Sneedforo & Reactions: The Future of Stickers

[AltisticRight]

2. Copy Discord. Just flat out copy Discord, make every Unicode character a possible reaction, and then allow custom reacts exactly like they do which show up above the generics.

This sounds fun but at best 20 of them would be the most used, and maybe 30 if we include letters like "sdfaonigqer". You'll also see people try to spell words out. Prepared for every post to have some attempt at spelling "nigqer" etc. Discord also allows one user to rate multiple times... Yeah, please no.

I hope one type of reaction gets displayed, "achievement". It should be the special exception to the rule.

 

[Nicholas II of Russia]

I wouldn't recommend the Discord way. There are a lot of people here who'll gladly abuse the fuck out of the system. My suggestion is that you stick to the facebook-like reaction system.

One thing I might do, depending on system style and specific implementation, and bring back the Weeaboo's Post Ratings table, as below. This was something on the profile. You did not receive a score, you instead received a tally of all interactions, given and received.

And this seems lke the nice approach to see the reactions you get. This would be a fine idea, I would implement it, but it's up to you of course.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

I prefer the Xenforo reactions. It really doesn't matter in the end, it's just a preference.

 

[DumbDude43]

1. Keep the XenForo/Facebook style, but have categories. Instead of displaying every react possible on one bar, have something similar to Facebook's that acts as the first-level category. You can click 'like' to like, open the fly-out and click a broad reaction, or further fly-out each category and get a very specific / memetic one, like Semper Fi.

2. Copy Discord. Just flat out copy Discord, make every Unicode character a possible reaction, and then allow custom reacts exactly like they do which show up above the generics.

#1 seems ok, but i question whether it is really worth having multiple categories for reactions when there's just like 20 in total? doesn't seem necessary tbh, they all fit in a single bar just fine.
#2 seems kinda pointless, but as long as the current reactions remain available i wouldn't see it as a problem either.

whatever you do, just make sure that the current stickers, especially islamic content and autistic, don't get lost. those are too funny to give up.

 

[TETRABAX]

I had a bunch of thoughts about this then realized I mostly don't care enough to defend any of them. Here's a vastly reduced list of random thoughts:

Current system works alright, any similar system will probably work alright as well as long as the available reactions line up with the kind of trivial responses posts are likely to evoke (agree, disagree, poster is turbo mega gay, informative, etc). The measure of success here is that people don't make those trivial posts and instead react. Too much friction to reactions and it won't meet that need. Everything else seems secondary.

How about a reaction system where the reactions are only visible to the person who made the post and the person who reacted. You could still base the highlighting system off the information and it might reduce the distorted 'points scoring' aspect of the whole thing. But then, will some people feel a private reaction to the poster is insufficient, and would they then revert to making trivial reaction posts in the thread instead of reacting?

You had issues with the forum restore a while back because the way reactions were implemented was like some massive absurd table with a bajillion rows. Since you're re-implementing, consider serializing reactions as a column on the posts table.

I feel like removing the point attachment from the stickers would serve to better fix the "game-ifying" aspect than trying to hide the interaction. I would rather see the stickers given by others, even if that means the OP has no incentive to not shit-post beyond your standard "we live in a society" amount

 

[GunCar Gary]

I'd also say if a post doesn't have a specific reaction don't show an indication of that, let its absence speak for itself.

For example if a well received post hasn't received a Top Hat, I don't need a Top Hat icon with a zero next to it. I like the Top 3 emoji system because it still does the job without cluttering the forum.

showing all possible reactions and having a 0 for ones that haven't been added is not how discord work, nor any emoji system that i've seen before. just fyi

 

[Mouse Cop]

I like option 1. But I also think it would be cool for individual boards to have unique reactions. For example, the DSP board might have a DSP face sticker, the Ralph board might have a Gunt sticker, etc. These could be submitted by users of that board and be subject to moderator approval.

Edit: Actually, I thought about it more and I would like it even better if those were not board-specific but site-wide. An Ethan Ralph Gunt sticker would mean something is gross. A Bossman Jack Rat sticker could be used when someone is being a rat. These could still be user-submitted and subject to mod approval. You'd have to keep the total number of stickers manageable, and periodically purge old or irrelevant ones, but I think it would add a lot of personality. Maybe even encourage people to check out other boards to see what the popular stickers are referring to if they don't know.

 

[Hillary Clinton's Ass]

1. Keep the XenForo/Facebook style, but have categories. Instead of displaying every react possible on one bar, have something similar to Facebook's that acts as the first-level category. You can click 'like' to like, open the fly-out and click a broad reaction, or further fly-out each category and get a very specific / memetic one, like Semper Fi.

Something similar to the Smilies button on the WYSIWYG editor? That would be nice if you're planning on having plenty of categories with plenty of reactions each, with a search bar to quickly look for whatever reaction you want.

And since you mention them? How many categories do you have in mind? And could these be filled with community emotes?

As for display, while I like Discord's method of showing the reactions, I don't really like it when you have too many reactions on a message/post, it becomes a bit obnoxious to read, maybe only allowing the top 6 reactions to show? Also I'm pretty sure that if you allow the generic emojis, like Discord, then that will only lead to people to try to spell nigger or faggot under each post.

In short: The first approach, but with an added search bar so it's easier to use and navigate and you can display the top 6 reactions under the post, if you want to see them all, you can click on them and get small window like the one that exists right now.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

2. Copy Discord. Just flat out copy Discord, make every Unicode character a possible reaction, and then allow custom reacts exactly like they do which show up above the generics.

Do both, bitch. The use of highlights based on reactions received is fun, and having certain non-unicode reactions that are specific to the forum is a real winner in my opinion. They should be primary and "outrank" the unicode ones.

But the unicode ones are hilarious and get such fun emergent behavior that they should be encouraged. Maybe not tracked on profiles, however, even if the forum specific ones are tracked in some way (which may be gay)

The "pregnant man" emoji would be quite useful as fattrick reaction, for example!

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

showing all possible reactions and having a 0 for ones that haven't been added is not how discord work, nor any emoji system that i've seen before. just fyi

Good. It was a worse case scenario in my mind and I wanted to ensure it was avoided.

 

[Harvey Danger]

If it takes me more than a glance to determine exactly how a post is being received the reactions aren't doing their job... I like the Top 3 emoji system because it still does the job without cluttering the forum.

I agree, and if we're getting more than the current set, the clutter will add up fast. If we're switching to displaying every react, the total set of possible reacts will need to be heavily restricted to avoid a Discord-style nonsensical flooding.

Maybe the current abbreviated display could be expanded from 3 icons to 5, get a little more info without a lot more screen space. Or maybe, since Null is redoing this from scratch, users could get a display option in Settings to switch between abbreviated or full display.

 

[Terror Sandwich]

The current stickers are fine, but the way it looks on discord is better, with the small variety of stickers it would never look as cluttered.
I just think it's missing a laugh/funny sticker. When it's not obviously a joke, just liking isn't enough to convey this feeling.

 

[Soggy Floppa]

Bring back Null's love

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Or maybe, since Null is redoing this from scratch, users could get a display option in Settings to switch between abbreviated or full display.

Best of both worlds.

Also, to narrow down exactly how crazy Jersh is willing to get with the custom emotes, can we get a custom Frog emote just for the Frog thread?

Pic unrelated: Frog.

 

[CoolFool]

Thanks for the history lesson. I've always wondered why only the 3 most given stickers show instead of all of them, now I know.

I personally like the way LipstickAlley sets up their stickers (Here's a thread for an example: https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/rumor-umg-trying-to-force-kendrick-to-apologize.5605174/ ) it reminds me of Discord, without being too over crowded like Discord can sometimes become.

I wouldn't mind copying Discord though, yeah sometimes things can get crowded and look like shit but I don't see that happening often outside of shitposts or users purposely trying to make it look that way.

 

[Probably An Autist]

my opinion:
similar to discord, but with custom icons. full emoji cancer would be hellish, and would lose the fun way reacts are used right now. You know for sure most will be spammed with and reactions.

and because you hate scores with searing passion, the tally table looks like fun.

 

[Vect]

...and having certain non-unicode reactions that are specific to the forum is a real winner in my opinion.

Custom icons get out of hand real fast. Onion Farms have their own set of onion-themed ratings and it's....well...

 

[Sperghetti]

I have no real positive suggestions, but I'm against allowing every Unicode emoji as a rating simply because that's such a huge, ever-expanding list. Plus, instead of the shit-stirrers who cause a bunch of drama by spamming every post with autistic or MATI stickers, you're going to get gimmicky idiots who spam every post with or something retarded like that. (However I do really like the suggestion of having thread-specific ratings based on the threads's subject.)

Also, thank you, you just reminded me of an old phpBB forum I used to visit where the kudos link did nothing but take you to a sound clip of a sheep.

 

[The Feline Solution]

I don't like the Discord idea. Do we want posts to be flooded with reactions that aren't relevant to the post?

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Abomination. I count on Null being more sensible and not implementing something akin to this in the end.

 

[Justtocheck]

I need to know who only put a "like" in a post that was absolutely deserving of a "winner" so I can bombard them with DMs about my insecurity.

Real talk, I'm cool with the new "Discord" like sticker rating as long as there's hierarchy. Informative, winners, and Semper Fi would probably need to be the first the people would see. Also Autistic, MATI and Dumb if there are none of the latter.