On top of which, I like that in her design, the hair+hood combo looks just like a fireplace. That is the kinda "integrate element into character" I'd expect with Hades character design, just like how Aphrodite's hair forms hearts, Zeus's hair is clouds or Poseidon's hair being water.

But that fucking brazier is fucking overkill on the design; it's like if I wanted to hammer in Zeus as God of Thunder, so I had him wearing a crown of thunder; or if to home in on how Aphrodite is Goddess of Love and Sex, I stuck a dildo on her forehead to hammer it in. It'd be unnecessary overkill and ruin the more subtle designs of the character, as the brazier does for Hestia.

If anything, I would've removed the brazier and iron skirt and given some food for her hold on to/have beside her to represent her role as goddess of the hearth with her poker sword to show she's still fighting in this war.
 
On top of which, I like that in her design, the hair+hood combo looks just like a fireplace. That is the kinda "integrate element into character" I'd expect with Hades character design, just like how Aphrodite's hair forms hearts, Zeus's hair is clouds or Poseidon's hair being water.
... Motherfucker, how did I miss those?!
 
If anything, I would've removed the brazier and iron skirt and given some food for her hold on to/have beside her to represent her role as goddess of the hearth with her poker sword to show she's still fighting in this war.
I'm sorry to say that you probably put more thought into the design than whatever tumblr intern Supergiant apparently hired to design her.
 
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