US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Gehenna]

One of my favorite parts of the Old Testament is where Abraham haggles with God over sparing Sodom.

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So the LORD replied, “If I find fifty righteous ones within the city of Sodom, on their account I will spare the whole place.”

Then Abraham answered, “Now that I have ventured to speak to the Lord—though I am but dust and ashes— suppose the fifty righteous ones lack five. Will You destroy the whole city for the lack of five?”

He replied, “If I find forty-five there, I will not destroy it.”

Once again Abraham spoke to the LORD, “Suppose forty are found there?”

He answered, “On account of the forty, I will not do it.”

Then Abraham said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak further. Suppose thirty are found there?”

He replied, “If I find thirty there, I will not do it.”

And Abraham said, “Now that I have ventured to speak to the Lord, suppose twenty are found there?”

He answered, “On account of the twenty, I will not destroy it.”

Finally, Abraham said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak once more. Suppose ten are found there?”

And He answered, “On account of the ten, I will not destroy it.”

When the LORD had finished speaking with Abraham, He departed, and Abraham returned home.

The really kinda amusing thing about that is when you remember God sees into all hearts. He knew there was a grand total of one good person in Sodom. So in that context this becomes a case of a very patient father patting the head of their child and going "Sure, If I can". While the kid smiles as if he actually did something.

 

[AnitaSarsleezian]

>A pack of the old jewish ladies attacked the tree, knocked it over, and broke a lot of the decorations so the condo board had to replace everything.
>the jewish ladies will not tolerate a christmas display with it.
This sounds really fucking funny in a "this sounds to fucking retarded to be true" sense. Imagine seething so hard over a holiday that's been around since the dawn of time that you take it out on a fucking tree of all things.

Dude, they're insane in her building. Management got a tow company to tow anyone who parked illegally in the front of the building. Not really meant as punishment, but more preventative as in, "If the tow truck driver sees your car while making his rounds, he'll tow you. Don't take a chance". Anyway, towings were off the scale. The minute anyone left their car out front, it got towed. After massive pushback from the tenants because it was so bad, management had to investigate. Turns out that this miserable old jew lady who lives in a condo that overlooks the front of the building, sits by her window all day and watches everyone. The minute someone left their car, she'd phone the tow company to radio the driver to tow the car. Management had to do away with the tow company after that.

The laundry room has a monitor with all the security camera feeds. I don't know - so you know who's coming in the back entrance by the laundry room, or who's on the floor, or who's using the elevator - whatever. Anyway, same thing - there was an old jewish lady who just sat there all day in the laundry room and watched the monitor. The minute she saw a tenant break one of the condo's rules - like using a hand truck or dolly in the regular elevator instead of the freight elevator, shit like that - she'd report them to the condo board to get them hit with a fine. Eventually enough tenants got fed up with her that they basically intimidated her to the point that she was too scared to go down to the laundry room, so that's how they solved that.

There was one tenant, this guy Les, another tenant complained about him because they needed to ask him something and they said they knocked on his door and he opened it and in the background they said they saw a Nazi flag on the wall. I told my fiancée that I can't really blame Les. If I lived in your building, I'd probably be at the point that I'd be hanging up a Nazi flag, too.

I'm convinced old jews are just miserable.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Hannukah is not even a real holiday, it was invented to counter Christmas and prevent young jews from feeling left out
Like the kwanza thing

They gotta give better gifts. One Fighting Frankie is better than 8 dreidels.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

upgraded to 30ish year old standards

what people forget is that the 30ish year old standards were the peak for military bullshit, and it all went to shit afterwards. its like how jets made in the 90s are a fuck load better than the f35 or f22

. You wouldn't recognize him without it and neither would I.

exactly, "celebs" even e-celebs are a lot closer to comic book characters than people like to admit, they have their same look in every photo and show they do and always try to capture their good side. it reminds me of how some japanese mag had Taylor swift on the cover and she looked like an entirely different person.

People don't want to admit it but these celebrities truly are unrecognizable most of the time, and they do it for their own protection.

You have no real need to assimilate when you've got massive enclaves of your own people and your own culture within your adopted nation.

exactly, the fact that Nick Fuentes, the son of literal immigrants (i think) is the icon for evil american nationalism should show you how well assimilation has gone.

If you ever watch East of Eden

the movie with rosie o'donnel?

The implosion will occur, but worst case scenario it takes another generation to do so

people really forget how awesome shit was 5 years ago. now even in major cities nothing fucking 24 hours anymore. everywhere is getting very "south african" in terms of security. and 2019 was sort of awful but stuff like airlines or theme parks weren't as crazy as they are now. but there seemed to be more jobs than people unlike now. And housing was easier to come by and the level of quality was a lot higher even for places like the dollar store or fast food.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

like how jets made in the 90s are a fuck load better than the f35 or f22

?? the F-22 was designed in the 1980s and built in the 90s, and the F-35 is one of the only US military success stories of the last 40 years. its one of the most affordable fighter jets on the market right now and the most advanced at the same time. it only seems like its a shitty plane because its one of the first new planes to be fully developed in the internet era, so every crash or test failure gets blasted all over the place.

The F-16 is a fan favorite now but back when it was in testing it had a reputation as a lawn dart. turns out high performance fighter jets are very hard to develop and there are going to be losses along the way. they are some of the most complicated man-made machines ever built.

The new B-21 stealth bomber is shaping up to be a similar sucess story if the USAF keeps up its purchase obligations. its under budget and ahead of schedule, mostly because it is using technologies already tried and tested on the F-35 (engines and stealth coatings mostly).

Say what you want about US procurement but planes are one area where we do all right.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

The B1 & B2 were constantly being talked about being over-budget, will never work, blah blah blah.

Where every other country lies about how great their shit is, the US (and the shit sucking press) hype up every problem and make it sound like we couldn't match the Nigerian Air Force.

Back when Desert Storm happened, it was 'common knowledge' that it would take 3 M1A1's to mission kill a single T-72 or T-80.

 

[pwnest injun]

hype up every problem and make it sound like we couldn't match the Nigerian Air Force.

We need mo money fo dem weapons systems.

 

[Meat Target]

people really forget how awesome shit was 5 years ago. now even in major cities nothing fucking 24 hours anymore. everywhere is getting very "south african" in terms of security. and 2019 was sort of awful but stuff like airlines or theme parks weren't as crazy as they are now. but there seemed to be more jobs than people unlike now. And housing was easier to come by and the level of quality was a lot higher even for places like the dollar store or fast food.

The Trump years had a lot of sound and fury, but until the Pandemic, people were generally satisfied with their lives.

 

[draggs]

what people forget is that the 30ish year old standards were the peak for military bullshit, and it all went to shit afterwards. its like how jets made in the 90s are a fuck load better than the f35 or f22

I mean tanks of late 80s or 90s technology like the ones russia has havent done too well in ukraine either

meanwhile M1A2s have been through lengthy combat service, eating huge IED hits and stuff (like buried 155mm shells and equivalent amount of explosive or even more), and done very well because we spent the money to keep upgrading them frequently

i would not want to go up against an F-22 or an F-35 in anything but another F-22 or F-35 unless non-plane factors were tilted towards me pretty good, like radar coverage and shit. Su-57 is a fine plane but Russia has like one squadron of them and it's still half a step or a step behind the F-35 in a lot of ways, and the US has hundreds and hundreds of F-35s

in wargames and combat simulations they have to significantly handicap the US forces, like our satellites get mostly knocked out so GPS is gone and communications are hampered, PLUS ground radar and AWACs and EWACs get mostly taken out, AND their own EW and radar is unreasonably effective, AND our airbases get blasted to smithereens in the opening hour of the "war," and none of that bad stuff happens to the "enemy force" flying chink and russian planes, and then wow when you stack the deck that hard the "enemy forces" end up winning

this is the case for most US war games, they have to tilt the conditions so heavily against the blue forces to make it useful whether it's army games navy games or air force games or combined games

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

I feel like you are treading into holiday origin waters you really don't want to tread in

Hannukah is not even a real holiday, it was invented to counter Christmas and prevent young jews from feeling left out
Like the kwanza thing

It’s not a high holiday and was basically revived due to Jewish kids feeling left out. I think some Jewish sects don’t even celebrate it due to some issues with the Macabee’s.

Jewish women can be fucking nuts though. As neurotic as Jewish men are portrayed the women can be worse. Although I do know Jewish women who do convert to other religions and basically do it because their mother and aunts are psychotic. One elderly couple I know was Christian Father and Convert Mother with three kids, one of them got schizophrenia and basically went hyper-Jewish as a fuck you Dad. Daughter and other son are fairly normal.

@Catch The Rainbow is better on the Low holiday question. My comments on Jewish women are more my own observations.

 

[Dr J]

the movie with rosie o'donnel?

No, the movie with James Dean

 

[dustbuster]

Interesting, how many Panamanian kiwis are there? ....2?

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How long before Granada 2.0

 

[namelesstacotruck]

The Trump years had a lot of sound and fury, but until the Pandemic, people were generally satisfied with their lives.

The dirty not so secret is alot of people liked the pandemic for all kinds of reasons. From the laptop caste getting their way and getting to work while others lost work, too people actually getting a forced break. The zoomers loved not having to go to school. It was the adult version of snow days for alot of people.

The people who got fucked the most by it seem like the type to most support Trump. Trying to scare lefties about that time they all got stay home and got checks from the government isn't gonna scare anyone, and most people have had covid at this point.

I don't think "remember the pandemic" is going to land well for either Biden or Trump.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

this is the case for most US war games, they have to tilt the conditions so heavily against the blue forces to make it useful whether it's army games navy games or air force games or combined games

I've been blue team before and it gets absolutely stupid for Red Team.

NTC had OP4 basically immortal and able to teleport.

 

[Betonhaus]

I'm disappointed that there isn't some form of war game that's like part strategy like risk and part paintball fight. They all have stupid rules that make it unrealistic.

Although if America gets used to having fantasy handicaps, Russia may encourage that so that America never learned how to fight a real war.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

I'm disappointed that there isn't some form of war game that's like part strategy like risk and part paintball fight. They all have stupid rules that make it unrealistic.

Although if America gets used to having fantasy handicaps, Russia may encourage that so that America never learned how to fight a real war.

It's kind of interesting. You run with all the handicaps, so when you actually go to war, it's like everything is going right for once.

 

[The Gene Genie]

I'm convinced old jews are just miserable.

When I was a kid, the local school did some kind of volunteer drive thing and I - in youthful spirit of giving - decided to help out. Basically on Saturdays we'd go to some warehouse and put some basic food items like flour and eggs and shit into a cardboard box in the morning and then get driven to some old folks' community to drop it off. It was some old Jewish retirement community, no idea how it all got wrapped up with the school or why it was acceptable for children to be assisting some Judaic charity, but that's not really important to this. One time I dropped off a box to this old fuck's door. You were supposed to knock and make sure they took possession of it, so I waited and this old kike who looks about old enough to have dodged Himmler himself grabs the box and slams the door. Whatever. Then as we're all getting in the busses to leave, this dude comes back and starts yelling about how he didn't get any box and no one came and all of this that and the other. Makes such a big fuss that they give him two extra boxes.

Gradually, I began to hate them.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

I think Gaddafi had the right idea.

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Hillary's loss was karmic justice for the loss of that great man

 

[mandatorylurk]

Oh no we lost the guy who looks like typical southern baptist fag, he'll be making out with Mitten at the DNC convention oh nooooo:

 

[draggs]

I've been blue team before and it gets absolutely stupid for Red Team.

NTC had OP4 basically immortal and able to teleport.

We need to close the wizard gap!